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FSU Crim Prof: Rumors SWIRLING online that Donna has been arrested
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Date: November 13th, 2023 9:31 PM Author: Razzle elastic band Unverified
https://x.com/fancifiction/status/1724250941484892561?s=46&t=mEouf83GqBUgZTVRh6xPqg |
Date: November 13th, 2023 9:41 PM Author: turquoise messiness nibblets How pissed is TSINAH he decided to go with “Law King” as opposed to the “Courtroom Chef”
https://instagram.com/courtroomchef |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 9:54 PM Author: out-of-control insecure double fault casino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053236) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:21 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office allegedly booked 13 minutes ago
allegedly they were at the airport, going to Israel |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:22 AM Author: Razzle elastic band She’s now in her own private Gaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053885) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:22 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office her info is live she was arrested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053326) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:23 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office this is not a drill Donna Adelson was arrested at the airport (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053327) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:26 PM Author: turquoise messiness nibblets 5 6 112
https://twitter.com/angenette5/status/1724266075951387026 |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:42 AM Author: green dragon jap preftigious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054394) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 2:07 PM Author: Slimy dysfunction circlehead !!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47113224) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:26 PM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit Should have taken a sailboat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053333) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:27 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/2023/11/13/donna-adelson-arrested-days-after-sons-conviction-in-dan-markel-murder/71572257007/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053338) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:34 PM Author: adventurous multi-billionaire persian 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053360) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:29 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office suspicion of fleeing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053343) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 2:07 PM Author: Slimy dysfunction circlehead Usually that sways juries heavily. Except for OJ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47113227) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:30 PM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053348) |
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Date: November 13th, 2023 10:32 PM Author: purple roommate garrison 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053354) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:28 AM Author: passionate massive idiot mugshot: https://twitter.com/shriley41802/status/1724291522005172688 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053890) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:45 AM Author: Motley abusive stain potus LOL her nose looks like Michael Jackson’s 12th or 13th nose. Will be awesome to see her in court when she can’t dye her hair and get her treatments. She will look like the Wicked Witch of South Beach. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054054) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:28 AM Author: Silver Resort Crotch 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053892) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:33 AM Author: Razzle elastic band I learned Grand Jury meets weds in tally.
I wonder if her attempt to flee accelerated this. All eyes on xo lurker Wendi….. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:40 AM Author: Silver Resort Crotch bought a one-way ticket to vietnam to get PIPED by TT
https://twitter.com/JeffBurlew/status/1724405354623119682 |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:47 AM Author: Razzle elastic band lol, just be american jews escaping justice in Vietnam.
I still believe they planned to scoop Donna and Wendi simultaneously, but this mad flight affected their timeline.
Wendi's having a rough and rainy day today in Miami
also, what idiot facing indictment buys a one-way ticket? At least make round trip plans to somewhere the fuzz believes they can track you, like the Bahamas, and then launch from there. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:48 AM Author: Silver Resort Crotch might have to move back to Tallahassee again to be closer to family (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053948) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:50 AM Author: Razzle elastic band not flame, word in wendi's circles was that she was worried about parents suicide. they'd better put donna in a protective unit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053958) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:41 AM Author: navy soggy location "hey interesting talmud problem here blah blah blah" -DBG advising Donna Adelson's suicide effort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054047) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:02 AM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054455) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:39 AM Author: Tan Nursing Home Judaism kicked in and they bought the one-way tickets to save $ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054043) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:42 AM Author: green dragon jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054397) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:58 AM Author: purple roommate garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054442) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:02 AM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054456) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:27 AM Author: stirring self-centered mediation point just as a matter of criminal craft, the Adelsons are 154. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054615) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:19 PM Author: diverse temple deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054850) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:31 PM Author: insane theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055322) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 2:09 PM Author: Slimy dysfunction circlehead I mean ... WTF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47113236) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:47 AM Author: Motley abusive stain potus It may surprise you to hear that these people are kind of stupid and their crimes are all obvious and easy to detect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054057) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:53 AM Author: confused pistol did they even check to see whether a roundtrip ticket with a random return date would have been cheaper in absolute terms as is often the case especially with international travel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054066) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:55 AM Author: navy soggy location ((())) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054072) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:40 AM Author: navy soggy location Holy fucking shit I thought this was flame but it's real. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054044) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:54 AM Author: confused pistol https://nitter.net/JeffBurlew/status/1724405354623119682 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054069) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:13 AM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy crim-mos, true that the one way flight can be introduced as evidence? if so, lmaoooooooooo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054534) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:28 PM Author: Shivering water buffalo lol of course it can (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054888) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:39 PM Author: Wonderful Cyan Step-uncle's House Therapy Explain.
