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Date: August 2nd, 2013 2:45 PM Author: Magical plaza http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383697/Marijuana-farmer-confesses-keeping-girl-15-sex-slave-foot-metal-box.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23768906) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 2:50 PM Author: Hot casino would you want to fuck her after cleaning out her shit? does she at least get a bucket of water to bathe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23768926) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 2:55 PM Author: Magical plaza They probably hosed her off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23768943) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:31 PM Author: Snowy Greedy Idiot Really Tough Guy After? No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769130) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:03 PM Author: High-end lettuce inspired by this clearly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJDMYhcRMzw
or this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Colleen_Stan |
Date: August 2nd, 2013 2:58 PM Author: violet hilarious base ceo i want to see a pic of the girl. fuck this story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23768953) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 2:58 PM Author: Know-it-all sneaky criminal hospital some guys have all the fun (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23768958) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:13 PM Author: Motley scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769033) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 6:43 PM Author: Stirring menage background story how do actual combat marines treat you when you encounter each other? i mean, back before you moved to russia so you could be somebody. are they just like "lol pencil pusher faggot" or do they keep up some pretense of acting like there's mutual respect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23770079) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:01 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle painfully honest genital piercing public bath What an absolute shithole country. We're done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23768972) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:05 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma man, those doods had some nice hardware (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23768987) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:05 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Provocative Corner Therapy so they had all those firearms but were easily ambushed and taken down by a police raid. as much as survivalists would like to pretend otherwise, that is GENERALLY what happens. if the feds want to hit you, you take the hit. nothing you can really do about it. david koresh tried... and ended up a pile of cinders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23768988) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:10 PM Author: Magical plaza http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2013/summer/antigovernment-floridian-killed-in-st (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769018) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:13 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Provocative Corner Therapy it doesn't help that a lot of survivalists tend toward mental derangement, and have an abbreviated capacity for logical planning and action. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769032) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:13 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma doods die in standoffs with the police somewhat regularly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769034) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:15 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Provocative Corner Therapy a lot of those are local/low-intensity cop actions that run into unexpected trouble.
if a tactical team from the feds goes in there with the expectation that you'll fight back, they go in very heavy and don't give you much of a chance to do much of anything. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:16 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma that doesn't really argue against having guns, a low level cop raid is far more likely to start with
hell, the ruby ridge doods were going at it with the FBI, the Marshalls and special forces doods and they popped one |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:22 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Provocative Corner Therapy the ruby ridge raid didn't even involve helicopter support or a tactical entry team.
guns are fine, but the point is, the notion that civilian firearms will somehow "keep the government in line" is just not evident at all from actual police conduct in america. if they are scared of civilian firepower and are thus constrained in their actions, it really doesn't show. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:25 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma I'm pretty sure they dropped in by chopper man
on an individual level sure, but truly widespread problems potentially free up citizens to start popping sheriffs and stuff, swat doesn't really do much and the FBI can only handle a few incidences at once |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:30 PM Author: Magical plaza Under what circumstances would the feds be involved in multiple simultaneous armed clashes with bearded mountain wackos? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769128) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:33 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Provocative Corner Therapy if it came to that, i suspect they'd just set the forest on fire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769138) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:00 PM Author: Lascivious mad cow disease gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769542) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:40 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma the sort of situation armed mountain wackos are concerned about I'd imagine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769170) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:43 PM Author: Magical plaza Circular reasoning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769180) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:45 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma no, I'm just saying that surely a black helicopter paranoid dood is anticipating some sort of government crackdown that is not limited to him, none of which are probably likely short term but you could probably come up with a number of at least not entirely insane hypos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769195) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:49 PM Author: Magical plaza Those doods are always talking about how we're ALREADY a police state. The first time the feds roll up on them they're going to think it's just their turn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769219) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:50 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma once again, that doesn't mean there aren't other situations being anticipated, they obviously aren't currently beating the government and I don't think any but those truly detached from reality think they are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769226) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:51 PM Author: Magical plaza They're all detached from reality. None of these militia faggots ever says anything that comports with observable reality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769233) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:55 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma I think you'd be surprised, if you spend much time around gun stuff you see the paranoid losers but you also see a large streak of the basic survivalist instinct amongst otherwise normal doods who don't actually take it too seriously, lot of upper middle class doods building shelters and cabins in the woods these days, seems to be the spirit of the age (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769260) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:58 PM Author: Magical plaza I'm taking about the militia men stockpiling guns and living in communes in the woods. Every one of them is delusional. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769277) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:00 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma depending on how you define stockpile, that's a pretty common behavior (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769289) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:01 PM Author: Magical plaza Yes, it's both common and delusional. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769295) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:02 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma nah man, it's good to have guns so you might as well have plenty
and if you confining yourself to militia types only you're missing most of the survivalist doods |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:05 PM Author: Magical plaza Tell me what aspect of "reality" makes it sensible to prepare for total social breakdown. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769313) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:08 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma the fact that over a long enough time frame social breakdown of some sort is pretty much guaranteed, would you want to be in Detroit right now without a gun? police response time in the fucking city, which is filled with poor ass desperate people, is over ten minutes
one decent natural disaster, or any number of other scenarios, is perfectly likely and if not confined to a small enough area can result in not so good stuff, do you think cops were confiscating guns during Katrina because they were doing such a great job maintaining the social order? |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:10 PM Author: Magical plaza Why is it "guaranteed?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769345) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:12 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma because unless you believe that all of the sudden the world became paradise you have to expect all the shit that always happens everywhere to keep happening, we're the most isolated from a lot of risks but over a lifetime or two things start to get pretty hazy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769357) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:17 PM Author: Magical plaza This is just shitty circular reasoning. "I think X is going to happen because X is going to happen." You can't point to any actual facts that would actually lead you to conclude that some dork living in Bowling Green, OH is reasonably likely to witness compete social and political meltdown in his lifetime, or his children's lifetime, or even his grandchildren's lifetime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769381) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:19 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma what part of inevitable in the long term is circular, we have the entirety of human history to look at, what makes you think social breakdown, at least short term, is impossible? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769386) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:22 PM Author: Magical plaza "what part of inevitable in the long term is circular, "
The part where your premise - "it's inevitable" - merely restates your conclusion - "it's inevitable." |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:24 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma but it relies on eons of data, namely that there has never been a period of eternal social order, which is what you're arguing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769410) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:28 PM Author: Magical plaza There have been civilizations that have lasted for thousands of years without any breakdown in the social order.
Furthermore, when there have been collapses there have been factors that caused then. They weren't just spontaneous events.
In order to argue that the USA in the 21st century is headed for any kind of collapse, you have to show that at least some of those factors are present. You haven't done that. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:32 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma outside of the Pax Romana I think you're stretching it, up until very recently the odds of being caught up in some sort of warfare were very high pretty much everywhere, as I said, I'm not talking full on collapse of civilization, but short term breakdowns are not that rare, not fifty years ago the entire European continent, most of asia, and the civilized parts of Africa went through it
and droughts, famines, and plagues were pretty common, we've certainly increased out ability to fight that but the idea that we're perfectly safe is silly and given the consequences it isn't irrational to take even a small chance pretty seriously |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:40 PM Author: Magical plaza So what factors lead you to believe that war or famine or whatever are likely to occur in Ohio in our lifetime? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769463) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:42 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma why would it need to be likely to occur in your lifetime, just you and your kids alone will cover over a century, one cannot forecast at all that far off and the consequences are severe enough that you don't need to require a preponderance of the evidence like some aspie queer to act (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769472) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:51 PM Author: Magical plaza Why would it be likely to occur in the next century? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769503) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:54 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma periods of peace lasting over a century are relatively rare, and once again, you're using "likely" for no reason, why would your house be likely to burn down? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769515) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:37 PM Author: Magical plaza "periods of peace lasting over a century are relatively rare"
This is just sophistry. Was WWII a good time to be a survivalist in Ohio just because that was not a "period of peace?" |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:41 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma oh indeed, but it was a great time to be one in about half the world, how do you not understand that catastrophic events, while not super likely in the near term, are ultimately a part of life that should be planned for, that's why nations bother to have a standing army or you have a fire extinguisher (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769703) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:47 PM Author: Magical plaza I asked about Ohio specifically. What would bring a survivalist have helped you accomplish in Ohio in 1942? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769730) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2013 3:09 PM Author: navy persian Was it even a great time to be one in Germany or France or a Jewish ghetto in Poland? I'm not sure it would have helped there.
