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Cons, explain why Gavin SHOULDN’T redistrict California

I don’t get the complaint Cruz and others are making h...
Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor
  08/26/25
2 wrongs don't make a right. libs lose all moral high ground...
Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop
  08/26/25
So CA should stand down while Texas moves ahead with redistr...
Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor
  08/26/25
you asked a con for an argument, i presented the con strateg...
Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop
  08/26/25
this isn't 2 wrongs this is 20 dem wrongs to 10 republican ...
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  08/26/25
@grok is this true
massive brass french chef pistol
  08/26/25
this misses the point so hard it doesnt matter who did it m...
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  08/26/25
so your argument applies equally to Texas and they shouldn&r...
Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor
  08/26/25
correct. my argument is that a state should redistrict only ...
Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop
  08/26/25
what are some valid reasons
Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor
  08/26/25
Dunno, but trying to outfox your political opponents is not ...
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  08/26/25
faggot forget about the past! we start taking the high road...
swashbuckling background story toaster
  08/26/25
both sides openly gaming the US political system to get ahea...
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  08/26/25
are you 13? why would you think gerrymandering is 'not a goo...
swashbuckling background story toaster
  08/26/25
Not sure this warrants a serious response. If you don't see ...
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  08/27/25
lol brother nobody cares about this shit anymore. we've been...
Sexy puce theater stage
  08/27/25
people definitely care hence why everyone is maf about polit...
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  08/27/25
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  08/27/25
Agreed we live in Realpolitik world now and have for a while...
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  08/27/25
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Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo
  08/27/25
Texas had the idea first. It's unfair to copy them.
massive brass french chef pistol
  08/26/25
But they’re NOT copying them, they’re doing MORE...
Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor
  08/26/25
VERY unfair
massive brass french chef pistol
  08/26/25
link to more seats? TX got rid of 5 dems, CA is getting rid...
thriller claret azn feces
  08/26/25
Absolutely. Weird how no blue state like illinois, massachus...
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  08/26/25
Ca is already gerrymandered and unrepresentative of gop vote...
onyx learning disabled mad-dog skullcap
  08/26/25
what’s wrong with CA gerrymandering even more though? ...
Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor
  08/26/25
its not, they dont even have geerrymandering they have some ...
cream lay
  08/26/25
that’s not how power grabs work shitskin
Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor
  08/26/25
Every state should do it to maximum effect and it will work ...
Provocative Garrison Mother
  08/26/25
Every blue state already has
razzle new version mediation
  08/26/25
Then every red state should do it. This is so dumb.
Provocative Garrison Mother
  08/26/25
i like it when the jewish controlled party does it but i don...
Sable Concupiscible Patrolman
  08/26/25
do what you wanna do, Gavin
Arousing Spruce Market Coldplay Fan
  08/26/25
They are destroying democratic self-governance by killing th...
french goal in life
  08/26/25
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Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo
  08/27/25
Everybody knows that gerrymandering is wrong.
Vivacious costumed mental disorder
  08/26/25
This argument would 100% win at SCOTUS if only we can get 15...
massive brass french chef pistol
  08/26/25
But really can you explain what this gay back and forth betw...
Provocative Garrison Mother
  08/26/25
Let me introduce you to a concept called kayfabe
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  08/27/25
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  08/27/25
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Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo
  08/27/25
1) its fundementally wrong. the state is disenfranchising it...
Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo
  08/27/25
cr Dems should stand down and just let red states redistrict...
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  10/24/25
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor

I don’t get the complaint Cruz and others are making here

https://x.com/gavinnewsom/status/1959811582869041423?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214141)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop

2 wrongs don't make a right. libs lose all moral high ground by sinking as low as the cons, and the republic is worse for it.

gavin is clearly trying to ape trump, which comes off super hollow when theyve been screeching at this exact behavior for 10 years

end of empire shit. nonody gives a fuck about the Majesty of the Law anymore. Even if dems say repubs started it, they're just as guilty for continuing. Republic a dying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214156)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor

So CA should stand down while Texas moves ahead with redistricting cuz it will make CA look better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214186)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop

you asked a con for an argument, i presented the con strategy. which is losing honorably

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214241)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: swashbuckling background story toaster

this isn't 2 wrongs

this is 20 dem wrongs to 10 republican wrongs trying to make it 11 wrongs (i just made up these numbers, but assume with reasons that dems have done this way more already than cons)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214187)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: massive brass french chef pistol

@grok is this true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214189)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:02 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop

this misses the point so hard

it doesnt matter who did it more or who did it first. wrong is wrong

Am i the only one that gives a fuck about the rules???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214243)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:20 PM
Author: Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor

so your argument applies equally to Texas and they shouldn’t redistrict, but if they do, CA still should not do it?

you also believe that if California does it first Texas should not follow suit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214290)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop

correct. my argument is that a state should redistrict only when there's valid reason to do so, political vengeance not being one because of course your political opponents will do it back and suddenly there's no Rule of Law anymore

Like i said, country going in a shitter RN cons and libs alike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214383)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor

what are some valid reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214395)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop

Dunno, but trying to outfox your political opponents is not one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214408)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: swashbuckling background story toaster

faggot

forget about the past! we start taking the high road today!

