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Best exit option for burned out solo lawmo?

Solo commercial lit attorney. Burned out. Definitely don't w...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
Sad
Bull Headed Abnormal People Who Are Hurt Shitlib
  01/09/23
Sounds like you’ve kind of ruled everything out. Learn...
Emerald Histrionic Half-breed Dingle Berry
  01/09/23
Ruled out law, yes. I want to get out completely. Sick of...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
Yeah those jerbs exist but the ones that pay $200K or more a...
Emerald Histrionic Half-breed Dingle Berry
  01/09/23
Most important part of being a solo is doing constant busine...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
I don’t disagree, but good luck convincing a decision ...
Emerald Histrionic Half-breed Dingle Berry
  01/09/23
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Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles
  01/10/23
Suck dick, maybe? At your age, you probably won't be abl...
razzle hospital
  01/09/23
Why can't you just cut your caseload to whatever you find ma...
titillating heaven partner
  01/09/23
lol need to make 200k
Out-of-control buck-toothed affirmative action
  01/09/23
I'm not sure how anyone with a family lives on less, to be h...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
what figure wouldn't make you lol
Heady olive tanning salon
  01/09/23
not sure, but lol at being a middle aged person transferring...
Out-of-control buck-toothed affirmative action
  01/09/23
I'm not opposed to sales at all. How hard is it to break...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
what clique are you?
Jet-lagged painfully honest candlestick maker
  01/10/23
Scumbag TBH
Startling mint state
  01/11/23
I'm basically in the same boat. My plan is either to make e...
transparent gaming laptop
  01/09/23
Yup
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
my phone rings 15 to 25 times a day with the self-inflicted ...
Plum appetizing ape
  01/09/23
feel like i wrote your post. it bewilders me that, someho...
Out-of-control buck-toothed affirmative action
  01/09/23
I don't know how I got stuck with this, all I know is that t...
transparent gaming laptop
  01/09/23
That's because he has a team of paralegals that handle every...
Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles
  01/10/23
You are both describing my life, too. Over the holidays I...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
Literally just had this happen.
Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles
  01/10/23
...
Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles
  01/10/23
Mine rings at least twice that. There are times I have to li...
Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles
  01/10/23
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territorial swashbuckling dog poop volcanic crater
  01/10/23
https://recruiting.myapps.paychex.com/appone/MainInfoReq.asp...
Khaki gunner regret
  01/09/23
You have to wonder who would want to pay a burned out former...
dashing doobsian sex offender
  01/09/23
$200k is not that much any more.
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
It's like 250% of the median HHI. That's a ton.
dashing doobsian sex offender
  01/09/23
You can easily get 200k total comp in tech doing some jdpref...
self-absorbed fortuitous meteor
  01/10/23
age / nw?
thriller knife
  01/09/23
window
white boltzmann trump supporter
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odious university
  01/10/23
I thought becoming a solo was the best decision pumos had ev...
Lavender hairy legs
  01/09/23
It is 868450485 compared to practicing law in a firm or in-h...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
Work the front desk at a hotel
soggy charcoal hominid
  01/09/23
My kid likes to watch the animated Curious George TV show an...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
Are these jerbs available to burnt-out biglawyers?
soggy charcoal hominid
  01/09/23
JD opens a lot of doors
Out-of-control buck-toothed affirmative action
  01/09/23
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  01/09/23
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  01/09/23
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cannon
  09/01/25
I think you have a good thing going and should probably appr...
Lavender hairy legs
  01/09/23
You're probably right. It's just depressing to think I've wa...
Startling mint state
  01/09/23
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soggy charcoal hominid
  01/09/23
All jobs suck. Very few exceptions. I think it's better to l...
Lavender hairy legs
  01/09/23
weird, in biglaw right now and have the itch to go solo, but...
laughsome ratface station
  01/09/23
It's all $hit :)?
soggy charcoal hominid
  01/09/23
It's a lot greener compared to biglaw, but it's still law.
Narrow-minded school cafeteria
  01/09/23
yeah I think the same thing will happen to me even if I beco...
laughsome ratface station
  01/09/23
I don't see how solo or small firm life is better unless you...
disgusting piazza
  01/09/23
-No boss -No fake emergencies created by your own team ...
Narrow-minded school cafeteria
  01/09/23
So you switched to tranny stuff? How’d you learn the a...
laughsome ratface station
  01/09/23
Yeah. Westlaw's Practical Law and Lexis Practical Guidance ...
Narrow-minded school cafeteria
  01/09/23
How’d you get clients? How much do u pay for practical...
laughsome ratface station
  01/09/23
I got pretty good at developing a social media presence and ...
Narrow-minded school cafeteria
  01/09/23
can you explain more. that seems nuts that you went from lit...
boyish claret alpha area
  01/09/23
Left biglaw with ultimate goal of getting out of lit eventua...
Narrow-minded school cafeteria
  01/10/23
Thats 180 and inspiring , thanks for the response. I am doin...
boyish claret alpha area
  01/10/23
Can I take you out to lunch sometime?
disgusting piazza
  01/09/23
Sure if you're in LA
Narrow-minded school cafeteria
  01/10/23
What floor is your office on?
Garnet spot
  01/09/23
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soggy charcoal hominid
  01/09/23
cr. pull a Garry Hoy.
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Electric underhanded telephone
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Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles
  01/10/23
become a Director at F100
comical selfie
  01/09/23
Solo transactional work instead?
Buff hot newt immigrant
  01/09/23
Mega Million$ drawing tomorrow for over a Billion
vermilion charismatic theatre old irish cottage
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The Buzz Aldrin Spacelaw Fellowship
  09/01/25
I make $75k
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Cerebral pea-brained patrolman
  01/10/23
this is a big improvement brother ur doing great
territorial swashbuckling dog poop volcanic crater
  01/10/23
it's a big improvement over delivering cookies, but at this ...
ivory indecent set dysfunction
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laughsome ratface station
  01/11/23
Get into construction. You could make manager in 2 years eas...
Motley business firm
  01/09/23
Poast on xo
crimson kitty cat sanctuary
  01/09/23
Move to a farm and raise ducks
Vibrant angry skinny woman
  01/09/23
Try to slowly transition to tranny work over the course of 2...
maroon church building
  01/09/23
Sex with men for money.
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  01/09/23
antidepressants
exciting outnumbered address multi-billionaire
  01/10/23
Why the fuck don't solos hire people and implement systems s...
Translucent soul-stirring twinkling uncleanness
  01/10/23
I tried this and get emails from my clients like "I app...
Startling mint state
  01/11/23
u need to get into an area with less demadning/ more prole c...
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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:55 PM
Author: Startling mint state

