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At this point if Brown killer IS Mustapha entire State of R.I. must resign
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:53 AM Author: rusted electric office chad Like down to the lowest public employee. Even the trash collectors. Now I will admit it's a longshot that the internet solved the crime of the century in two days and the FBI, Providence PD, and an Ivy League University could not. I'm keeping an open mind here. But in the event that it is Mustapha and the internet was right and every level of government was wrong the entire government should resign. Trump should resign in shame. They should all resign. Patel, Colonel Beaner, the Jewish convert named CHRISTina. All of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49518606) |
Date: December 18th, 2025 12:44 PM Author: rusted electric office chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519369) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: 180 cowardly rehab dingle berry Trash man fail to earn his pay today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519372) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: Rebellious Shrine ok but if its not mustapha every right wing kook on twitter needs to retire forever, deal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519371) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: rusted electric office chad It's honestly a fair trade.
Poso, Alex Jones in deep rn |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: Rebellious Shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519374) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 9:42 PM Author: Rebellious Shrine laura loomer time to quit life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521123) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 9:44 PM Author: rusted electric office chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521125) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 12:49 PM Author: passionate brindle base wagecucks let me correct you
no matter what happens, the entire Brown and Providence leadership needs to be put out to pasture and replaced by all competent white males |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 12:55 PM Author: rusted electric office chad I put my trust in a Jew named CHRISTina imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519406) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:14 PM Author: passionate brindle base wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49522446) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 12:56 PM Author: violent mood point It's really obviously that guy lol
If it wasn't him he'd definitely appear in public and be like yo guys it wasn't me wtf please no crazy person try to kill me or something. It would be in his own best interest to do so and he'd be frankly insane not to
Him hiding from the public is equivalent to an admission of guilt |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: narrow-minded hilarious fanboi menage And the media would be champing at the bit to exonerate them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519432) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Cr if I were falsely accused of a heinous crime I would do a Twitter livestream ASAP. Idgi with this guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519434) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw cr dude thats its fundemental of criminal defense to advise your client to explain themselves to the police and public. wtf are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519496) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Yeah you don't have to testify but a simple hey guys I'm in Beirut and I didn't kill anybody would go a long way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519501) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw he's a fucking student during exam time. chances are he was studying or hanging with friends, not traveling. do you think a couple friends vouching for him would satisfy a legion of retards accussing brown, the police, and the feds of being in a massive conspiracy to cover it up? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519531) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Yeah I would take it to heart. If a couple of his buddies put out a statement I'd put considerable stock in it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519549) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:49 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw then you're even more credulous than i thought. a random person vouching would put the issue to bed, but not the complete lack of evidence? have you considered that false alibis are extremely common with every fucking crime? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519575) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: Razzle clear gaming laptop water buffalo Exams were cancelled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520828) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: narrow-minded hilarious fanboi menage It's been several days now if they aren't a suspect then what's going on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519565) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Gunneratttt says I'm too emotional to speculate so may as well brush it aside (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519585) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:58 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw well you clearly are, you're still going on about it days later.
if you can state the reason behind your speculations that would be different, and it wouldn't matter if you were right or wrong in the end. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:59 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Have you not heard all the reasons?
Alex Jones: "The Muslim guy looks exactly like the suspect. He's a dead ringer."
GAIT THEORY et al. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw wdym? the only people that have identified as a suspect is a bunch of internet sleuths. the police have said he's not. obviously anyone in that situation would be advised to lie low, only hatp things trying to prove a negative to a mob of retards would be a good idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519604) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:06 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw if it turns out to be him it would be the equivalent of winning the lottery. yeah, you were right, but not because of any logical reasoning.
the only thing that ties him to the shooter is his body type. being a palestinan activist or nonbinary doesn't give any motive to shooting up a fucking engineering class.
why the fuck are these people watching fucking gait analysis? its a double homicide shooting that happens every fucking day. they're seeking titilation because they're bored losers engaging it the lamest possible surrogate activity. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Sometimes you get beat on the river. A bad beat is still an L dog. And what an L this would be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519431) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw not at all. if you go all-in preflop with 7-2 you're a retard, win or lose. the fact it's a non-zero chance he's the killer doesn't make the accusations any more reasonable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519487) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM Author: rusted electric office chad You sound like Sam Harris talking about Covid. "But what if the virus WAS 100x deadlier, then let the restrictions on individual liberty would have made sense, and it was impossible to know that it wasn't at the time!"
The truth is an absolute defense. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:35 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw not even close. you're making accusations based on objectively retarded logic. if someone gives you 2:1 odds on something with a 10% chance of happening, you're a retard whether you win or lose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519517) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Yeah the world just runs on hyperrationality all the time. Everyone plays the odds perfectly.
