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ChatGPT is SPS for drafting legal documents, only useful for emails

Even after feeding it my appeal brief and asking to draft or...
Frozen office telephone
  08/11/25
It is quite FAGGOT at doing any type of legal reasoning. ...
histrionic garrison
  08/11/25
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lime abode
  08/11/25
i finally bit the bullet and upgraded to paid GROK and it's ...
lime abode
  08/11/25
It has the reasoning ability but it makes too many random mi...
Frozen office telephone
  08/11/25
exactly. it does an excellent job with isolated questions...
lime abode
  08/11/25
If you ask it to do anything beyond answer a simple question...
histrionic garrison
  08/11/25
so it's like a person
brass trip sex offender really tough guy
  08/11/25
this also every time I use it I make sure to come in with...
vibrant mad cow disease area
  08/11/25
yeah, it gives a good start to a lot of things. i have a ...
lime abode
  08/11/25
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histrionic garrison
  08/11/25
Like a brilliant associate who works for free but sometimes ...
Dashing unholy pit cuck
  08/11/25
a little prankster who likes to change just one cite out of ...
lime abode
  08/11/25
The judge will love this game!
Dashing unholy pit cuck
  08/11/25
My concern is it will give prole clients the illusion that t...
Frozen office telephone
  08/11/25
they are already doing this - I deal with it all the time
vibrant mad cow disease area
  08/11/25
This is a huge issue in my life
razzle-dazzle wine base
  08/11/25
it's no different than proles coming to you, doctors, etc. w...
lime abode
  08/11/25
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histrionic garrison
  08/11/25
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razzle-dazzle wine base
  08/11/25
You're telling me some gay dude didn't wipe out an entire pr...
Maize Corner
  08/11/25
Case law is a major weakness for it right now. It is better ...
180 orange plaza
  08/11/25
recently i was interested in a speech issue and it hallucina...
lime abode
  08/11/25
I just let it write the arguments with fake cases and then s...
metal shrine
  08/11/25
really need to break things into small chunks, boyos I cr...
citrine self-absorbed black woman
  08/11/25


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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Frozen office telephone

Even after feeding it my appeal brief and asking to draft oral submissions, it produced a half-assed sps product and managed to mis-cite the cases included in the appeal brief. Hopefully by some stroke of luck is lawfags will be saved from AI, or at least be one of the last to get got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175346)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:12 PM
Author: histrionic garrison

It is quite FAGGOT at doing any type of legal reasoning.

It's great at proofreading simple mistakes tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175350)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: lime abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175355)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: lime abode

i finally bit the bullet and upgraded to paid GROK and it's much better. it's less than useless for research and reasoning but does a great job with proofreading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175360)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: Frozen office telephone

It has the reasoning ability but it makes too many random mistakes and hallucinations to be reliable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175379)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:25 PM
Author: lime abode

exactly.

it does an excellent job with isolated questions. especially if you want it create arguments for or against something. it's good to plug in stuff and say "create the best argument against this."

but it sucks at writing an entire thing. and it winds up costing time because you have to go through and find out what it hallucinated or fucked up. works best when tackling bite-sized issues and you just plugging it in yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175398)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: histrionic garrison

If you ask it to do anything beyond answer a simple question it just completely hallucinates bullshit arguments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175410)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:33 PM
Author: brass trip sex offender really tough guy

so it's like a person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175429)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: vibrant mad cow disease area

this

also every time I use it I make sure to come in with all of my case and statute citations beforehand (which I always did when writing a motion etc). However, even when spoon feeding it these things, it tends to paraphrase them too much or even occasionally misinterpret them. I also carefully write out my own facts. But if you feed it your facts, your direct citations and tell it not to paraphrase them, then feed it a general outline of your arguments and sub arguments (and even tell it to come up with additional ones that it sees as necessary), its a good starting place IMO

Did this today with a fairly pain in the ass motion to compel that I need to start on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175412)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: lime abode

yeah, it gives a good start to a lot of things.

i have a session where i had to keep reinforcing *JUST DO GRAMMAR, SPELLING, ETC. DO NOT ALTER CONTENT* and it still fucked with shit sometimes. after a while it stopped.

it's like having an autistic paralegal. you can trust it to do some things really well but some things it will fuck up and you can never completely trust it. rainman, second year associate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175456)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: histrionic garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175491)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Dashing unholy pit cuck

Like a brilliant associate who works for free but sometimes shows up to court and starts cutting his thighs and smearing his own shit on the table

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175695)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: lime abode

a little prankster who likes to change just one cite out of hundreds to a hallucination just to keep you on your toes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175700)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:56 PM
Author: Dashing unholy pit cuck

The judge will love this game!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175709)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Frozen office telephone

My concern is it will give prole clients the illusion that they can DIY, since it confidently spits out an ostensibly cogent output, even if it is riddled with errors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175415)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: vibrant mad cow disease area

they are already doing this - I deal with it all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175437)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle wine base

This is a huge issue in my life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175524)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: lime abode

it's no different than proles coming to you, doctors, etc. with google results. hell, they can go to reddit and get live human answers that are even more fucked up than AI. there's no solution to retards who hire a professional and then second guess them. just say "ok, good luck with that!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175443)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: histrionic garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175493)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:59 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle wine base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175526)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: Maize Corner

You're telling me some gay dude didn't wipe out an entire profession with his weird deviant application of what was basically a search technology developed by Google? That's insane man no way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175744)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: 180 orange plaza

Case law is a major weakness for it right now. It is better at contracts and statutory research, at least for non-obscure issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175765)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: lime abode

recently i was interested in a speech issue and it hallucinated a bunch of SCOTUS precedent despite well know precedent existing.

it's great on black letter law which is why it's smashing the UBE. but don't expect it to find a case or summarize one faithfully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175790)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: metal shrine

I just let it write the arguments with fake cases and then swap in the real cases with a little tailoring. You need to know your own cases anyway so you can respond on your feet effectively in court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175792)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: citrine self-absorbed black woman

really need to break things into small chunks, boyos

I crafted the perfect resume recently and 2x'd my salary in under 3 weeks. Each resume section and subsection was a 500+ word prompt that got refined and perfected into the end product, and cross referenced against deep research reporting. Being lazy with AI is not the answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2Vannesa#49175775)