Solo commercial lit attorney. Burned out. Definitely don't want to go back to a firm or in-house (even if it was an option).

Need to make at least $200k per year. Any options or am I fucked for life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45764995)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: Bull Headed Abnormal People Who Are Hurt Shitlib

Sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45764999)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: Emerald Histrionic Half-breed Dingle Berry

Sounds like you’ve kind of ruled everything out. Learn to code maybe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765001)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: Startling mint state

Ruled out law, yes. I want to get out completely.

Sick of arguing and being detail oriented and sitting alone in a room for hours reading documents. Coding seems like the same thing minus arguing, so I don't think it's for me.

I want to get out of the office and talk to people and be social again. Some kind of business development maybe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765042)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:08 PM
Author: Emerald Histrionic Half-breed Dingle Berry

Yeah those jerbs exist but the ones that pay $200K or more are generally not offered to burned out self-employed litigators grasping for a career change.

Remove the salary requirement and you might have something to work with here (that could be a path to $200K or better in idk 5 years?)

But if you won’t consider anything less, better fall back in love with litigating and fast. I meant you’ve ruled out everything that’s an actual possibility for you in my earlier post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765070)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:10 PM
Author: Startling mint state

Most important part of being a solo is doing constant business development so it's not a completely unrelated skillset.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765098)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: Emerald Histrionic Half-breed Dingle Berry

I don’t disagree, but good luck convincing a decision maker hiring for a $200K+ jerb of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765110)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:16 AM
Author: Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767512)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: razzle hospital

Suck dick, maybe?