There's an old saying in baseball. If you offered every free agent a contract for what you thought they were worth you'd be outbid by two teams every time. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw so you're conceding you're irrational and emotional. i agree! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519560) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: rusted electric office chad I'm saying people aren't robots and the guy who discovered the structure of DNA did so in a dream. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519566) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:38 PM Author: violent mood point That was actually the cr stance to take on covid at the time though. Lol
Fuck you are dumb man |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Sup Sam (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519544) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw i could spend hours trying but i doubt there is any possible way i could explain the simple concept that whether a decision about an uncertain outcome is reasonable is not impacted at all by the outcome. in his mind there is no difference so long as the decision was proven correct in the end. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519557) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:49 PM Author: violent mood point He is legit dumb
The board should host a debate between him and "trump team six" tp. The two most inexplicably intellectually overconfident 105 IQ guys left on this board. It would be so 180. I volunteer as moderator |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:50 PM Author: rusted electric office chad You're mad because I never pump your tires (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519582) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:49 PM Author: rusted electric office chad "Never give me the odds" - Han Solo
Have you never read Hume? Descartes and the Rationalists are dun here |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:50 PM Author: violent mood point Also this reminds me of that 18000000000 spaceporn blackjack thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519581) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:02 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw mfcr. the hume comment above is ljl. dunning kruger confidence. checking out on that one.
hume: "lol fuck reason faggot if you're right that must mean your calculus was right, thats how it fucking works!" |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:10 PM Author: rusted electric office chad Right that's why everyone at the time of Hume bought into Descartes and the rationalists. That's why you just have to Trust the Experts. This is Sam Harris midwit take. "We have experts, experts in their fields! They know so much! There is a rational move to make!"
You're literally defending Covid tyranny post hoc and calling me Dunning Krueger? LJL at you |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:14 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw im not at all and was against covid restrictions after two weeks to flatten the curve. right here megapoasting on xo about it. the fact that you can't square that with what im saying here (never said anything about covid, that was your example) is just a window into how low iq you are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519649) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:16 PM Author: rusted electric office chad right but it's a metaphor because you're saying that there's some rational explanation for everything that's right all the time just like the Trust The Experts folks.
we don't make an arrest and charge without evidence, but going on what we do have it's not totally irrational. We don't know all the evidence in the case and we might be wrong but we're going off of what we do have. It's not irrational at all but your head keeps exploding about it. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw that's not what im saying at all. i thought you were just ranting and not thinking but it's becoming clear you don't have the capacity to comprehend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519687) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM Author: narrow-minded hilarious fanboi menage When? Maybe in March 2020 but not long after that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519569) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM Author: rusted electric office chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519588) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 9:47 PM Author: vibrant kink-friendly ape international law enforcement agency As long as "at the time" is the first couple of weeks, maybe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521138) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:38 PM Author: aqua immigrant theatre gait don't lie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519528) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM Author: rusted electric office chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519541) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:44 PM Author: Aromatic university macaca they should resign even if it isn't mufasa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519552) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM Author: narrow-minded hilarious fanboi menage Why is gunner so worked up over this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519586) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:52 PM Author: violent mood point He has A Lot Riding On This (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519591) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:54 PM Author: rusted electric office chad I made an emotional, irrational speculation without justification. 😡😡
I could still potentially be Right. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:58 PM Author: narrow-minded hilarious fanboi menage Have they actually said this person is not a suspect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519612) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:00 PM Author: rusted electric office chad no lol
they admonished reporters for speculating but never once said THIS IS NOT THE GUY |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:56 PM Author: Fluffy impertinent filthpig 1. this is odd. it would be irresponsible for the police to NOT clear an innocent victim of an internet witch hunt if they did have reasonable proof he was not involved. 2. it’s funny that gunnerattt thinks it’s more likely that would-be internet sleuths randomly picked the correct name out of a hat with seven billion entries than their collective effort being more incisive than his own personal analysis. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:46 PM Author: narrow-minded hilarious fanboi menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520792) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:47 PM Author: violent mood point cr i really think gunner may end up taking a Massive L on this one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520794) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:50 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520802) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:56 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw it's not "odd" at all unless you're a moron and it's your first day on earth.
police always say stuff like "he's not a suspect at this time" because it's impossible to prove a negative. other evidence could surface that does implicate him. any thinking person who watched the clip where the AG chastized conspiracy theorists could tell he was saying as much as he could that "he's not the fucking guy."
