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~~~ Shortporch Murder Trial Closing Arguments ~~~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcJfh8ntaXI
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
State: *points at exhibits* lol, they killers Garcia: Lui...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
what should i be rooting for here if i want wendy adelson to...
twisted bat-shit-crazy fortuitous meteor crackhouse
  10/10/19
Guilty verdicts on all counts, especially for Katie, who dec...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
god DAMN america, north korean style justice NOW
twisted bat-shit-crazy fortuitous meteor crackhouse
  10/10/19
I think best case scenario is you arrest Wendi, hold her wit...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
unfortunately I think we don't want wendi to fry because of ...
crimson soul-stirring pervert private investor
  10/10/19
Think jury will start deliberating late afternoon. They will...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
if the FSU faculty doesn't form a mob and lynch the Adelsons...
contagious alcoholic point stock car
  10/10/19
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Fishy vigorous psychic dog poop
  10/10/19
garcia fries. kaddie walks
Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency
  10/10/19
i keep seeing people spell it "kaddie" on youtube ...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
it is very clearly spelled in the text messages displayed fo...
Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency
  10/10/19
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sepia office
  10/10/19
so these latin kings did it sua sponte rather than for $100K...
balding light multi-billionaire
  10/10/19
lolololol Mom Donna emailing Wendi weeks before the murder: ...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
to act good at the upcoming family court hearing?
balding light multi-billionaire
  10/10/19
to act like she has found Jesus and will be converting the k...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
that's crazy. because the adelsons weren't religious like sh...
balding light multi-billionaire
  10/10/19
youtube poster, example of how a typical juror thinks during...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
the prosecutor or the female hitter?
balding light multi-billionaire
  10/10/19
presume that is what they are thinking about the ASA as she'...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
"Justin" Joyce Jr
internet-worthy love of her life
  10/10/19
...
Razzle impressive set
  10/10/19
shortporch was always talking about criminal law cases and s...
balding light multi-billionaire
  10/10/19
he also posted about fsu
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
he said it was a ttt, think he envisioned himself at chi or ...
balding light multi-billionaire
  10/10/19
link to any of this?
Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency
  10/10/19
...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
talk shit get hit
tats
  08/28/25
I haven't followed any details of the case, but isn't law pr...
emerald location pozpig
  10/10/19
Shortporch was one of us
internet-worthy love of her life
  10/10/19
real talk: case only has traction because murderous ex-wife ...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
prosecutor doing Donna's reaction to the planted message fro...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
here we goooo! defense closing. get in here.
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
he went with metaphor that proseuction is selling a house an...
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sepia office
  10/10/19
what do you think of his salt and pepper outfit? https://...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
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sepia office
  10/10/19
yeah, i think that's why he went that way.
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
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sepia office
  10/10/19
ofs. but i do respect his skills and efforts.
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
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sepia office
  10/10/19
he's a persian dandy.
Saffron irradiated stage
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sepia office
  10/10/19
Garcia's lawyer's closing sucked. State had a shit ton of...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
cr analysis. it was a terrific metaphor and one that would h...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
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Indigo Concupiscible Shrine
  10/10/19
This kind of folksy shit is not my style at all, but I reall...
Aggressive gaping
  10/10/19
if I'm a prole juror, I acquit on this
topaz persian
  10/10/19
Kaddie's lawyer is kind of boring. Too bad, because she migh...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
...
sepia office
  10/10/19
you have to add variety of emotional tone. or everyone zones...
translucent aromatic stead
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...
sepia office
  10/10/19
Her lawyer is 20 pts smarter than Garcia's lawyer. Looks lik...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
not reading all of this. so the thugs are going to prison...
Turquoise french chef
  10/10/19
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sepia office
  10/10/19
KADY WILL NOT BE CONVICTED
Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency
  10/10/19
...
sepia office
  10/10/19
(Retard(
Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency
  10/10/19
i say she will. i'm just not hearing a good reasonable do...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
...
sepia office
  10/10/19
He read before closings. Like all JIs, they were 120 pages l...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
that last sentence literally sums up all of law and yet this...
balding light multi-billionaire
  10/10/19
would Kavanaugh have to recuse himself from such hearings gi...
Turquoise french chef
  10/10/19
(Retard)
Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency
  10/10/19
Juror just interrupted Defense closing to ask judge if they ...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
State rebuttal: "Do murderers have a certain race? A ce...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
@ three minutes to go in rebuttal. here we goooo!
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
prosecutor: "don't nail Kaddie just for conspiracy or s...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
... and ... back to jury instructions
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
Few minutes more on JIs, then deliberations. The jewish j...
Saffron irradiated stage
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...
sepia office
  10/10/19
this guy knows Florida juries
contagious alcoholic point stock car
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topaz persian
  10/10/19
Eh, fsu-clemson this year's going to be a bigger bloodbath t...
Aggressive gaping
  10/10/19
Yeah FSU fans hate their team right now
curious meetinghouse rigpig
  10/10/19
North-florida dudes have nothing in common with, and don't l...
Aggressive gaping
  10/10/19
LOL imagine spending three weeks on jury and learning right ...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
you get to start writing "if i decided..."
balding light multi-billionaire
  10/10/19
worse, judge ordered alternate he cant do shit or talk to an...
Saffron irradiated stage
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...
sepia office
  10/10/19
look at defense counsel palling around with prosecutor.
translucent aromatic stead
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...
sepia office
  10/10/19
yeah yeah yeah
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
mebbe it's just a jury question.
translucent aromatic stead
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sepia office
  10/10/19
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sepia office
  10/10/19
Q1: mebbe they bought Sigfredo's theory.
translucent aromatic stead
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...
sepia office
  10/10/19
What did they ask?
bright hyperactive karate national security agency
  10/10/19
something like if you get in a car intending to participate ...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
Yikes.
bright hyperactive karate national security agency
  10/10/19
what is wrong with these people
shivering hall scourge upon the earth
  10/10/19
yeah it has to be troubling to the State. but there are lots...
translucent aromatic stead
  10/10/19
This question isn’t bad for the state it’s just ...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19
I don't litigate criminal cases so take my reply with a grai...
bright hyperactive karate national security agency
  10/10/19
Yeah you’re right. But if they are discrediting Rivera...
Saffron irradiated stage
  10/10/19


