~~~ Shortporch Murder Trial Closing Arguments ~~~
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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:47 AM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
State: *points at exhibits* lol, they killers
Garcia: Luis Rivera is a violent druglord gang king. Charlie Adelson bought drugs from someone, probably Luis Rivera. Garcia was ancillary to everything. This was either some Latin Kings murder or Charlie solicited Rivera to do it. All the circumstantial evidence only points to Garcia going along with the ride.
Katie: The only evidence at all that directly ties Katie to the murder is the testimony of Luis Rivera, a man who had every reason to lie to reduce his sentence, and slide all this killing onto the hands of two non-Latin Kings. In hundreds of texts and calls Katie never even obliquely refers to a killing. All her cash was obviously from being a bottle girl in the clubs.
State: lol.
Jury: Guilty, Guilty.
State: *never charges the Adelsons*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956560) |
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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:54 AM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
Guilty verdicts on all counts, especially for Katie, who decides to flip on Charlie and somehow inculpates Wendi. "Oh yeah the sister knew, she was at some of our meetings."
However, Katie testified yesterday the opposite, so Wendi's impressive lawyer (John Lauro I think his name is), would likely have a field day impeaching her "new" testimony. Basically, Katie's testimony buttfucked her chances of being able to flip.
Im sad to say, I think Wendi skates.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956581) |
Date: October 10th, 2019 9:11 AM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
Think jury will start deliberating late afternoon. They will be sequestered tonight, so I imagine they will want to get home by Friday night. My prediction: verdict Friday around 7PM
There are a SHIT TON of exhibits that will go back with them to examine
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956631) |
Date: October 10th, 2019 9:47 AM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
lolololol Mom Donna emailing Wendi weeks before the murder:
"You just need to put on a good act. You can be a good actor when you want. Ive seen you in action."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956759) |
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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:53 AM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
to act like she has found Jesus and will be converting the kids to Christianity. This, to please the WOC family court judge who attends church, and to antagonize Shortporch.
Mom Donna also suggests posting pics on facebook of the boys dressed up "like Hitler Youth".
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956785)
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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:10 AM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
youtube poster, example of how a typical juror thinks during closing argument:
Justin Parrish
​what if she just ripped a fart
Tim Sullivan
​Justin she would stop to sniff it
A. B.D.
​He would say objection
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956873)
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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:45 AM Author: translucent aromatic stead
here we goooo!
defense closing.
get in here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957330) |
Date: October 10th, 2019 11:51 AM Author: translucent aromatic stead
what do you think of his salt and pepper outfit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcJfh8ntaXI
gray to embody doubts and gray areas?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957355) |
Date: October 10th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
Garcia's lawyer's closing sucked.
State had a shit ton of evidence, but was monotone and inept at using her slide show, so everyone was sleepy. He could have scored points being snappy and forceful.
He started with a great metaphor: State is trying to sell you this house and Im the inspector, Ill point out all the problems they are covering up.
He never mentioned the analogy again. He should have married himself to that shit. Analogized one theme to the house's foundation (State's zeal to get to Adelsons makes everything suspect), another to the plumbing (Can't trust testimony of flipper, he's full of crap), another to the roof (gang kingpin was supposed to be shooter, why'd it switch for no reason?), etc. Five or six house themes and you're done.
Draw a fucking shitty house on the white board, line by line, point by point.
Close: Ladies and gentleman, on a death penalty case, the government wants you to pay the full price for this house, and there are just too many questions, too many shaky floors, too many doors theyve never opened, kept locked from you. You would not buy this house IRL, don't do it with a man's life.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957715) |
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Date: October 10th, 2019 2:41 PM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
Her lawyer is 20 pts smarter than Garcia's lawyer. Looks like a trustworthy fed or G-man, ken doll hair, strong voice, etc.
But he has one verbal punch and he's delivered it over and over for going on two hours now. Wearying as fuck.
Especially the redundancies with Garcia's defense
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958268) |
Date: October 10th, 2019 1:43 PM Author: Turquoise french chef
not reading all of this.
so the thugs are going to prison and the Adelsons got away with it?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957985) |
Date: October 10th, 2019 3:46 PM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
Few minutes more on JIs, then deliberations.
The jewish juror will try to angle to be foreperson, but the other 11 wont allow it. This will take 15 minutes.
They'll do straw vote, there will be a few NGs just because people like attention, usually women
The men will bear down, but everyone will be kind of excited to go check out the hotel, so no verdict tonight
At least two of the jurors will fuck in the jacuzzi
By tomorrow the men will bear down harder because the FSU game is Saturday, so verdict by dinner
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958498) |
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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:14 PM Author: Saffron irradiated stage
Yeah you’re right. But if they are discrediting Rivera that boldly then both prosecutions fall apart and its NG for both. The whole killing becomes a Rivera mission and the Charlie - Katie - Garcia link is dead.
Hard to believe they got there in 3 hours, but you never know.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38960366)
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