'I believe I am going to be charged with a crime. I am innocent of that crime, but I don't want the risk of being jailed, so I am going to leave the jurisdiction to avoid being apprehended.'
State: "Ah that's evidence you are guilty of the underlying act!" |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:46 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall the whole criminal system is about jurors making inferences about peoples' state of mind.
this is but one example of this.
the state can argue whatever they want. the defendant is welcome to testify or not testify and explain himself. and the jury gets to decide if this does tend to prove guilt. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:38 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall a two-way intl flight could be too. it's up to the parties to argue relevance / prejudice, but it goes to consciousness of guilt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054922) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:43 PM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy wikipedia says kaitlin armstrong caught a federal charge of attempting to flee prosecution so i guess jury would probably hear about it regardless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054938) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:47 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall much harder to prove BRD a fleeing charge itself than to use fleeing as conscience of guilt to help prove an actual crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054951) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:24 PM Author: Wonderful Cyan Step-uncle's House Therapy A one way ticket is "states evidence"? Evidence of what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054869) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:48 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall consciousness of guilt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054959) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 4:24 PM Author: lfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219828) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:45 AM Author: Curious Bonkers Plaza no wendi? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47053927) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 3:15 PM Author: Slimy dysfunction circlehead That would be SWeet if they arrested her on Xmas Eve. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47113539) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:42 AM Author: slate base faggotry one way to a non-extradition country, that's interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054048) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:55 AM Author: Silver Resort Crotch how dumb do you have to be to buy a one-way in this situation. just buy the round trip for plausible deniability. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054075) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 9:03 AM Author: slate base faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054099) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:18 AM Author: big unhinged psychic church building and waste those shekels? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054310) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:09 AM Author: House-broken lodge usually one-way is more expensive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054506) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:48 AM Author: Motley abusive stain potus Any chance Harvey gets charged as an accessory for trying to help her flee? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054058) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 8:54 AM Author: navy soggy location "honey I thought these were roundtrip!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054070) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:16 AM Author: Razzle elastic band At this moment Harvey is getting a beej on a beach in Nam.
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:55 AM Author: frisky state *his limp disappears as georgia cappleman looks up aghast in a moment of dawning comprehension* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054430) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:14 AM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054538) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:26 AM Author: navy soggy location Arraignment vid with a shitlaw judge cracking jokes. https://youtu.be/hG4lNi5sMHk?si=UvuOO8Kp93V8zcE6
Donna's TTT lawyer: https://tachebronis.com/marissel-descalzo/ |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:32 AM Author: Razzle elastic band mindy's a prominent jewess from miami beach, stunned she knows nothing about this case and is talking about bonds, etc.
mindy had her own legal trouble kicking down a landlord's door |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:34 AM Author: Razzle elastic band also donna's in a mental health / suicide vest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054347) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:48 AM Author: navy soggy location holy shit i wondered why she was wearing a dentist xray lead vest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054411) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:29 AM Author: Razzle elastic band Curious about the nuts and bolts of law enforcement here
Tally State Attorney said he consulted with LE about procedures in extraditing from Nam (or Dubai which was the layover). They advised its arduous so he ordered arrest.
Would like to know the steps. How long ago was the ticket purchased? Why did they wait a week after Charlie's conviction? Smart move would be to flee same day, amid the disorganization. Did they purchase with credit card? Are all financial transactions of heretofore unindicted co-conspirators tracked? How prompt is the notification? Could they have bought and escaped if same day?
Or was there a passport flag put in place ages ago? Probably, but SA comment indicates he had enough time to make considerations, consult LE, make a decision... suggesting he knew for a time.
Wonder how many criminals actually succeed at buying ticket, boarding flight, clearing foreign customs, and disappearing |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 10:53 AM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Kaitlin Armstrong made it to Costa Rica. The dumbass Austin Police tipped her off that they were going to charge her with murder the next day. She immediately got on a plane to New York, dyed her hair, and snagged her sister's passport. Made it to Costa Rica and started to get plastic surgery. US Marshalls somehow found her in a resort town.