At your age, you probably won't be able to demand depending on where you live.

There is nothing else you can do with your age & skillset that commands $200k a year.

Either lower your expectations or learn to deepthroat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765029)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:02 PM
Author: titillating heaven partner

Why can't you just cut your caseload to whatever you find manageable?

How did you get the clients and how much do you bill them at?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765038)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: Out-of-control buck-toothed affirmative action

lol need to make 200k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765041)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: Startling mint state

I'm not sure how anyone with a family lives on less, to be honest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765047)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: Heady olive tanning salon

what figure wouldn't make you lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765049)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:10 PM
Author: Out-of-control buck-toothed affirmative action

not sure, but lol at being a middle aged person transferring zero skills or experience into a 200k+ job that is not SALES

think like the boss. "Hey let me give you 250,000 guaranteed a year, out of our profits, to do....." WHAT? How are you going to earn him $350k+ that year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765097)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: Startling mint state

I'm not opposed to sales at all.

How hard is it to break into a decent PETERMAN APPROVED sales job, though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765143)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:57 AM
Author: Jet-lagged painfully honest candlestick maker

what clique are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767551)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 10:21 AM
Author: Startling mint state

Scumbag TBH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45773259)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: transparent gaming laptop

I'm basically in the same boat. My plan is either to make enough money to someday stop working, or collect on that disability or death insurance policy. I don't see how there's any other options here.

It's not all that depressing, my firm is doing well, realistically I can keep this up for about another 15 or so years that should probably do it. It is an awful grind though and I wish I didn't have to do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765063)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: Startling mint state

Yup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765105)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:45 PM
Author: Plum appetizing ape

my phone rings 15 to 25 times a day with the self-inflicted problems and drama of absolute proles (even rich ones). Even if its lucrative I do not think I can keep this up for 15-20 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765313)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:05 PM
Author: Out-of-control buck-toothed affirmative action

feel like i wrote your post.

it bewilders me that, somehow, I ended up with the job of being the go-to guy for retard proles in absolute hair-on-fire crises.

Thats the entirety of my job. Shit exploding in your life and youre manic about it? Call Im Done Here!

How on earth did this happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765412)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:03 PM
Author: transparent gaming laptop

I don't know how I got stuck with this, all I know is that the only way out is to be successful and win your way out. CSLG does the same thing we do and you don't hear him complaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765613)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:47 AM
Author: Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles

That's because he has a team of paralegals that handle every aspect of the case beyond intake (more specifically: signing the client) & some negotiations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767538)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:05 PM
Author: Startling mint state

You are both describing my life, too.

Over the holidays I had a difficult former client (small business) get a demand letter for some stupid shit they did and they just told the plaintiff's attorney to "send it to quotemo, he's my attorney" even though I'm not and have no interest in taking this case. Of course the plaintiff's attorney started hounding me while I wasted time reminding the client that I'm not their attorney for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765620)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:49 AM
Author: Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles

Literally just had this happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767540)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:45 AM
Author: Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767536)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:18 AM
Author: Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles

Mine rings at least twice that. There are times I have to literally turn it off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767514)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:34 AM
Author: territorial swashbuckling dog poop volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45768045)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:08 PM
Author: Khaki gunner regret

https://recruiting.myapps.paychex.com/appone/MainInfoReq.asp?R_ID=5177241&

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766741)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:09 PM
Author: dashing doobsian sex offender

You have to wonder who would want to pay a burned out former lawyer $200k to not practice law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765077)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:11 PM
Author: Startling mint state

$200k is not that much any more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765102)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:23 PM
Author: dashing doobsian sex offender

It's like 250% of the median HHI. That's a ton.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765201)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:23 AM
Author: self-absorbed fortuitous meteor