...begins losing streak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214625)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop

both sides openly gaming the US political system to get ahead of their opponents is not a good look at all and doesn't bode well for the Rule of Law. soon it won't Mean anything. used to be con's thing at least purpotedly and it's bad that there's no Rule of Law party now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214735)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: swashbuckling background story toaster

are you 13? why would you think gerrymandering is 'not a good look' and soon it won't bode well for the rule of law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214779)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop

Not sure this warrants a serious response. If you don't see why pulling the levers of govt to favor your party (redistricting to make permanent R or D districts) is bad, I'm not sure you understand the "America" thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216975)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Sexy puce theater stage

lol brother nobody cares about this shit anymore. we've been in full on banana republic mode for at least 10 years now and realistically ever since 2008. it just takes a while to fall down the mountain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216077)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo

people definitely care hence why everyone is maf about politics 24/7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216176)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216989)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Chartreuse Razzle-dazzle Fortuitous Meteor Dog Poop

Agreed we live in Realpolitik world now and have for a while, but OP asked for an argument. Just thought I'd put the ol "moral" one out there and see how people react. The derision was entirely expected i assure you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216987)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216164)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: massive brass french chef pistol

Texas had the idea first. It's unfair to copy them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214185)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor

But they’re NOT copying them, they’re doing MORE seats than Texas is doing, which doesn’t seem fair at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214190)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: massive brass french chef pistol

VERY unfair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214192)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: thriller claret azn feces

link to more seats? TX got rid of 5 dems, CA is getting rid of 5 conturds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214447)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:05 PM
Author: razzle new version mediation

Absolutely. Weird how no blue state like illinois, massachusetts, or every other blue state, never thought to gerrymander to increase democrat representation. I guess the only conclusion is that since republican states invented gerrymandering the blue states have no choice but to dabble in this dirty game. Im sure many blue states have a lot of seats to be gained by gerrymandering a la Texas's lead

Congrats Texas! Youve bitten off more than you can chew and now all the blue states are going to follow suit! Cons pwned again!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214254)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: onyx learning disabled mad-dog skullcap

Ca is already gerrymandered and unrepresentative of gop voters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214258)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor

what’s wrong with CA gerrymandering even more though? Why should they be limited to matching what Texas and other red states do? What’s the argument against CA and NY going further with it than red states go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214283)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: cream lay

its not, they dont even have geerrymandering they have some faggy commision that does shit its supposd to be non partisan, u idiots are now arguing that if a party gets 40% of votes they shld get 40% of house seats, thats a novel proposition, apply that to OK, TX, FL etc too then u retards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214442)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 6:38 PM
Author: Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor

that’s not how power grabs work shitskin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214516)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: Provocative Garrison Mother

Every state should do it to maximum effect and it will work itself out that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214284)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: razzle new version mediation

Every blue state already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214623)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:41 PM
Author: Provocative Garrison Mother

Then every red state should do it. This is so dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215534)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: Sable Concupiscible Patrolman

i like it when the jewish controlled party does it but i dont like it when the jewish controlled party does it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214445)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Arousing Spruce Market Coldplay Fan

do what you wanna do, Gavin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214475)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:19 PM
Author: french goal in life

They are destroying democratic self-governance by killing the rightful state of Jefferson in its cradle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214790)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216166)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:20 PM
Author: Vivacious costumed mental disorder

Everybody knows that gerrymandering is wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214794)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:38 PM
Author: massive brass french chef pistol

This argument would 100% win at SCOTUS if only we can get 15-30 of our Beautiful Red States to file a lawsuit asserting it.

But the lib Obama judges are preventing them from even filing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215520)



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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: Provocative Garrison Mother

But really can you explain what this gay back and forth between Texas and California is about. They are both complaining about/threatening to do something that you can find several examples of both sides already doing in spades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215538)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: razzle new version mediation

Let me introduce you to a concept called kayfabe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216061)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:39 AM
Author: hideous drab old irish cottage library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216067)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Arousing Spruce Market Coldplay Fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216168)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216174)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Bossy mind-boggling parlour tattoo

1) its fundementally wrong. the state is disenfranchising its voters. this is close to the actual fascism libs are always whining about

2) as a practical matter it will only deepen partisan gridlock and thus serves only to exacerbate an existing problem out of spite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216171)



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Date: October 24th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Misunderstood Rough-skinned Chapel Rigor

cr Dems should stand down and just let red states redistrict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49372456)



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Date: February 4th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: ''"'''"""'''"''''"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766426&forum_id=2Vannesa#49646731)