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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:44 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcJfh8ntaXI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956554)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:47 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

State: *points at exhibits* lol, they killers

Garcia: Luis Rivera is a violent druglord gang king. Charlie Adelson bought drugs from someone, probably Luis Rivera. Garcia was ancillary to everything. This was either some Latin Kings murder or Charlie solicited Rivera to do it. All the circumstantial evidence only points to Garcia going along with the ride.

Katie: The only evidence at all that directly ties Katie to the murder is the testimony of Luis Rivera, a man who had every reason to lie to reduce his sentence, and slide all this killing onto the hands of two non-Latin Kings. In hundreds of texts and calls Katie never even obliquely refers to a killing. All her cash was obviously from being a bottle girl in the clubs.

State: lol.

Jury: Guilty, Guilty.

State: *never charges the Adelsons*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956560)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:51 AM
Author: twisted bat-shit-crazy fortuitous meteor crackhouse

what should i be rooting for here if i want wendy adelson to fry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956569)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:54 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

Guilty verdicts on all counts, especially for Katie, who decides to flip on Charlie and somehow inculpates Wendi. "Oh yeah the sister knew, she was at some of our meetings."

However, Katie testified yesterday the opposite, so Wendi's impressive lawyer (John Lauro I think his name is), would likely have a field day impeaching her "new" testimony. Basically, Katie's testimony buttfucked her chances of being able to flip.

Im sad to say, I think Wendi skates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956581)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:55 AM
Author: twisted bat-shit-crazy fortuitous meteor crackhouse

god DAMN america, north korean style justice NOW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956583)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:08 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

I think best case scenario is you arrest Wendi, hold her without bail for a couple of years until the trial, and probably lose it.

