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How bad is a 500 blood sugar reading?
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:12 PM Author: chocolate church building I spent a day in the ER after chemo when they drew blood and found that my glucose was at 492. ER put me on a few drugs and suspects the diabetic numbers are caused by one of the chemo medications.
They put me on Metformin and Januvia and it seems to be helping. I'm down to 200's now.
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:14 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal I didn't think it was actually possible to push into the 400s even with severe diabetes. I think most of the Eric Garner types chill in the low 300s. Doesn't DKA usually pwn you when you start to go over 350? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669412) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:16 PM Author: chocolate church building I don't know. My piss smells like fried chicken and I have to piss all the time. How bad is DKA? The ER doc talked to me about it, but didn't make a big deal since I didn't feel bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669428) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:17 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal Dude yeah, be thankful if you can keep it under 250. My understanding of DKA is that it can fuck you up really fast. A healthy fasting range is 90+105 and spiking maybe up to 160s if you eat a bunch of cake and drink wine. I don't have a1c charts memorized but at 200 after 12 hours without food you are well into uncontrolled diabetes territory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669433) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:18 PM Author: chocolate church building Going to do some research now. Doc didn't try and scare me or anything, so I kind of just went along with it.
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:43 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse In my experience, if you are running 500-600+ for any period of time (a week or more) it's a trip to the ICU until they can get your blood sugar under control with IV insulin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671176) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:32 PM Author: Slippery base With DKA, your blood turns to acid. You will be thirsty as hell and puke up all the water you drink, thus, causing more dehydration.
Only way to fix it is an IV with insulin and saline. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:18 PM Author: Stimulating State People Who Are Hurt That’s really bad, man. Keep taking the meds and get it under control. You’re lucky you didn’t go in DKA or HHS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669449) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:19 PM Author: chocolate church building I've been about 250's when I wake up for the past few days. At night, it's been in the 300's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669456) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:22 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal Yeah that's Eric Garner territory. Any idea how long you've been like this?
Don't fall for snake oil like glipizide. All that does is jack up your insulin levels. The real issue is not the sugar but the insulin response it provokes. It sounds like maybe your liver is cranking out a ton of sugar. Think of the sugar as a proxy for measuring the amount of insulin your pancreas is producing. THAT is what you need to control.
Diabetes can be temporary. A lot of pregnant chicks get it while they're pregnant but then it goes away. Don't know how long you'll be on these meds but you don't ever want to see 300s |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:25 PM Author: chocolate church building I need to google Eric Garner.
It's been in the 300's for like 4 months and it's gradually going upward as chemo goes on. I have 4 more treatments, and the doctors think the dexomethosone I take for a few days after chemo is causing it. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:28 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal I think you can probably go ~1 year at those levels before it causes genuine long term insulin resistance. I don't know. The good news though is that insulin resistance is reversible. Insulin is like any other substance in that you build up tolerance over time, and it takes more and more of it to do it's job. Reduce the insulin and your tolerance drops. Right now your body is being bombarded with heavy doses of insulin, and if that keeps up you will become insulin resistant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669524) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:29 PM Author: chocolate church building TYTYTYTYTYT
Is this Jag? |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:30 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal Nope. Jag doesn't actually get this shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669535) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:40 PM Author: Violet casino What do you mean he doesn't get this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669607) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:44 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal I mean I recently saw him tell a poaster that anyone over 8.0 a1c can never cure diabetes and will need insulin forever. I took my a1c from 9.9 6 years ago to 6.1 today. It took me a year to get to pre-diabetic levels. No offense to Jag but most doctors are clueless because they've never actually had a diabetic patient who had THE DISCIPLINE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669627) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:47 PM Author: diverse zippy shrine genital piercing 180 how much weight did you lose? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669640) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:50 PM Author: galvanic puppy chad I only lost about 20lb and I beatit. was never really "fat" in the sense that people didn't look at me and think "there's a fat guy." I had been athletic when I was younger though and lost a ton of muscle over the years. A lot of it was about putting dat muscle back on and not eating before bed. Not smoking weed helped a ton and I'm convinced that weed-induced inertia + munchies was a major factor in my situation. Imagine a decade of couch lock and eating chips and salsa. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669661) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:52 PM Author: chocolate church building I'm 190 and 5'11. I've done more weed in the past 4 months than in my entire life cumulative up to this point.
I'll cut that out asap. Munchies haven't been a good thing for me lately.
