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Dems will get emboldened by 2026 victory, overreach, and lose in 2028
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:09 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) Nothing is getting passed over the next 2 years because Trump is POTUS. Many Americans will still chalk this up to Democrats being ineffective, particularly because Dems love to promise BIG CHANGES even if theres no path to accomplishing them.
Trump will act increasingly buffoonishly, and libs won't be able to help themselves from making TDS the focal point of the campaign. After four straight election cycles, and with Trump not on the ballot and the country not the Fourth Reich they said it'd be, this strategy will be ineffective.
Emboldened by 2026 and flowery polls, libs will launch woke 2.0. The primary will be hotly contested and the winner will have run very far to the left to win. This won't be able to be walked back.
The Dem candidate will be Newsom or some other candidate despised in purple states with decades of baggage. They'll try to walk back their woke shit but it'll just come off as insincere, chilling enthusiasm from progressive without capturing many votes from swing voters.
Vance will emerge from the primary relatively unscathed as he'll start with a huge lead and Rubio will drop out quickly. Some insane far-right dark horse will emerge as in third and hang around too long, and Vance will come out looking like a reasonable moderate.
There's also a solid chance Trump dies. If so Vance will win huge. Libs will not be able to resist celebrating, which like the Trump trials in 2024 will mortally outrage the middle and revitalize former trumpmos.
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:26 PM Author: ZoZo Society and Its Future Possible, but I think you are overrating Vance's ability to consolidate support around himself and ignoring the absolute clusterfuck the Republican primary might be. There are like 5 or 6 Con factions at this point and a lot more at least semi popular figures in the party than what the Ds have. I could see 4 to 6 guys all having enough support to hang on deep into the Con primaries. Keep in mind it's not just about winning on the Con side, it's also about increasing your visibility and influence and turning that into $$$, there have been people playing that game in Republican presidential primaries for at least a decade and a half now. Remember Herman Cain? Rick Santorum kept going in 2012 long after his campaign was dead just because Foster Friess was willing to fund the whole thing. That kind of thing seems even easier to do now. One rich guy and a strong social media presence is enough for a real campaign now. Trump had both of those things to himself when he ran, but you don't have to be independently wealthy to have both of those things if one rich guy likes you.
Dems have 3 broad groups, DSA/race communism nuts, core libs, and what's left of the DLC dem/Clintonite/Obama establishment patchwork wing. The third wing pushed through Biden and Clinton, they probably won't be able to pull that trick again. I think they will try to consolidate around some dumpy HR lady type from the middle group (like in Michigan recently) but that person will lose to a charismatic and zesty gay race communist. The only question then is what comes out of the Con primary mess. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) I agree that those are also strong possibilities. I just didn't mention alternative outcomes because that felt like hedging.
I think the biggest risk to JD isn't a large primary, it's walking the razors edge of distancing himself from Trump without invoking his ire. JD has already started on this and Trump has made some catty comments about it. A healthy Trump will still control a sizeable chunk of MAGA boomers and will be able to kingmake, or at least destroy, any candidate he wants. And he'll demand flattery from his chosen heir, which is a real catch 22. His health is a big question mark here. He's noticeably slowed down since 2024. Doesnt look to be in any imminent risk but with his age and BMI things can change in an instant. Best case scenario for Vance is Trump croaks close enough away from the election that voters still care but far enough away that the candidate didn't have to praise him and the very successful Iran war too much |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:54 PM Author: ZoZo Society and Its Future Fair, the core issue probably is how much influence Trump will have over the primary. But that's a different thing than kingmaking people in House races who will serve while you are going to continue to be president.
I think he will be able to explicitly move something like 20 percent of the primary electorate assuming he is alive/sentient, the question will be does the person he chooses have enough support independent of Trump's endorsement to get into the 30-40 range and win against the field (that was all Trump really had in 2016). If he gets strongly behind Vance, yeah Vance probably wins, but Vance is fully capable of fucking that up. If he doesn't? Open season, I don't see 40% of the primary electorate lining up to vote for the Toyota Dealer or Donald Trump Jr.
There's also the possibility that there will be some shiny new thing that people latch on to. 13 years is a long time to control a political party, seems like it is usually about the limit of time. Trump was a joke in 2014, somebody else could catch lightning in a bottle next year and carry it through the primary. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:05 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) Agree 100%. A Tucker but not Tucker would do very well. Toyoyaspic and Vance will never be able to completely distance themselves from Trump and some dark horse that stands for pre-Iran MAGA values would clean up. Especially in the general. Trump will weild power in the primary but in the general the GOP does a great job of lining up and I think MAGA diehards will show up even if Trump trashes a dark horse particularly lf the libs go with someone like AOC.
Same thing could happen with the libs too. All the progressives are saddled with woke baggage but there is a lot of enthusiasm for progressive policies. If a Bernie 2016 type emerges and doesn't have "haha woke 1 was crazy" and COVID French laundry baggage they'll also do well. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:11 PM Author: Iran's hormussy hoovering up ur petrodollaz (Prestige Feuds) It's impossible to predict imo. The political process on both sides will be insane. It's a double civil war. I'm not knocking speculation but I don't personally have a clue what will unfold. There are too many unknowns.
Shapiro thinks JD is a lock. I think he's crazy. He also thinks JD should be more moderate and centrist than Trump. JD is smarter than Shapiro. He knows if you lose the Trump base you lose the ticket.
The problem Democrats have is that they actually are crazy and they want George McGovern. The party will be scrambling to prevent a radical.