But she loses custody of the kids, loses her bar license, and the reputation follows her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956617)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:33 PM
Author: crimson soul-stirring pervert private investor

unfortunately I think we don't want wendi to fry because of the children. instead, we want DP for Charlie. either way the kids are fucked mentally as they will know there uncle hired a hitman to kill they're dad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958449)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:11 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

Think jury will start deliberating late afternoon. They will be sequestered tonight, so I imagine they will want to get home by Friday night. My prediction: verdict Friday around 7PM

There are a SHIT TON of exhibits that will go back with them to examine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956631)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:12 AM
Author: contagious alcoholic point stock car

if the FSU faculty doesn't form a mob and lynch the Adelsons than ljl at the "U"SA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956635)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 12:16 PM
Author: Fishy vigorous psychic dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957476)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:13 AM
Author: Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency

garcia fries. kaddie walks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956637)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:18 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

i keep seeing people spell it "kaddie" on youtube and figured I was just seeing proles prole.

Does this bish really spell her name Kaddie? Lol, death penalty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956656)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:00 AM
Author: Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency

it is very clearly spelled in the text messages displayed for all to see in the courtroom. Please be more available and attentive in future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956821)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:55 AM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957371)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:28 AM
Author: balding light multi-billionaire

so these latin kings did it sua sponte rather than for $100K? charlie adelson didn't pay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956684)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:47 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

lolololol Mom Donna emailing Wendi weeks before the murder:

"You just need to put on a good act. You can be a good actor when you want. Ive seen you in action."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956759)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:49 AM
Author: balding light multi-billionaire

to act good at the upcoming family court hearing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956772)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:53 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

to act like she has found Jesus and will be converting the kids to Christianity. This, to please the WOC family court judge who attends church, and to antagonize Shortporch.

Mom Donna also suggests posting pics on facebook of the boys dressed up "like Hitler Youth".



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956785)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:53 AM
Author: balding light multi-billionaire

that's crazy. because the adelsons weren't religious like shortporch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956787)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:10 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

youtube poster, example of how a typical juror thinks during closing argument:

Justin Parrish

​what if she just ripped a fart

Tim Sullivan

​Justin she would stop to sniff it

A. B.D.

​He would say objection



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956873)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:10 AM
Author: balding light multi-billionaire

the prosecutor or the female hitter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956877)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:12 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

presume that is what they are thinking about the ASA as she's delivering her argument in a death penalty murder 1 case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956883)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:19 AM
Author: internet-worthy love of her life

"Justin" Joyce Jr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956918)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:26 AM
Author: Razzle impressive set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956953)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:27 AM
Author: balding light multi-billionaire

shortporch was always talking about criminal law cases and said he was a prof and was jewish and hated his ex wife. then he stopped posting because he was killed dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956963)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:28 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

he also posted about fsu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956970)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:29 AM
Author: balding light multi-billionaire

he said it was a ttt, think he envisioned himself at chi or penn or DUke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956975)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:04 AM
Author: Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency

link to any of this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957151)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:15 AM
Author: translucent aromatic stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957197)



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Date: August 28th, 2025 4:09 AM
Author: tats

talk shit get hit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#49218566)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:29 AM
Author: emerald location pozpig

I haven't followed any details of the case, but isn't law professors dying generally a good thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956972)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:33 AM
Author: internet-worthy love of her life

Shortporch was one of us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38956992)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:34 AM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

real talk: case only has traction because murderous ex-wife is hot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957002)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:13 AM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

prosecutor doing Donna's reaction to the planted message from undercover cop. nice argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957192)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:45 AM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

here we goooo!

defense closing.

get in here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957330)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:46 AM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

he went with metaphor that proseuction is selling a house and as defense attorney he will be the inspector pointing out the problems with the house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957336)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:57 AM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957378)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

what do you think of his salt and pepper outfit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcJfh8ntaXI

gray to embody doubts and gray areas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957355)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:58 AM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957385)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:59 AM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

yeah, i think that's why he went that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957389)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 12:02 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957401)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 12:06 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

ofs. but i do respect his skills and efforts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957422)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 12:11 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957448)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 12:03 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

he's a persian dandy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957403)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 12:15 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957473)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 12:58 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

Garcia's lawyer's closing sucked.