I thought keeping weight on during chemo would be a good thing, apparently not. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:13 PM Author: galvanic puppy chad For me it wasn't about how much I weighed per sec but whether I was gaining or losing it. If I only lost only a pound in any given month, my glucose levels would be down significantly that same month. But also, your body consumes sugar just maintaining muscle so adding any amount of muscle helps. Your biggest muscles are in your thighs so you get a bigger ROI by targeting those. It also matters where you are fat. Abdominal fat is worse than fat in any other region. It means you have fat around your liver and other organs, which is what gets you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669775) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:13 PM Author: Stimulating State People Who Are Hurt Dude, it has nothing to do with diet or working out. It’s just the decadron you’re on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669779) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:17 PM Author: galvanic puppy chad It never helps to be fat or in a state of weight gain, and exercise always helps. Just because his diabetes is being a caused by a drug doesn't mean be can't do things to bring glucose down. Anything you do that consumes glucose is helpful.
Though to be honest I was never as fucked as him. I think my highest a1c was 7.2. I only broke 300 when I was sick. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:19 PM Author: Stimulating State People Who Are Hurt LOL he’s on high dose decadron. His hyperglycemia is 100% a result of that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669810) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:22 PM Author: galvanic puppy chad Because it's fucking up his liver, which as the other poaster said is making excess glucose. There's nothing he can do about that but he can burn up some of that glucose. Even taking a walk makes a difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669821) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:25 PM Author: Tripping lake theater You were barely diabetic. I mean good job getting it under control, but you were basically a pre-diabetic who just needed to get off the couch. My dad's a1c was 14 point something when he was diagnosed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669840) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:59 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal Right on brother it's even easier with CGM technology now. I used the Dexcom g5 for a while. It was expensive and the sensors kept falling off, but I could watch what my organs were doing in real time. There are like 8 different types of CGM you can get now, including one that's implanted under your skin so you don't have to explain it to women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669717) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:03 PM Author: indigo tattoo becky DXCM up bigly since the rona hit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669733) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:14 PM Author: galvanic puppy chad I did this all with just a glucometer. CGMs look 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669789) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:33 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse If he's not a T1 and his hyperglycemia is only being caused by the chemo he doesn't need to get a CGM, total overkill. Just go to Walmart and get the cheapo Relion meter and strips. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671113) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:54 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal At peak fat I was 6'1 250. Now 6'1 205-215. Whenever my bg was high I would do some exercise and it would drop immediately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669681) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:27 PM Author: chocolate church building Garner had been arrested by the NYPD more than 30 times since 1980 on charges such as assault, resisting arrest, and grand larceny.[15][16] According to an article in The New York Times many of these arrests had been for allegedly selling unlicensed cigarettes.[17] In 2007, he filed a handwritten complaint[18] in federal court accusing a police officer of conducting a cavity search of him on the street, "digging his fingers in my rectum in the middle of the street" while people passed by.[11] Garner had, according to The New York Times, "recently ... told lawyers at Legal Aid that he intended to take all the cases against him to trial".[11] At the time of the incident, he was out on bail for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession, and false impersonation.[19] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669516) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:31 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal He didn't die from a "chokehold," he died because he was a big fat diabetic and his heart gave out when it was put under moderate stress. Blacks everywhere have uncontrolled diabetes causing them to die early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669551) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:04 PM Author: indigo tattoo becky Something like 55% of latinos over 40 are diabetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669741) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:28 PM Author: Stimulating State People Who Are Hurt That’s not great but Is more of a thing that would cause long term issues. It sounds like this should be temporary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669519) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:24 PM Author: mint razzle-dazzle principal's office sandwich what dose metformin did they put u on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669485) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:26 PM Author: chocolate church building I don't know... I didn't know there were different kinds. It's supposed to get the pancreas to produce more insulin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669501) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:32 PM Author: chocolate church building just checked 500mg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669560) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:33 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal Max dose is like 4x that but maybe it interacts with other meds you're taking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669563) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:28 PM Author: Tripping lake theater It made my dad shit uncontrollably. There's a reason they don't give you too much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669850) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 11:14 PM Author: chocolate church building They warned me about that, but it hasn't done enough to combat the constipation from chemotherapy or my horrendous hemorrhoids.
Every painless shit is a blessing. Haven't had a painless shit in 4 months.
My last shit was like a shit volcano erupting out of the watery bowl, surrounded by bloody lava. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:44 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse That's a small dose, many people are on 2500mg a day with no side effects.
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:30 PM Author: Slippery base As a Type 1 diabetic, condolences.
Insulin is $300 a vial, and that’s a bitch.
Also welcome to #Medicare4All and #insulin4all |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:31 PM Author: chocolate church building Don't you have insurance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669546) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:34 PM Author: Slippery base I do. I get mine in Canada though so it’s nbd for me.
Not everyone gets to be a well insured lawyer though. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:36 PM Author: chocolate church building Ahhh... good point. I'm an oilfield schlep that has really good insurance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669583) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:39 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669597) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:39 PM Author: appetizing fear-inspiring sneaky criminal If he goes on insulin for any length of time won't that fuck up his pancreas? I think you want to avoid taking it except as a last resort. This isn't an issue for t1 obviously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669601) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:31 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse No. Just the opposite actually. Although taking injectable insulin while the pancreas is still producing 'normal' levels of insulin can pose dosing challenges and usually needs to be done under medical supervision. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671102) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:19 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse The fuck? Do you not have insurance? Mine is a 10$ copay. Also insulin doesn't come in 'vials' anymore. Do you also boil your needles on the stove? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671034) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:00 AM Author: Slippery base Never change Autoadmit.
