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I will have approx five hours free this Sunday night for a cheatmoing adventure
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:22 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Fly into a large US city at about 7pm Sunday. Will be at hotel by 8pm. I have set a curfew for myself of 2am since I have to be somewhere at 9am. Max drink limit of five.
Lets gameplan this.
Right now I plan on donwloading old version of Tinder on Friday that allows for gps spoofing. Set location to Large US City and then leave over the weekend. Start on way from airport to hotel.
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:42 PM Author: underhanded national will be 180000 when you don't get a single match and drink alone in your shitty hotel room while posting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692918) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:44 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Naw. This city is always easy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692938) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:45 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces That said, it is possible I will just be tired from traveling and will only meet up with a chick who is fairly hot.
Banging 6.5's is easy. If you bump up requirement to 7, then fast-paced hookups are not guranteed, and if you bump up to 7.5, you it's hard to accomplish in 5 hours. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:49 PM Author: underhanded national you will end up striking out since you're a full of shit liar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692992) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:51 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Totally possbile.
If I do strike out I am more likely to post about it than if I succeed. When I succeed I often have no desire to post about it. When I fail, I usually find it amusing and worth posting about. Also, I tend to have more time if I fail -- for obvious reasons. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:54 PM Author: underhanded national twist: you never succeed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693033) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:57 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces WHy are you talking about Twist now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693069) |
Date: November 15th, 2017 12:24 PM Author: Honey-headed Gaping why not killself you fucking degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692783) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:24 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces How about I suck your hot mancock? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692787) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:30 PM Author: Honey-headed Gaping (degenerate that will go to hell) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692824) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:40 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Victim-less crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692905) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:46 PM Author: Stimulating persian address No, that’s even worse than cheating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692957) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:49 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces I'm morally justified because he insulted me over the internet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692987) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:33 PM Author: claret twinkling uncleanness sneaky criminal harsh, but fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692850) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:41 PM Author: peach bateful property kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692914) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:46 PM Author: Stimulating persian address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692959) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:48 PM Author: lake abode liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692981) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:50 PM Author: underhanded national CR, this guy should kill himself. Awful poster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692998) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:41 PM Author: lascivious glassy brethren ching chong bing bong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692908) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:41 PM Author: underhanded national whatever you say you weird chink virgin! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692915) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:42 PM Author: saffron big brunch don't do this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692916) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:43 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces WTF?
XOXO used to be a solidly PRO-cheatmoing place.
Why the hate? |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:46 PM Author: saffron big brunch you just don't seem like the type of person who could pull this off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692956) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:47 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces That's absurd. I am almost certainly one of the (if not the) best-looking guys on here and probably one of the most successful for my age. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692962) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:48 PM Author: saffron big brunch you aren't even a pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692977) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:50 PM Author: underhanded national no you aren't, you're just one of (if not the) most delusional. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693003) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:51 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Please explain your basis for this conclusion quotemo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693013) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:00 PM Author: underhanded national you not being handsome or successful but having a long posting career filled with mental illness and delusions of grandeur. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693096) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:01 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces any or all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693105) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:59 PM Author: Aromatic Affirmative Action Are you the insecure dork who constantly brags about his "amazing" 250K in house gig? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693084) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:01 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Have not bragged about that in a while.
Did not get any bump up this past year, and I've been at about that pay level for about three years now.
That seemed like a good amount of money a while back, but now I realize that $250k is POOR as fuck and I need to double that. BUT, it's going to be REALLY REALLY REALLY hard to double that. Most jobs I'm looking at that I could realistically get PAY LESS than that. I need to make some kind of big move here. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:01 PM Author: underhanded national lol you'll never double it. Only downhill from here for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693112) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:03 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces I'm starting to realize that.
It's totally possbile that the next job I get will pay $200k.
For the first time in forever, I'm actually considering going back to a law firm. Which I'm pretty poorly positioned for since I was in and out from my old firm really quickly. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:04 PM Author: Aromatic Affirmative Action JFC that is sad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693141) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:06 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces I mean. Sort of. My life is still pretty sweet overall. Just need more money if I want to live a upper-middle class life in Big-City-USA.
I think I'm much less of a badass than I did 2 years ago. I just got lucky with an in-house gig that I was able to leverage particularly well into a few large raises fairly quikly.