State had a shit ton of evidence, but was monotone and inept at using her slide show, so everyone was sleepy. He could have scored points being snappy and forceful.

He started with a great metaphor: State is trying to sell you this house and Im the inspector, Ill point out all the problems they are covering up.

He never mentioned the analogy again. He should have married himself to that shit. Analogized one theme to the house's foundation (State's zeal to get to Adelsons makes everything suspect), another to the plumbing (Can't trust testimony of flipper, he's full of crap), another to the roof (gang kingpin was supposed to be shooter, why'd it switch for no reason?), etc. Five or six house themes and you're done.

Draw a fucking shitty house on the white board, line by line, point by point.

Close: Ladies and gentleman, on a death penalty case, the government wants you to pay the full price for this house, and there are just too many questions, too many shaky floors, too many doors theyve never opened, kept locked from you. You would not buy this house IRL, don't do it with a man's life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957715)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:08 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

cr analysis. it was a terrific metaphor and one that would have emotional resonance for anyone who has even considered buying a house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957780)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:51 PM
Author: Indigo Concupiscible Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958522)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:33 PM
Author: Aggressive gaping

This kind of folksy shit is not my style at all, but I really enjoyed it. gj

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959553)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:55 PM
Author: topaz persian

if I'm a prole juror, I acquit on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959915)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:39 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

Kaddie's lawyer is kind of boring. Too bad, because she might benefit from a good theory and dynamic presentation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957952)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:42 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957975)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:46 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

you have to add variety of emotional tone. or everyone zones out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957999)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:46 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958006)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 2:41 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

Her lawyer is 20 pts smarter than Garcia's lawyer. Looks like a trustworthy fed or G-man, ken doll hair, strong voice, etc.

But he has one verbal punch and he's delivered it over and over for going on two hours now. Wearying as fuck.

Especially the redundancies with Garcia's defense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958268)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:43 PM
Author: Turquoise french chef

not reading all of this.

so the thugs are going to prison and the Adelsons got away with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38957985)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:47 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958016)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:51 PM
Author: Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency

KADY WILL NOT BE CONVICTED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958052)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:55 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958081)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:51 PM
Author: Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency

(Retard(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959637)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:57 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

i say she will.

i'm just not hearing a good reasonable doubt theory from either defendant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958096)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:58 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958104)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 1:59 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

He read before closings. Like all JIs, they were 120 pages long and the jury stopped listening within the span of 30 seconds.

Parkinson's voice: "If you find Guilty... for Mr. Garcia... I mean Ms. Magbuena... of the Lesser number 3.... here.... on page 7, is it?... page 6..... you move on to the interrogatory.... here.... on page 9....."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958114)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:30 PM
Author: balding light multi-billionaire

that last sentence literally sums up all of law and yet this is the most exciting the law ever gets. maybe a 20 min scotus hearing on anal sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958437)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 5:50 PM
Author: Turquoise french chef

would Kavanaugh have to recuse himself from such hearings given his propensities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959167)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:53 PM
Author: Dashing gunner international law enforcement agency

(Retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959647)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:06 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

Juror just interrupted Defense closing to ask judge if they will be out in time for Clemson-FSU game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958363)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:28 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

State rebuttal: "Do murderers have a certain race? A certain sex?" Image on screen behind her morphs from ghetto black guy to jewish woman holding dreidel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958430)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:36 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

@ three minutes to go in rebuttal. here we goooo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958463)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:41 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

prosecutor: "don't nail Kaddie just for conspiracy or solicitation."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958477)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:45 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

... and ... back to jury instructions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958492)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:46 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

Few minutes more on JIs, then deliberations.

The jewish juror will try to angle to be foreperson, but the other 11 wont allow it. This will take 15 minutes.