If you're going to flee you have to act like you mean it! She also spent months planning escape from jail while on a medical visit and nearly got away but was too slow on foot for LE. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:00 AM Author: slate base faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054447) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 2:14 PM Author: Slimy dysfunction circlehead Hers was particularly stupid because all she had to do was cross the border to Nicaragua from CR and they wouldn't extradite her to the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47113255) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:03 AM Author: stirring self-centered mediation point cr qs.
purely as a hypothetical matter suppose you believe LE is itching to arrest you and you decide to leave for a country where extradition will be difficult or impossible for LE.
what do you do if you assume they are tracking your bank and credit card usage? is there a way to get out of the US on the sly? and can they then just freeze your money?
i'd appreciate anyone's informed speculation that. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:22 AM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy could try and buy prepaid single use gift cards using cash maybe, or use miles and maybe pair that with gift cards to use on a non-domestic carrier for a jump to non-extradition country from a less suspicious country like bahamas. still id imagine it’s just as easy for LE to get airline passenger info as financial transaction history. maybe using bahamas air or whatever instead of delta for the jump would buy enough time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054586) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:29 AM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit Just charter a fishing boat to Honduras and fly from there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054632) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:30 AM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit U can literally sail across pacific in a sailboat with an outboard motor, you can do it in a furking canoe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054635) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:31 AM Author: House-broken lodge what could go wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054640) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:31 AM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit Many 180 vids on youtube of doods sailing to hawaii in their lil shitboats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054646) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:27 PM Author: slate base faggotry really, how long does it take? and you can use a sailboat or one with a motor? assume the coast guard rescues a number of these guys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055310) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:30 PM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit This dood took 27 days - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUi0gsxVHZM&ab_channel=SamHolmesSailing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055320) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:32 PM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit Yt ppl will do shit like this instead of repairing the harm of colonialism and genocide SMH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055325) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:56 PM Author: slate base faggotry nice! and just a sailboat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055367) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:31 AM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy *tt tp throws cup of fresh juice against the wall, slams macbook shut* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054644) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:32 AM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054655) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:18 PM Author: stirring self-centered mediation point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054843) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:29 PM Author: Silver Resort Crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054892) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:32 AM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Didn't Gary Glitter do something like this? Sailed from England to Vietnam to avoid chomo charges? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054653) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:33 AM Author: Floppy Orchestra Pit But he still went to jail didnt he (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054662) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:35 AM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard I believe when he got to SEA he continued to be a chomo and raped prodigiously. I think Thailand sent him back to England while he was trying to escape to Vietnam. He was a compulsive rapemo. It's sad they don't play his song at sports games anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054672) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 3:24 PM Author: Concupiscible aggressive main people Did everyone overlook the fact that she lives in fucking Miami? All she needed to do is find some Cuban bro to drive her to Cuba on his boat. Cuba has no extradition to the U.S., so she can fly from there to anywhere (or just stay in Cuba). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47079088) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:31 AM Author: Aquamarine mischievous office milk Buy ticket at the gate. Jump on a cargo ship. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:25 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall these would be good Q's to poast on flyertalk.
dont know the answers to most, but what i do know the US has the names of pax and passport info on any flight going out the country. why do you think there's no exit immigration in US airports? bc they already know who is getting on those planes. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 11:30 AM Author: Sticky Partner When I skip the country I’ll fly private (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054636) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:13 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office A one way ticket to Vietnam. I mean how obvious can you be.
Wonder how much time Wendi has as a free woman. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:15 PM Author: navy soggy location good color in this story and the warrant Jail calls from after Charles Adelson’s guily verdict include multiple calls in which Donna Sue Adelson is telling Charles Adelson that she is getting things in order, creating trusts, and making sure her grandchildren are taken care of. Donna discusses plans for a suicide, but also discusses plans to flee to a non-extradition country. Donna Sue Adelson has considerable financial resources to accomplish this.
On November 7, 2023, Donna and Harvey Adelson booked flights to Vietnam with a stop in Dubai. The flight, EK0214 departs Miami, Fl. on November 13, 2023 at 8:10 p.m. to Dubai. Flight EK0392 departs Dubai on November 15, 2023 at 9:35a.m. and lands in Saigon at 7:35 pm. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:20 PM Author: navy soggy location lmao she discussed this ON THE JAIL PHONE LINE what a fucking idiot, Donna. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054853) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:22 PM Author: Razzle elastic band holy shit.