instead these retards, mostly adult men, took that nondenial as confirmation. even here on a law bort where people should know better. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:59 PM Author: Fluffy impertinent filthpig it’s crazy, man. there are even some poasters who think conclusively clearing a suspect by verifying a valid alibi is “proving a negative.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520833) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 8:03 PM Author: narrow-minded hilarious fanboi menage Did this happen? No one ever provided a link that they were definitely not a suspect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520843) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 8:05 PM Author: Excitant cyan box office therapy Why haven't you provided a link proving you were definitely not a suspect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520847) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 8:12 PM Author: Fluffy impertinent filthpig it did not. and, per gunneratttt, it could not, since it is the same thing as proving a negative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520881) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 8:51 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw unless he was so far away from RI that it would he physically impossible for him to be the shooter, what is the likelihood he had an alibi that was "conclusive?"
people lie. people misremember things. people orchestrate convincing alibis ahead of time. it's very unlikely anyone has an alibi at any given time that is "conclusive." |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 9:39 PM Author: Fluffy impertinent filthpig if it’s effectively impossible (with le resources, no less) to ever determine a person’s approximate location at a given point in time, it’s a wonder that any murders get solved! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521110) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 9:47 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw you are having a really hard time understanding the difference between proving something did happen and proving something did not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521139) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 9:54 PM Author: Fluffy impertinent filthpig that sounds like quite the ballsy prosecution strategy. “sure, you’ve proven you were at [non-murder location] at the time the crime occurred, but you haven’t proven that you were NOT also at the crime scene! and you can’t prove a negative!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521159) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 9:58 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw oh ok i thought pointing out how you mixing these things up would cause you to understand the flaw but i see now you are actually too stupid to understand the difference at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521175) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:07 PM Author: Fluffy impertinent filthpig it puts the defendant in a hell of a bind. on the flip side, it’s impossible for the prosecutors to prove that the accused didn’t NOT do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521216) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:16 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw probably why the standard is "beyond a *reasonable* doubt", huh?
let's say your cell phone data puts you at the scene of the crime. that's pretty strong evidence you were there unless you have a good explanation on why your phone was.
now let's say your cell phone says you were at home. that's not very compelling evidence you weren't there, is it?
let's say i want to prove black swans exist. all i need to do is find one black swan. but what if i want to prove they don't exist? that's impossible without omnipotence.
do you understand the difference now? |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:23 PM Author: Fluffy impertinent filthpig i forgot that the only way to verify location is with cell phone ping data. dammit! you may, however, also want to consider that i have, from my first appearance itt, indicated the proof of non-involvement needed to be “reasonable” or even “conclusive,” and not simply circumstantial contraindications like your cherry-picked example. in any case, the good news is that you’ll never be able to prove i did NOT absolutely destroy you in this subthread. |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:04 PM Author: Yellow deer antler Pics of Ella Cook are making him super horny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519630) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:11 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw hatp has beem adhd ranting about this for days and im stunned hes still at it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519645) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:14 PM Author: Excitant cyan box office therapy it's time to revoke his addy Rx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49519650) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:41 PM Author: Smoky school knife What is the max IQ to follow this story? I only see it poaster about here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520780) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:56 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520821) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:52 PM Author: outnumbered ratface They’re saying he killed self (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520808) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:53 PM Author: rusted electric office chad It's over (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49520810) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:17 PM Author: Black bonkers ticket booth Mufasa should still be deported. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521275) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:24 PM Author: rusted electric office chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521318) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:59 AM Author: passionate brindle base wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521734) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 11:47 PM Author: Dead affirmative action library I assume the Farm Animals have shifted gears, and are now tweeting theories about how Mustapha was in some kind of conspiracy with the Portagee dude? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521542) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 11:59 PM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw ive been sperging at these retards for days. no other libs have joined me except ohnoes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521557) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:42 AM Author: Dead affirmative action library You're doing great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521603) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: rusted electric office chad American Cattle Goy here. Shifted gears to sperging about BP and GJR. A tradition unlike any other imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521560) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:19 AM Author: Rebellious Shrine they are unrepentant and have moved on to "we should deport mustapha anyway"! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521582) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:22 AM Author: domesticated misunderstood brunch bbw this most bizarre thing about this is how they're suddenly very concerned by anti-israel muslim extremism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521587) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:37 AM Author: rusted electric office chad Can you explain why this guy is in our country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521598) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:46 AM Author: Dead affirmative action library *They
They add the queer Muslim perspective to the patina of American culture. |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:56 AM Author: rusted electric office chad I didn't vote for this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49522388) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 4:17 AM Author: Dun keepsake machete They aren’t wrong on that one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49521757) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:22 AM Author: Obsidian soul-stirring crackhouse death wish cons are next level retards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811604&forum_id=2Vannesa#49522010) |