They'll do straw vote, there will be a few NGs just because people like attention, usually women

The men will bear down, but everyone will be kind of excited to go check out the hotel, so no verdict tonight

At least two of the jurors will fuck in the jacuzzi

By tomorrow the men will bear down harder because the FSU game is Saturday, so verdict by dinner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958498)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 4:07 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958600)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 5:48 PM
Author: contagious alcoholic point stock car

this guy knows Florida juries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959160)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:57 PM
Author: topaz persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959932)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:38 PM
Author: Aggressive gaping

Eh, fsu-clemson this year's going to be a bigger bloodbath than an Adelson family garage.

Five years ago, though, you'd have an all-female jury (like with Trayvon) b/c all the men would get themselves for-caused.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959579)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:59 PM
Author: curious meetinghouse rigpig

Yeah FSU fans hate their team right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959685)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:17 PM
Author: Aggressive gaping

North-florida dudes have nothing in common with, and don't like, people from south florida, so when jameis was still there it'd have been "okay so some Miami jew broad killed broad killed her jew lawyer husband? weird I thought it was mostly the spics shooting each other, whadaya know" **goes back to closely watching jimbo fisher's inane press conference and nodding along like he's saying profound shit**

Now they'd rather stare at that skanky flip and fantasize about how simultaneously prudish/bitchy and psychotically filthy that jappy little murderess wendi Adelson would be in bed than watch willie taggart trot out a team that's going to lose 6 games in the fucking ACC, including to places like "Syracuse".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959761)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:53 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

LOL imagine spending three weeks on jury and learning right now you've been an alternate and dont get to deliberate or vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958537)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:55 PM
Author: balding light multi-billionaire

you get to start writing "if i decided..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958542)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

worse, judge ordered alternate he cant do shit or talk to anyone, because he might have to be an alternate AGAIN on death phase

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958554)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 4:04 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958586)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 4:05 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

look at defense counsel palling around with prosecutor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38958590)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:18 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959483)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:20 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

yeah yeah yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959489)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:21 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

mebbe it's just a jury question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959498)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:21 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959500)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:22 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959505)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:23 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

Q1: mebbe they bought Sigfredo's theory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959507)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:23 PM
Author: sepia office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959510)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:53 PM
Author: bright hyperactive karate national security agency

What did they ask?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959649)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:57 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

something like if you get in a car intending to participate in a robbery but the other person secretly intends to commit murder, is the first person guilty of participating in the murder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959664)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:58 PM
Author: bright hyperactive karate national security agency

Yikes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959679)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 7:59 PM
Author: shivering hall scourge upon the earth

what is wrong with these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959687)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 8:35 PM
Author: translucent aromatic stead

yeah it has to be troubling to the State. but there are lots of times when conscientious jurors are hashing it out on the way to a conviction and they ask questions to clarify the theory of one party or the other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38959839)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:16 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

This question isn’t bad for the state it’s just retarded. It was Rivera who said HE was the guy who thought he was going to a robbery. Garcia never testified and no one ever claimed Garcia thought he was going to a robbery.

So they were in essence clarifying if Rivera, who’s not on trial, could be a principal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38960029)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 9:24 PM
Author: bright hyperactive karate national security agency

I don't litigate criminal cases so take my reply with a grain of salt. What I think the concern is, is that Garcia's entire theory is that Rivera was the one who was the triggerman and this was related to some Latin Kings stuff. Rivera is only blaming Garcia because he got a good deal in exchange for saying that. Rivera is the boss and told Garcia to come with him, and Garcia thought they were doing a robbery, not a murder.

Obviously there's issues with this, but it's a jury we're talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38960063)



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Date: October 10th, 2019 10:14 PM
Author: Saffron irradiated stage

Yeah you’re right. But if they are discrediting Rivera that boldly then both prosecutions fall apart and its NG for both. The whole killing becomes a Rivera mission and the Charlie - Katie - Garcia link is dead.

Hard to believe they got there in 3 hours, but you never know.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360547&forum_id=2Vannesa#38960366)