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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: bistre irradiated location toilet seat

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: seedy orchestra pit volcanic crater

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: seedy orchestra pit volcanic crater

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: razzle costumed milk

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Slimy translucent hissy fit hominid

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: razzle costumed milk

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Slimy translucent hissy fit hominid

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: razzle costumed milk

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: silver disgusting bbw old irish cottage

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Adventurous saffron area travel guidebook

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: purple corner gunner

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Tantric passionate forum

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: silver disgusting bbw old irish cottage

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Green floppy rigor multi-billionaire

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: ultramarine boyish kitchen sound barrier

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: lemon pit rigpig

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49105022)