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Terminator 2 Plot Hole: they literally had no fucking plan to kill the T1000

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing th...
soul-stirring ratface
  06/18/24
The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great mo...
chrome swollen half-breed
  06/18/24
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dark slap-happy point
  06/18/24
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Supple Seedy Becky
  06/18/24
its basically invincible to physical damage
appetizing sound barrier
  06/18/24
It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of...
Twinkling soggy resort
  06/18/24
he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after g...
Saffron Box Office
  06/18/24
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Flirting national
  06/18/24
Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000u...
soul-stirring ratface
  06/19/24
Giant octopus would do it
White deer antler
  06/19/24
or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal
soul-stirring ratface
  06/19/24
Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there'...
White deer antler
  06/19/24
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Hilarious locale
  06/19/24
That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you i...
Aromatic hideous market stain
  06/18/24
save it for trivia, champ
Ruddy bespoke pisswyrm base
  06/18/24
the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridic...
Sadistic round eye
  06/18/24
Youre gay, we get it.
chrome swollen half-breed
  06/18/24
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Mildly autistic goal in life
  06/18/24
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Hilarious locale
  06/19/24
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Supple Seedy Becky
  06/19/24
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Cracking french love of her life shitlib
  06/19/24
lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at l...
jet chapel sandwich
  06/18/24
that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some i...
Sadistic round eye
  06/18/24
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abusive kitchen place of business
  06/18/24
Wtf is a summer glau
buff toilet seat
  06/19/24
(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterma...
chocolate philosopher-king ceo
  06/19/24
I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(
arrogant sapphire sneaky criminal library
  06/20/24
Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in tha...
chocolate philosopher-king ceo
  06/20/24
I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where t...
arrogant sapphire sneaky criminal library
  06/20/24
both involve time travel which doesn't fucking work or make ...
nookie licker
  09/01/26
Laughed so hard the first time I saw Davey Scitino talking t...
Richard Ames
  09/01/26
love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies but this...
bateful cordovan gas station
  06/18/24
Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where ev...
abusive kitchen place of business
  06/18/24
yeah, no oh, a robot can put itself back together vs oh, a...
Sadistic round eye
  06/18/24
My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on ...
abusive kitchen place of business
  06/19/24
Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work...
Mauve business firm dog poop
  06/18/24
Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicatin...
bateful cordovan gas station
  06/18/24
lmao just rip off back to the future?
Mauve business firm dog poop
  06/18/24
*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the ga...
Massive flushed church
  06/19/24
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greedy circlehead
  06/19/24
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White deer antler
  06/20/24
im not a phenotype expert like many on the board... but F...
Flirting national
  06/20/24
Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly rui...
Talking Fear-inspiring Range
  06/20/24
I’m gay
Rambunctious generalized bond piazza
  06/18/24
The story is that they were so far behind in resources at th...
Sexy Toaster
  06/18/24
Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his...
soul-stirring ratface
  06/19/24
When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matte...
Aquamarine violent cruise ship
  06/19/24
another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense
soul-stirring ratface
  06/19/24
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turquoise theater
  12/24/25
In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no o...
Twinkling soggy resort
  06/19/24
The second movie actually takes place before the first
White deer antler
  06/20/24
movies that take place only slightly before/after the curren...
soul-stirring ratface
  06/20/24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact
White deer antler
  06/20/24
nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Roa...
soul-stirring ratface
  06/21/24
They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezi...
Fluffy light institution roommate
  06/19/24
they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's m...
soul-stirring ratface
  06/20/24
the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and ...
Flirting national
  06/20/24
Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood...
soul-stirring ratface
  06/20/24
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abusive kitchen place of business
  06/21/24
then why did they even fuck around with cyberdyne? seems li...
nookie licker
  09/01/26


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Date: June 18th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing then randomly decided to raid the cyberdyne lab then happened to drive to a fortuitous steel mill. they were really dumb as shit and got lucky and even then john and sarah ended up as fugitives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47757584)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: chrome swollen half-breed

The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47757934)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: dark slap-happy point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47757940)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Supple Seedy Becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47757946)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: appetizing sound barrier

its basically invincible to physical damage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47757973)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:46 PM
Author: Twinkling soggy resort

It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of very high temperature explosive on it. It ultimately melts in the molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47758301)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: Saffron Box Office

he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after getting frozen and shattered

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/c/c8/800px-T2T-1000glitch-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090320213631

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/t1000_glitch.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759018)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Flirting national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47758073)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000using20thcenturytech.xlsb loaded in his head. one of the rows would have been to break into a steel mill and dump him in a vat of molten metal. they probably could have just gone way out to sea and threw him in the ocean. he'd do something dumb like shapeshift into a shark but then he'd be stuck in the water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759947)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: White deer antler

Giant octopus would do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47760201)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47760946)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: White deer antler

Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there's no way he could avoid chemical impurities IMHO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761930)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Hilarious locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47760192)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: Aromatic hideous market stain

That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you idiot. A very common one too - underdogs up against a seemingly unstoppable enemy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47757978)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Ruddy bespoke pisswyrm base

save it for trivia, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47758072)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: Sadistic round eye

the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridiculous 5,000 year jump in technology to the point of imaginary.

summer glau helped revive it, but only because of her acting and looks

t2 is just a lame fantasy kids movie. t1 was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47758068)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: chrome swollen half-breed

Youre gay, we get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47758269)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: Mildly autistic goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759203)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: Hilarious locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47760193)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: Supple Seedy Becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47760988)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: Cracking french love of her life shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761935)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: jet chapel sandwich

lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at least make the villain as cool as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47758330)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: Sadistic round eye

that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some imaginary freddy krueger robot is not 'cool', it's lame.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47758954)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: abusive kitchen place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759013)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: buff toilet seat

Wtf is a summer glau

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761039)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: chocolate philosopher-king ceo

(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterman*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761132)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: arrogant sapphire sneaky criminal library

I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47763660)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: chocolate philosopher-king ceo

Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in that era sucked at this :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47764275)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: arrogant sapphire sneaky criminal library

I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where the rich boss was a fake before they did the big reveal and for that show they paid for the episodes they just never aired them. Same era I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47764303)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 2:53 PM
Author: nookie licker

both involve time travel which doesn't fucking work or make any sense obviously. may as well make davey scitino be made of liquid metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#50109176)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 3:07 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Laughed so hard the first time I saw Davey Scitino talking to Big Ton'.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#50109200)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: bateful cordovan gas station

love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies

but this one isnt that compelling

bit like the death star shot -- they needed every single circumstance to break their way to stand a chance against invincible villain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47758969)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: abusive kitchen place of business

Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where even after repeated obliteration from small arms and explosives the Terminator is still a threat until they find the fortuitous industrial press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759020)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: Sadistic round eye

yeah, no

oh, a robot can put itself back together vs

oh, a liquid metal imaginary shapeshifter can see, can fix itself, can rejoin, can become anything can...etc

incredibly lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759158)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: abusive kitchen place of business

My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on them getting lucky on being near an industrial factory or whatever

Anyway, when you remember that The Terminator was initially conceived of (and plays out as) a slasher movie, then just think of T-800 as Michael or Jason, and T-1000 as Freddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47760088)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: Mauve business firm dog poop

Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work anyway because the future they came from proved that they didn't die? idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759029)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: bateful cordovan gas station

Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicating a strong chance they failed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759035)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: Mauve business firm dog poop

lmao just rip off back to the future?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759056)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:21 PM
Author: Massive flushed church

*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the gap*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761055)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: greedy circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761078)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: White deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47763081)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: Flirting national

im not a phenotype expert like many on the board...

but Furlong, along with for example Wiley Wiggins from Dazed and Confused...

is an example of this weird type of guy who comes across as cool and charasmatic at about age 13 and then somehow devolves into a wretched loser by the time they are 18, never to return



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47763150)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: Talking Fear-inspiring Range

Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly ruined T2. The fact that it's still watchable is a testament to how freaking sweet the rest of the movie is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47763528)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: Rambunctious generalized bond piazza

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759164)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: Sexy Toaster

The story is that they were so far behind in resources at that point in the future that recycling scraps like arnold was the best they could do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759196)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his cyborg head already except for ways to kill it. more plausible would be that it showed up out of nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47759994)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: Aquamarine violent cruise ship

When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matter if you kill a T1000 or not? They'll just send another T1000 and then another until you die

As someone said, their only hope was go off the grid until judgement day



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761031)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761057)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: turquoise theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#49538001)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: Twinkling soggy resort

In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no one else could go through. That concept was abandoned by the second movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761404)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: White deer antler

The second movie actually takes place before the first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47763086)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

movies that take place only slightly before/after the current year the movie was made are annoying. Road Trip is another example of that and it's confusing that it takes place in like 1996 instead of 1999.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47763094)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: White deer antler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47763774)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Road Trip where they're just a few years off so mailing VHS tapes even tho it was made in 2000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47766102)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: Fluffy light institution roommate

They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezing episode though. And that was well into the movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47761396)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's mexican ranch then instead of coming up with a strategy, Sarah runs off like an idiot to kill Dyson then they parlay that into blowing up Cyberdyne

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47763589)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: Flirting national

the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and over. but then sarah tards out and john decides they're going to go back into danger to save her.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47764266)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: soul-stirring ratface

Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood in T1 says this out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47764288)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: abusive kitchen place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#47766116)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: nookie licker

then why did they even fuck around with cyberdyne? seems like a waste of effort?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2Vannesa#50109169)