South Africa seems like a good country to look at for social breakdown and the effectiveness of being armed. It appears that being well armed has helped some of the whites there. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:25 PM Author: Magical plaza Seems like Ruby Ridge kind of proves the futility of armed resistance against the government. Didn't that guy end up getting both him and his wife shot up by snipers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769102) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:25 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma it got him a million bucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769105) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:28 PM Author: Magical plaza Wikipedia says he got $100k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769118) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:29 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma plus a few million for the kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769122) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:14 PM Author: lavender judgmental rigpig Depends on what you mean by "survivalist". These guys? yea. But the term is typically used in the context of people preparing for when shit hits the fan. In which case the gov't aint going to be spending the time going after some loner in the woods. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769043) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:15 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Provocative Corner Therapy no; if necessary, they'll just pop some drone missiles in there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769049) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:17 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma I think for most survivalists the issue is more likely to be governmental collapse than tyranny, so it isn't gov't agents you'll be shooting, or if you are it won't be well supported ones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769058) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:24 PM Author: Magical plaza A lot of these dopes bray about taking on the IRS or whoever if anyone tries to come get their guns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769099) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:26 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma there's potentially a large distinction between somebody coming to take your guns in particular and a nationwide attempt to take ARE guns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769109) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:29 PM Author: Magical plaza That's not a distinction any of these people seem to be making. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769124) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:41 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma I think some of them are, there's supposedly a whole survivalist community up in Idaho where there are basically no cops and the entire town is just nutty wackjobs and klansman and Nazis will go hide there to avoid warrants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769173) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:42 PM Author: Magical plaza How is that responsive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769179) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:46 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma those doods seem to be thinking about them taking ARE guns and are preparing for it and thinking about them targeting individuals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769198) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:51 PM Author: Magical plaza That's consistent with the notion that they're prepared to fight back if the feds come and bother them about anything. They're not going to pause and say "hmm, is this just an isolated incident or is this part of a broader attempt to disarm the entire population?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769232) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:53 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma of course not, but that doesn't mean they don't recognize the distinction and that it probably affects their outcome, they aren't going to allow their guns to be taken, or so they say, but they are obv not prepared sufficiently to take on the navy seals, but in a situation where it isn't the navy seals but just whatever local rednecks were in their area and got the memo to start the collecting they're probably in decent shape
you seem to be saying they're irrational just because they aren't 100% assured of victory and in fact would probably lose in most instances, that doesn't really make sense |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:00 PM Author: Magical plaza lol, so these guys are just going to pop off the local sheriff and that will be it? They'll just return to their normal lives and not have SWAT teams IMMEDIATELY swarming their ramshackle mountain hideout? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769290) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:03 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma presumably such activities would become common enough that it would be problematic to do that or at least raise significant awareness, it's imposing a cost, once again how does something not make sense just because it isn't certain to work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769305) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:06 PM Author: Magical plaza It's not just "not certain to work," it's pretty much certain to fail. If you kill a cop trying to arrest you or search your home, the government isn't going to just back off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769318) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:10 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma but you killed the cop, that's a victory of sorts and if enough get got you've certainly accomplished something
and once again, the likelihood of this certainly would affect any sort of plans for the kind of nationwide confiscation they're worried about, there is a reason gun control advocates are really hesitant to talk about confiscation and it isn't because they don't want to remove guns, these guys are, day to day, actually affecting how we talk about policy |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:21 PM Author: Magical plaza If you get shot and killed you haven't defended yourself against government tyranny or whatever. Just because you made it marginally more difficult for the government to shoot and kill you doesn't change that fact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769398) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:22 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma sure you have
plus you've not addressed the other point, re the deterrent effect of an unknown number of these doods being out there |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:24 PM Author: Magical plaza "sure you have"
Are you somehow less dead because you killed a cop? If you just surrendered without a fight would you be more dead? |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:25 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma presumably they feel this is worth dying for, and you're still ignoring half of my point, which you should go ahead and address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769413) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:32 PM Author: Magical plaza So this talk about "resisting gov't tyranny" is really just about wanting to die instead if standing trial and facing a prison sentence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769433) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:33 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma still ignoring stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769435) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:38 PM Author: Magical plaza No, I'm evaluating the likely consequences of a certain course of action against its stated purpose. If you say "I'm going to defend against gov't tyranny," and gov't kills you, you've failed to accomplish your stated objective.