Different insurance charges different prescriptions differently. Because there is no generic rDNA/analog insulin, some insurances cover it in tiers. Others have all copays for all prescriptions.
How the fuck do you think an insulin pump works if insulin is only in pens? How exactly would it get in there?
https://www.humalog.com/institution/ |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:04 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse Cartridges, which is what I've always called them and every other diabetic I know. Vials to a diabetic reminds us of the bad old days of insulin administration.
Also (no doobs) but what state do you live in? Some states, like NY, mandate coverage for diabetic products and impose price limits on insulin. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:12 AM Author: Slippery base 10-4.
I can almost guarantee you your cost is because of your prescription coverage. I do a lot of work for an insulin pricing nonprofit, and there are definitely issues in NYS.
Regardless, they don't do that shit in red America where I live. Freedom and liberty or something. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:15 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse Sorry bro, thoughts and prayers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671327) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:51 PM Author: supple selfie call 911 go the ER immediately bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669666) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:53 PM Author: Flesh 180 kitty cat area Are you made of cotton candy? If not, you've got a problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669676) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:02 PM Author: indigo tattoo becky jfc I thought this was flame. how are you alive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40669727) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 11:15 PM Author: chocolate church building fuck if i know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40670015) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:17 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse T1 diabetic here. Was over 500 when I was diagnosed. Running 300+ glucose for a year or more might not kill you, but might have some nasty side effects if your sugars rapidly return to normal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671024) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:34 AM Author: Ebony Wonderful Station Horrible. I got a 110 and am maf at myself. Too much Coca Cola but it's sooo good :(
You mentioned being on a corticosteroid... those are often really, really bad news. People on stuff like prednisone turn into swollen-faced irritable monsters who shovel food in their mouths.
Granted, I know that eating isn't your issue. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:41 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse Why are you mad at a 110? Is that your fasting or after eating? Either way it's well within the normal range. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671166) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:44 AM Author: Ebony Wonderful Station Fasting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671181) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:47 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse If it continues to climb I would be concerned. Also, everyone's "normal" range is not the same. Some people just naturally run slightly higher than others due to genetics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671198) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:49 AM Author: Ebony Wonderful Station ty, that makes sense. There were other times in the past I'd be at like 103, then other times 90, so it has varied.
I had started having sweetened condensed milk and black tea. That plus the soda. So I hope it was just a lot of dietary sugar at that time. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:51 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse Fasting blood glucose is just a snapshot of what your BG was at that exact moment in time. It's hard to draw conclusions about overall health based on it (unless it's something like 200+). Just have your A1C done next time you get blood work (suprised they don't do it automatically) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671219) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:52 AM Author: Ebony Wonderful Station My bad - they did. It was 5.12. In the past it was right at like 5.5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671227) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse That's square within the normal range. If you have a history of diabetes in the family though I would start to be proactive with diet and exercise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671240) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:36 AM Author: Amethyst Cerebral Halford You are in my prayers bro, but as someone who had a grandmother with type 2, 500 is not an unusual level to peak at, just get back down quickly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671134) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:52 AM Author: impertinent garrison toaster Dude, it's just some temporary craziness. Don't worry overmuch about it. I drank a whole bottle of prosecco the night before a really early physical, and my blood sugar was crazy high the next day, only because i basically ingested a sugar bowl right beforehand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671229) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:02 AM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse It's pretty clear you aren't actually diabetic, not in the traditional sense. You basically have a male version of gestational diabetes. I've known of people on chemo that have dealt with similar issues, managed it with oral medications, and once they were off chemo, blood sugars returned to normal levels. So in that sense, don't freak yourself out and increase your stress over the fact you think you have diabetes or are destroying your pancreas or something. In the meantime, you may want to speak with an endocrinologist, most PCP and Emergency Physicians are really, really clueless when it comes to treating diabetic symptoms or issues with the pancreas/liver. A competent endo will run some special blood tests to rule out auto-immune diabetes and help you better manage the symptoms (most likely through oral medications like metformin or glimepiride). As long as you can keep your BG under 250 (ideally 200) over the short-mid term you should not suffer any permanent side affects from the hyperglycemia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40671264) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 8:05 PM Author: chocolate church building TY
I didn't know you knew anything about medicine. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:00 PM Author: bright antidepressant drug meetinghouse 5 years with Type 1 (Auto-immune) Diabetes. Totally came as a shock to me, and was determined to not let it change my life drastically so I've basically become an expert on the disease and how to manage/treat it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Vannesa#40674798) |
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