*watches as your son gets convicted of murder, almost entirely on evidence collected from recorded phone calls, which also implicate you*
*sit through entire trial listening to hours of phone calls*
*talk to your son on jail call, which commences with warning THIS CALL IS RECORDED*
"So son... I think I will flee the country." |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:24 PM Author: Silver Resort Crotch wow, this whole family is full of complete retards who think way too highly of their own competence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054872) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:32 PM Author: Shivering water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054904) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:48 PM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054960) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:49 PM Author: Blathering Stage Really Tough Guy they'd really like it here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054965) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:56 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054994) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 6:37 PM Author: lime ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47056418) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:16 PM Author: navy soggy location also holy crap cutting it close. "Adelson was taken into custody at Miami International Airport as she was boarding the jetway to the plane on an out-of-county warrant, meaning the charges are for a crime committed elsewhere." https://news.wfsu.org/wfsu-local-news/2023-11-14/one-week-after-her-sons-murder-conviction-donna-adelson-is-arrested |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:24 PM Author: misunderstood deep trailer park I think cops wait to arrest people on the jetway on purpose because they think it's funny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054870) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:31 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall lol or because it's better proof of intent that their ass was actually 5 feet from the plane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054898) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:36 PM Author: misunderstood deep trailer park I like it when the cops let the person take their seat and then actually drag them out of the plane
They're sitting there thinking they're home free, and then bam! lmao |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:39 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall they should let the pilot close the doors and start taxiing, and then park on the tarmac and pull up a staircase and let the cops on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054926) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:43 PM Author: frisky state take off and fly around aimlessly for 12 hours and use that time to mock up the original airport as the destination airport. let them get off, stretch their legs, buy a bottle of water, breathe a huge sigh of relief, then bam! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054939) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:47 PM Author: Silver Resort Crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054953) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:49 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054962) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:50 PM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054968) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:57 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054999) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:09 PM Author: diverse temple deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055031) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:05 PM Author: Shivering water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055219) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:28 PM Author: slate base faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055316) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:38 PM Author: insane theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055340) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 5:58 PM Author: mahogany useless hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47114116) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:42 PM Author: Wine immigrant You'd have to switch seats with someone right after getting on. Give your aisle seat to someone with a middle seat in the back of the plane and then watch them get dragged off! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054935) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:49 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054964) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:50 PM Author: know-it-all vibrant boistinker puppy cr, then put on groucho marx eyebrow+mustache glasses when u sit down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054967) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:52 PM Author: frisky state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054974) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 3:27 PM Author: Concupiscible aggressive main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47079104) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:56 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Imagine the cross on this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47054998) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:59 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall "i just bought a int'l plane tic so i could use the emirates business class lounge and get an amazing meal, and i planned on leaving and getting a refund on the ticket" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055006) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:16 PM Author: confused pistol redirect: ... &you expect this jury to believe that? - we're jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055058) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:20 PM Author: Bronze frozen hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055069) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 3:18 PM Author: green dragon jap "I was flying to take over a hamburger stand I'd purchased from an American-born entrepeneur" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055449) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 4:29 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Donna Adelson to Georgia Cappleman on the stand: "Have you ever heard of AutoAdmit.com?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055918) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 4:32 PM Author: Razzle elastic band GC: That like profblawg?
DA: *sniffs* mutters "prole goy" |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 9:41 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47057102) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 3:34 PM Author: Concupiscible aggressive main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47079149) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 12:36 PM Author: Razzle elastic band
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Wendi allegedly consulted an out of state attorney that's a Kastigar specialist. Apparently she is gearing up for derivative use immunity. The state can't follow any leads from her testimony. She's nearly bulletproof.
Edit: brilliant move by Wendi to spill her guts in Charlie's trial and gain so much immunity for it. She did it all to handcuff the state.
Legal scholars, are there any limitations on Kastigar? Can the state show they found out the information before her testimony, or if she says it is she automatically immune? |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:26 PM Author: Razzle elastic band Whose burden? I’m unfamiliar with the law in detail but it’s *derivative*, meaning the prohibited evidkeve must be directly derived from something she said. It’s not simply she said it, so it’s unusable.
Obv example is a witness saying where the gun was thrown and then the gun is found and DNA tested.
State had their theory and sufficient evidence to get Rivera’s plea.
Then with Riveras testimony they convicted Garcia and Katie, during which trials Wendi was hostile and contributed nothing to aid the state.
Then with Katie’s testimony they convicted Charlie, during which trial Wendi contributed nothing of merit.
I think it would be hard for her to argue that anything the state uses in her prosecution came from her immunized testimony.