You can easily get 200k total comp in tech doing some jdpreferred bs or becoming a project manager. It's all bad tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767405)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: thriller knife

age / nw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765109)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: white boltzmann trump supporter

window

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765113)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:36 AM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45768055)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:50 PM
Author: odious university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45771898)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:31 PM
Author: Lavender hairy legs

I thought becoming a solo was the best decision pumos had ever made, like a manna from heaven?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765245)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:33 PM
Author: Startling mint state

It is 868450485 compared to practicing law in a firm or in-house. I just want to do something else with my life now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765252)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:34 PM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid

Work the front desk at a hotel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765254)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:35 PM
Author: Startling mint state

My kid likes to watch the animated Curious George TV show and it really makes me want to be a doorman at a luxury building, not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765260)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:35 PM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid

Are these jerbs available to burnt-out biglawyers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765262)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: Out-of-control buck-toothed affirmative action

JD opens a lot of doors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765268)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765272)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:38 PM
Author: Startling mint state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765273)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: Maize institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765310)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:46 PM
Author: Electric underhanded telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765315)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:04 PM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765403)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:20 PM
Author: Wonderful Library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765479)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 8:51 PM
Author: crawly arousing giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766309)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:37 AM
Author: territorial swashbuckling dog poop volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45768058)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: cannon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#49228215)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:36 PM
Author: Lavender hairy legs

I think you have a good thing going and should probably appreciate it. Why not work a little less and be social outside of work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765263)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:39 PM
Author: Startling mint state

You're probably right. It's just depressing to think I've wasted years and years of my life doing a job that has been so unsatisfying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765278)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:40 PM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765285)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:42 PM
Author: Lavender hairy legs

All jobs suck. Very few exceptions. I think it's better to live our UMC life with a shit job than to be poor.

What you really ought to do instead of scrambling for some entry level sales job is to invest in a business and find people to run it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765297)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:41 PM
Author: laughsome ratface station

weird, in biglaw right now and have the itch to go solo, but I guess the grass is not really greener

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765287)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:43 PM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid

It's all $hit :)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765303)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: Narrow-minded school cafeteria

It's a lot greener compared to biglaw, but it's still law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765311)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:53 PM
Author: laughsome ratface station

yeah I think the same thing will happen to me even if I become a successful solo, ill just get bored of lawshit anyways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765341)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:12 PM
Author: disgusting piazza

I don't see how solo or small firm life is better unless you are a CSLG type who is literally making millions.

With or without a boss you have the stress of litigation and demands of servicing clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765442)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 8:57 PM
Author: Narrow-minded school cafeteria

-No boss

-No fake emergencies created by your own team

-Ability to decline cases you know will be more stress than they're worth

-You don't have to litigate. I was a litmo and got out of it. Last year I billed ~1000 hours drafting contracts and reviewing the kind of stuff I've reviewed hundreds of times before and took home $350k after expenses. Beats the shit out of being at a firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766338)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:06 PM
Author: laughsome ratface station

So you switched to tranny stuff? How’d you learn the area after doing lit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766364)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:20 PM
Author: Narrow-minded school cafeteria

Yeah. Westlaw's Practical Law and Lexis Practical Guidance or whatever it's called are very helpful. For stuff I didn't think I could competently figure out at first, I hired contract attorneys and eventually learned how to do what they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766453)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:21 PM
Author: laughsome ratface station

How’d you get clients? How much do u pay for practical law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766464)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:59 PM
Author: Narrow-minded school cafeteria

I got pretty good at developing a social media presence and getting speaking engagements. All my clients come through that.

I think Practical law is like $350/mo for solos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766700)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:07 PM
Author: boyish claret alpha area

can you explain more. that seems nuts that you went from litigation to a contracts drafting expert as a solo with 'social media presence.' like explain more details of how this works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766740)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:10 AM
Author: Narrow-minded school cafeteria

Left biglaw with ultimate goal of getting out of lit eventually.