Good news is that I'm actually an extremly valuable person to have around. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:07 PM Author: underhanded national post reeks of pathetic insecurity. I bet you have very few to no friends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693179) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:09 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Not the case good sir. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693185) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:11 PM Author: underhanded national yea sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693202) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:12 PM Author: Aromatic Affirmative Action "Good news is that I'm actually an extremly valuable person to have around."
The insecurity just drips off this. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:02 PM Author: Aromatic Affirmative Action Maybe the lesson is to not spend your time bragging to strangers on the internet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693126) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:03 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces I've posted maybe 8-10 days in the past 9 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693133) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:05 PM Author: Aromatic Affirmative Action With a raging insecurity that sticks out even on XO. do you think you have some sort of need for validation (cheating is often that, too)? Not trying to be a dick, something to legit think about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693160) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces I can't tell my IRL bros about cheatmoing.
Guys NEEEEEEED to brag about their sexual conquests.
That's where XOXO comes in. Not rocket science.
The only things in life I can't really brag about are my 8 inch cock and my cheatmoing. So I poast about them here. Not too complicated. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:11 PM Author: underhanded national "Guys NEEEEEEED to brag about their sexual conquests."
no, only insecure faggot like you need to. Quit pretending you have irl bros, it's obvious you're a weird autistic loner |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:13 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces It's obvious, yet you can't explain your reasoning behind that conclusion. So you're just dumb? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693220) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: underhanded national the reasoning is pretty simple, people who aren't insecure as fuck don't need to brag to others to get validation. Looks like you're insecure, a liar and stupid as fuck. No wonder your irl is so awesome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693231) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:19 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces I don't disagree that your little algorithm has some validity some of the time, but I've already offered a better explanation about why I brag about the few things I brag about here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693250) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:19 PM Author: underhanded national you're an insecure liar and an idiot. LJL how how braindead stupid your post is. JFC, you sound like one of the worst people to be around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693257) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:23 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Been fun, but I have a meeting. hugs and kisses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693285) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:16 PM Author: Aromatic Affirmative Action Pretty sure you're the only one reading this who doesn't get it. Bragging about yourself on the internet make it clear you're an insecure beta. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693236) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:19 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces See above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693252) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:22 PM Author: Aromatic Affirmative Action Your LSAT score had to be like 153. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693276) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:23 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Low to mid 170s, suck my cock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693290) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 3:34 PM Author: Aromatic Affirmative Action LOL you'd have a better job if so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694201) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:47 PM Author: Stimulating persian address XO has never been pro-cheatmo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692965) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:47 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces LIES (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34692967) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:22 PM Author: Stimulating persian address Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693282) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:55 PM Author: Vigorous coffee pot ticket booth Sounds like you'll be on backpage soon. Enjoy that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693046) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:56 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Would much rather jack off than pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693054) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:56 PM Author: underhanded national (serial john liar) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693060) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:56 PM Author: Vigorous coffee pot ticket booth Really? I don't think that's true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693066) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:04 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Seriously. Have never paid for sex. Does not really appeal to me. For me it's much more about the ego boost and acomplishment rather than just sex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693147) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:07 PM Author: underhanded national (serial john) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693173) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:23 PM Author: Vigorous coffee pot ticket booth I'm giving you ~5% chance of success on your plan. Enjoy your ego boost sitting in that hotel alone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693288) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:35 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces What's your number if I pay $20 for tinder boost and start matching with chicks tonight and set up plans in advance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694701) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: Vigorous coffee pot ticket booth ~33.33%
Though, would you consider that "paying?" |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 5:50 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Not really.
It's the same as paying for drinks. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 12:57 PM Author: walnut multi-colored chapel shitlib pretty weak flame game ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693070) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Only flame here is my flaming cock jamming into your tight asshole fqaggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693201) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:14 PM Author: Unhinged Vivacious Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#35928627) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:22 PM Author: Citrine Trailer Park don't cheat man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693277) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:41 PM Author: Vermilion Thriller Kitchen Man the board was pretty unrelentingly harsh on this guy. I'm interested in hearing about the plan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693411) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:29 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces The only real question is whether I should pay for Tinder plus now, set my location to the correct city, and start swiping for matches now.