Furthermore, I believe they can prove she perjured herself, which probably violates the agreement and Renders immunity null. Examples of perjury - never told Lacasse certain things, never turned down Dans street day or murder, etc |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:24 PM Author: Orange University The state does not have enough to convict Wendi beyond a reasonable doubt unless Charlie or Donna flip and give pretty good evidence that she knew what was going on.
Charlie was a pretty circumstantial case without Rivera and Katie turning on him. Wendi is even less connected and would need some eyewitness testimony that she knew about and helped plan the murder. And I'm not sure that even that testimony would be enough, Charlie would be an absolute gold-mine for cross examination. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:33 PM Author: Razzle elastic band I also think Donna will plead or suicide. Can’t see a trial. She doesn’t want to waste money. She wants to die. She may plea and proffer in a way that exculpates Wendi. Charlie may also give proffer that exculpates Wendi. “Mom and I did everything” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055108) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:35 PM Author: Silver Resort Crotch this would be a next level spoiled brat outcome. your entire family spends the rest of their life in prison so the sweet little princess can live her life without worry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055112) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:45 PM Author: Motley abusive stain potus Mom killsself after proffer and you’re enough of a psychopath that you’re back on Tinder trolling for another dorky Jew to torture that same day. And shortporch’s parents are still cut off from their grandkids. This seems like the most likely outcome but hopefully she fucked up somehow and the state still has a hammer they’re holding behind their backs. But I’m resigned to her going down as the most evil JAP ever. Maybe some Latin Kings bro will shoot her in her driveway after she skates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055130) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:01 PM Author: Silver Resort Crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055204) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:43 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Never underestimate defendants to change their tune and preserve themselves once the reality sinks in. This may be her mentality on day one but a lot of things shift like luggage during a flight. Give it some time she may start to lose it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055126) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:40 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office I disagree completely with the assessment that Wendi is bulletproof. If they're gonna go after her they have plenty of independent evidence with which to do so.
I also disagree that she spilled her guts. She's testified three times now and comes off as a lair every time. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:45 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard An attorney delving into Kastigar said that the two main things that are inadmissible is her driving by the crime scene, and things she said to Jeff. And furthermore, he added that there's exculpatory evidence in the phone calls. It's a longshot case even though she's obviously very guilty the state lacks evidence here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055131) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:48 PM Author: Razzle elastic band Cops testify seeing her car. That’s not derived from her testimony. Further she talked about liquor store etc in initial and only interview, not immunized.
What she told Lacasse he testifies to. Not from her protected testimony |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:51 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055154) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:02 PM Author: Razzle elastic band All they cannot do is impeach her with shit she said in previous trials should she testify in her own, I believe.
She said nothing they can or will use to find new evidence |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 3:15 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Big if true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055434) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:02 PM Author: Silver Resort Crotch they also have cell tower evidence placing her in the area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055209) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:08 PM Author: Razzle elastic band Best thing she’s got going is that Charlie and Donna repeatedly say on wires, “Wendi’s a fucking fool, don’t tell her anything, shes lucky and doesn’t know why”. And then she pukes when she learns the truth after the murder.
Worst facts against her: checks to see if Danny will be in town days of murder, seems to frame Lacasse, drives by, constantly lies about dumb shit
I think she has reasonable doubt but woukd still like to see her indicted |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 2:25 PM Author: Silver Resort Crotch i agree, wendi probably does get off in the end but put her through the ringer anyway.
i think donna is fucked. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 3:16 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Facts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055439) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:50 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office Her driving by: I don't know the original source of that information. If it's from her testimony she might have a point. I believe that she lied about how close she got to the crime scene (she says that the tape was near the end of the road but the cops say it was a couple houses down from the Markel residence, which is a good half-mile or more away), and I'm not sure how that plays into it.
Her statements to Jeff: The state gained that evidence from Jeff, not Wendi, so I don't think that's covered by use/derivative use immunity. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 3:17 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055442) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 7:25 PM Author: Orange University They don't have enough direct evidence of Wendi's involvement to get a conviction. At least, not from what we know and what is publicly available. You need Charlie or Donna to flip on her to get a conviction, and even then, it's not a slam dunk case.