Year 1: Still doing lit - a few very small referrals from a friend to get me started, grinding out a year of litigating at ~$250/hr rate. Start writing articles about the area of compliance/consulting/tranny stuff I want to focus on. Get invited to speak at a conference related to that area. Start social media pages. Don't make much money.

Year 2: Still about 80% lit, one solid referral from old firm kept me afloat, but they were psychotic to work for. Rate up to $300. Have a few transactional clients that I use a contract attorney to do all the heavy lifting for. Learning the ropes so to speak. Focus on posting daily social media content related to that practice area. Get lucky that stuff gets reshared by a few big accounts. Net $320k.

Year 3: Maybe about 50% lit now. I understand how to do the "greatest hits" contracts in my practice area that I see over and over again. Use contract attorneys for stuff I don't feel like I can competently figure out. Get better at figuring out what social content gets more reach and engagement. Net $415k thanks to a few lit cases going the right way.

Year 4: Wrap up final lit case. Social/online presence continues to grow and keeps the pipeline full. Rate at $500. Landed some big clients that keep me busy every month. Refer everything lit-related out. Net $350k.

This year: Off to a good start, made $15k so far since Jan 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767375)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 3:38 PM
Author: boyish claret alpha area

Thats 180 and inspiring , thanks for the response. I am doing something very similar as I just left biglaw as a litigator too and getting into an area now as a solo that i previously had little interaction with

would love to know for the social media stuff if you have any resources that you found really great in helping you out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45770218)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:01 PM
Author: disgusting piazza

Can I take you out to lunch sometime?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766712)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:13 AM
Author: Narrow-minded school cafeteria

Sure if you're in LA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767384)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:46 PM
Author: Garnet spot

What floor is your office on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765318)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:47 PM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765321)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:03 PM
Author: Thirsty lay

cr.

pull a Garry Hoy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765399)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:48 AM
Author: soggy charcoal hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767463)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:09 PM
Author: Electric underhanded telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765427)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:53 AM
Author: Pearly fragrant deer antler fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767547)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:08 PM
Author: comical selfie

become a Director at F100

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45765635)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:14 PM
Author: Buff hot newt immigrant

Solo transactional work instead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766415)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: vermilion charismatic theatre old irish cottage

Mega Million$ drawing tomorrow for over a Billion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766443)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: The Buzz Aldrin Spacelaw Fellowship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#49228270)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:23 PM
Author: ivory indecent set dysfunction

I make $75k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766471)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:12 AM
Author: Cerebral pea-brained patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767376)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:38 AM
Author: territorial swashbuckling dog poop volcanic crater

this is a big improvement brother

ur doing great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45768061)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:44 PM
Author: ivory indecent set dysfunction

it's a big improvement over delivering cookies, but at this rate I"ll be making 125k when I retire (65k in 2022 dollars)

If it weren't for ethereum I'd be living in a studio apartment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45771881)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 2:59 PM
Author: laughsome ratface station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45774692)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:27 PM
Author: Motley business firm

Get into construction. You could make manager in 2 years easy, and if you work your ass off, you could make low 100s until then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766483)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:01 PM
Author: crimson kitty cat sanctuary

Poast on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766717)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:04 PM
Author: Vibrant angry skinny woman

Move to a farm and raise ducks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766730)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:10 PM
Author: maroon church building

Try to slowly transition to tranny work over the course of 2-3 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45766750)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 11:26 PM
Author: Low-t azn jap

Sex with men for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45767195)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:52 PM
Author: exciting outnumbered address multi-billionaire

antidepressants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45771907)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:57 PM
Author: Translucent soul-stirring twinkling uncleanness

Why the fuck don't solos hire people and implement systems so they can be the business owner and have other grunts deal with the hair-on-fire clients?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45771924)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 10:21 AM
Author: Startling mint state

I tried this and get emails from my clients like "I appreciate that you hired an associate but the work product isn't at the same level and we need you to be the one who works with us."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45773258)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 11:08 AM
Author: laughsome ratface station

u need to get into an area with less demadning/ more prole clients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45773519)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 12:41 PM
Author: Startling mint state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2Vannesa#45773993)