If I do that, I can set up daes in advance. It's by far the better options...but less challenging. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 5:09 PM Author: Black Turdskin You don't need Tinder plus to spoof your location.
First off, you don't need an app anymore to use Tinder. You can swipe on Tinder.com
You can spoof your browser location fairly easily:
https://www.labnol.org/internet/geo-location/27878/
Now, tinder plus does get you unlimited swipes and extra boosts. But as a cheatmo, perhaps it would be best if there was less of a paper trail? Your wife seeing your credit card statement with a charge for Tinder isn't going to go over well |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 5:13 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces No shit! Will try out.
Tinder app is paid through a burner google account using a prepaid visa with no name on it.
I use photos of guys who LOOK like me, but are not me. Linked to a fake facebook and fake name.
So negligible chance of getting busted there. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:53 PM Author: chocolate up-to-no-good stead legal warrant The new version of tinder doesn't allow GPS spoofing? How do you get the old one? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34693506) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:28 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces https://tinder.en.uptodown.com/android/download/67469
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:26 PM Author: beta arrogant juggernaut Thread did NOT go like OP expected (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694615) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces This is exactly how I expected it go to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694639) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:29 PM Author: beta arrogant juggernaut You expected to get blown the fuck out? Well, good prediction I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694655) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:32 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Yeah. Same people attack me whenever I post. I've sort of cultivated a heel persona over the years since people react to MAF about me posting about getting laid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694691) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:41 PM Author: beta arrogant juggernaut Look fag, if you're an alpha stud the only move is to pick up a chick traveling on biz at the hotel bar and fuck her in your room. If you're really trying to use tinder and shit you're probably ugly + a loser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694734) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces I'm not particularly alpha.
Anyhow, I agree that your way is much more 180.
BUT, Tinder just makes it so damn easy. |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 5:12 PM Author: primrose genital piercing LOL @ wanting to pick up some frumpy 42 year old shrew consultant also staying in the same cookie cutter business hotel. I know we joke about hot 19 year olds being groupies for lawyers, but I don't think they'll be milling around the hotel bar hoping to take down their favorite litigation all-stars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34695018) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34695036) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: Floppy Free-loading Public Bath Party Of The First Part This is just a sad thread. If not flame, don't do it brother. I cannot say whether you will regret it, but I can say that it will reduce you as a person. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694747) |
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Date: November 15th, 2017 4:44 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces No harm no foul. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#34694752) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 9:42 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces JFC.
I actually can't recall what ever happened on this trip.
I think I should offically call it an end to my cheatmo adventure days if I can't even remember them a few months later. |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: Hairraiser Sadistic Keepsake Machete cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#35928483) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:10 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces I deleted all the emails in my account related to this, so I don't even have a starting point to bring the memory back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#35928609) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:11 PM Author: turquoise round eye range you should kill yourself for being a big enough fag to use the word "cheatmo" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#35928615) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:23 PM Author: Irate Tantric Digit Ratio Antidepressant Drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#35928663) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:13 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces OK now I remember. I made poast about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#35928621) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:14 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802887&mc=22&forum_id=2#34732686 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#35928626) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:29 PM Author: Unhinged Vivacious Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#35928694) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:19 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces Back in the day I would look back at cheatmo adventures and be overcome with an amazing sense of accomplishment and bliss. I get no joy thinking back on this one.
I think my cheatmo days should end, but not it's just a hard habit to break. |
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Date: June 24th, 2020 7:16 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#40489413) |
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Date: September 12th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: huckleberries Update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#49261158) |
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Date: September 15th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Jane Goodall of Asian Pussy OP Here.
I posted a link to the thread describing the night above: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802887&mc=22&forum_id=2#34732686
Longer term, I officially quit cheatmoing 2-3 years ago in large part because of the efforts of the brave and honorable poasters ITT, and others like them in similar threads like this I made in the years subsequent.
That all said, I 1000000000% reject the allegations that I used to cheatmo out of any insecurity. It was because I'm a man and had easya ccess to sex and could get away with it. Cheatmoing is just the default. Proud that I've gained the courage to stop myself. |
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Date: September 15th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: huckleberries Get back in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3798134&forum_id=2Vannesa#49273083) |