You seem to think it's enough to kill a few cops before you go down in a hail of bullets, but when I survey the justifications put forth by 2nd amendment advocates, killing cops just for the sake of killing cops doesn't seem to be a common one. |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:39 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma you've entirely ignored the deterrent effect, which appears to be real
and getting killed imposes a cost on the government, namely having to kill a couple thousand citizens is really bad pr and can potentially jump start backlash |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:41 PM Author: Magical plaza How is the deterrent effect "real?" How are you measuring it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769470) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:45 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma gun control proponents are, in op-eds and in private, very clearly in favor of removing a lot if not all guns from private hands, Feinstein would 100% confiscate AR-15's if she could, but even she won't come out and say that, in part that's a reflection of the uncertainty as to how problematic crazy gun owners would be, having swat teams kill a few thousand crazies would be political suicide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769480) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:50 PM Author: Magical plaza So when members of congress voted down the gun control bill, you think it was because they were worried that cops get shot enforcing the law? Because I don't recall that issue being raised during any of the debates over that legislation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769499) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:55 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma are you literally retarded, I just said it wasn't even presented as legislation because nobody is willing to seriously consider that option and it isn't because Feinstein and her ilk think that taking Ar-15's off the street would be a bad thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769521) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:40 PM Author: Magical plaza Gun control has been extensively debated in congress. And a gun control bill was presented to the Senateaand voted down. Not once have I heard any politician say they oppose gun control because they worry that cops will get killed trying to enforce gun laws. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769695) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:42 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma must truly have reading comp problems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769708) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:50 PM Author: Magical plaza I can read well enough to see that you're provided exactly zero actual statements from politicians indicating that they were somehow "deterred" from supporting gun control laws because they thought gun owners would react violently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769752) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:57 PM Author: Swollen Azure Dilemma my entire point was that the deterrent effect is so significant that the gun control in question isn't brought up at all, which would explain why there wouldn't be any statements about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769795) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 6:06 PM Author: Magical plaza That makes no sense. If it's so significant you wouldn't have ZERO examples of it even being mentioned. Every other argument against gun control laws has been beaten to death. This one has never even been enunciated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769857) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 5:02 PM Author: Cobalt beady-eyed electric furnace I don't think they hold back because they're afraid of a few lunatics. I think they recognize that public opinion largely opposes confiscation and that policy is a politically losing strategy, which has nothing to do with the extremists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769547) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 3:45 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Provocative Corner Therapy that used to be the reputation of some areas around sandpoint, but the locals didn't like the newcomers all that much, and the feds have set up shop across the countryside. and the border with BC is under all kinds of surveillance, which has cut down on some of the backwoods hoodrat smuggling shit that used to be popular. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769192) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2013 4:24 PM Author: Citrine comical pervert chapel Anyone else get a little hard reading that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#23769409) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:20 AM Author: Arrogant Big Abode did your buddies get out of prison yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2327027&forum_id=2Vannesa#49345597) |