Yes, there's some really good circumstantial evidence. But for this, where the only connection to the murderers is through Donna and Charlie, I think you'd need one of the two to testify against her to feel confident about a conviction. |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:38 PM Author: green dragon jap anyone else find the word SWIRLING inescapably erotic? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055116) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:43 PM Author: saffron goal in life toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055128) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:46 PM Author: Motley abusive stain potus (JJJr. tp) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055137) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:43 PM Author: Marvelous Principal's Office One wonders if the Adelson family will keep up the charade, or if they are going to finally give up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055125) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:48 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Smart money on (((charade))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055142) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:54 PM Author: Motley abusive stain potus This crazy old bitch thought she could flee to Vietnam. Pretty sure she’s not going to crack and give up her daughter now, and the psychopathology is genetic. The one hopeful thought I had was that Charlie might’ve held out hope that they would continue pursuing an appeal for him and this turn of events makes that less of a priority, and who knows how much more money they will sink into this. If Donna is talking suicide it doesn’t seem like they have inexhaustible resources to continue fighting it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055166) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:57 PM Author: Razzle elastic band She told Charlie she had squared away trusts for grandkids. I think they’ve divested most of their money and were going to live on Vietnamese dongs.
Imagine taking $$$ back from grandkids to spend on a losing trial over killing their dad? Lol
She will never see a jury. She’s done here and knows it |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 1:58 PM Author: Shivering water buffalo She's suicidal because she realizes after Charlie's conviction that they can't just buy themselves out of this mess. They spared no expense in hiring Charlie who they undoubtedly thought was the best defense lawyer in Florida only to see the jury deliberate for under four hours. Its over and she knows it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47055184) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 4:55 PM Author: misunderstood deep trailer park Questionable to contemplate suicide after being caught masterminding the murder of some poor dood. Like, why is killing someone your go to solution for every problem (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47056060) |
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Date: November 14th, 2023 5:29 PM Author: transparent 180 organic girlfriend who? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47056213) |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 2:52 PM Author: navy soggy location More crazy details. On the day of Donna Adelson's arrest, one of Charlie Adelson's friends contacted the State Attorney's Office in Tallahassee to tell them about a conversation they had with Donna and Harvey Adelson the night before, court records show.
The couple called the friend to discuss the few travel plans they had, and to ask for advice about flights and places to stay. Harvey Adelson told them not to mention any of their plans to their son.
"This family friend has known the Adelsons for over 10 years and has never had longer than a five-minute conversation with Donna or Harvey," records say. "They found the contact very strange."
When Donna Adelson was arrested, FBI Agent Pat Sanford — who has been a key witness for the state — confiscated her phone.
"Donna attempted to pull away and prevent him from grabbing it," a search warrant affidavit states. "Donna said she was told not to give her phone to law enforcement."
Leon Circuit Judge Stephen Everett, who presided over Charlie Adelson's trial, signed a search warrant allowing investigators to search her phone for anything after June 2012 to now.
"The data being sought is any that would further the investigation into the communications and actions of Donna Adelson during the crime and of any events related to this incident before the crime occurred," records say. |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 3:00 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Are phone records going back to 2012 stored? I assume that she would have upgraded the physical phone in ten years. Can they get data from the phone company? If she called Wendi a bunch on the day of the murder is it enough to indict? How much info from before the murder is there to really obtain at this point? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47082962) |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 3:10 PM Author: Concupiscible aggressive main people What an absolute clown show. How did these people manage to avoid justice for 10 years? If I were a wealthy family in south Florida who had my son-in-law murdered, I would have had bought a speed boat and a house in Cuba years ago. Did they honestly not think that police would connect the dots when Charlie's fuck buddy's baby daddy killed shortporch? I find it astonishing that they didn't do a better job of covering their tracks (and their asses) when they literally had years to plan for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47083041) |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 3:14 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard Criminals aren't rational news at 11.
Magbanua could be out completely free but she got a life sentence to protect absolutely nobody. |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 7:56 PM Author: Concupiscible aggressive main people I can actually understand Katie's case. If you grow up in the hood, ratting someone out to the police is one of the worst crimes imaginable. Ratting out your own baby daddy to the police is basically worse than murder. I can understand why someone who grew up in that culture would rather take a life sentence than be a snitch.
But how the fuck did the Adelsons not think at all about what they were going to do if the police started sniffing around? For crying out loud, my wife and I have discussed plans for how we would flee the country and avoid extradition if we ever needed to do that, and we've never committed any crimes. They easily had the resources to buy some fake passports off the dark web and get a safe house in Cuba, but it's like they didn't even think about their plans until Charlie got convicted. |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 9:08 PM Author: Dashing slippery haunted graveyard There's a cottage industry in Miami teaching Vietnamese to old Jewish ladies with something to hide. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5443932&forum_id=2Vannesa#47084430) |