I don't know how anything will play out but I will take the field over the favorites right now. Something totally unforeseen is going to happen. Especially on the right. It's going to be a personality. Someone big. Someone will step into the arena out of nowhere. They might not even know today it's going to be them. But it's not going to be anyone we've heard of right now. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:13 PM Author: ZoZo Society and Its Future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064025) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:15 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) Obviously it's too early to tell this is just a fun longshot prediction. Two years is a long time. Not only could a different candidate emerge but we could have a COVID or ITE which dramatically changed how 2008 and 2020 were looking to go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064032) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:12 PM Author: ZoZo Society and Its Future One other thing related to this, I have a strong feeling that Trump will withhold his endorsement initially and watch the whole thing play out. The 2015/2016 primary era was probably the most fun he's ever had in his life. What better way to recreate that than making 10 or 12 people, maybe more, all spend half a year or more attempting to suck your cock for your endorsement.
There are multiple ways that could backfire, but despite that Trump won't endorse right off the bat to effectively consolidate power. He'll turn it into his own little puppet theatre show and offer analysis on the happenings of the primary right from the White House. It'll be funny as fuck and is probably "illegal" for some reason but nobody will do a thing about it other than some stupid crap in Congress and on CNN/MSNow.
All of this is to say that it'll be a long primary, a big audition to him. But people will be forced to make their own choices if that happens, and he might wait until it is too late for his endorsement to get someone over the top. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:21 PM Author: Iran's hormussy hoovering up ur petrodollaz (Prestige Feuds) Trump will definitely 100% try and make it about Trump. Which is why I think this ultimately hurts Vance and Rubio. Harder to distinguish themselves. Meanwhile a James Fishback type can get on the horn and just start spouting. I'm not saying it's going to be James Fishback to be clear.
But it's going to be a warrior. A bold, unafraid warrior. You're not going to win the GOP nomination by being timid or moderate. You have to outtrump Trump to win. Fuentes pointed this out. You have to be a little psycho. No one wants a GOP candidate who is a Nice Guy. You have to say shit like grab em by the pussy. Which actually boosted him. You have to be nuts. You have to the fearless leader. If you don't get people's blood moving you have no shot.
JD fence sitting on Israel is gay. It's a fucking gay platform. To this end Rubio would actually crush him. Rubio can go say I fucking love Donald Trump and I wanted to bomb Iran and I still do. And Israel is the greatest country on Earth, lchaim. It may be a crazy unpopular and indefensible position but it's rock solid and unwavering. Vance is all over the place. He doesn't stand for zip. You can't win a GOP primary as a milquetoast empty suit. Period end of discussion. I will run and do better than Vance. I will spout every nutty opinion I've ever uttered on Zozo no matter how retarded wrong or misguided and people would say well I don't necessarily agree with him but he is AUTHENTIC. And you cannot win if you're not authentic. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:27 PM Author: ZoZo Society and Its Future 100%. Vance is a gigantic fucking pussy who has all the hallmarks of a bad VP to Pres candidate and that is multiplied by the fact that he isn't willing to GO THERE in a primary where people will be looking for that. He has no natural constituency because he attempts to please multiple groups, he's very likely to flop without Trump going hard in for him right off the bat or at least before it's too late. I have doubts on whether Trump will do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064069) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:47 PM Author: Iran's hormussy hoovering up ur petrodollaz (Prestige Feuds) This is exactly why I think Rubio will run. Rubio will play the devoted ally and watch Vance implode. Then he will swoop in. This is maybe why Shapiro is running cover for him. He doesn't want it, he doesn't want it. Shapiro just said no shot Rubio runs. Like you mean to tell me Your Guy who heckin wants to escalate with Iran STILL who is 1000% in the tank for Likud, he's not running? Yeah because why would he haha. You need Vance to appeal to Appalachia. But you, Ben Shapiro wouldn't dream of Lil Marco running. Haha that's preposterous.
Meanwhile, in Washington...
Rubio is a spider on the wall and his time is inevitable. With Trump endorsement, FNC, and all the boomercon voters he's basically inevitable. If they can primary Massie they have to be feeling pretty good about sweeping Vance and Tucker aside. Miriam Adelson is not going to back JD Vance. And that's what matters.
The wildcard isn't Tucker Vance. The wildcard is Nick Fuentes. The Groypers are the opposition. Rubio is the favorite. Vance is DOA. IMOIMO. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:31 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) If Vance resigned over Iran he'd have been a shoe in for 48 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064076) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:40 PM Author: Iran's hormussy hoovering up ur petrodollaz (Prestige Feuds) You think so? I somehow doubt it. The people who resign typically go away forever. I'm thinking Gaetz, MTG, Massie (primaried). When you're out of office ur like a zombie it's over. But I have no idea.
Shapiro says the Tucker Vance coalition is 6% of the party. What does that make groypers like me and Zurich? I don't even know. More or less? I wonder about this every day.
It's funny, PBD asked Shapiro about whether Rubio would run against Vance. I think he will, but Shapiro gamed it out and said in most scenarios it's bad for Marco's political career. It made me think immediately of all the times you knocked the Dems for not running on principle nor understanding why anybody would. It was so slimey and kikeish the way he danced around all the scenarios without ever once talking about principles and ideology.
But this is my hot take. I think if Dems win in 28 everyone, and I mean absolutely everyone associated with Trump 47 is cooked for life. Absolutely cooked for good as a national figure. You remember Michael Anton's book calling 2016 the Flight 93 Election? That we were at a critical inflection point in history and it was all hands on deck? 2028 is the Flight 93 Election. Not necessarily for us. Not for the people. But for the political careers of Trump 47 affiliates. Because if they lose to the Dems, forget about it. No one will want to hear from them ever again. There will be no Long March like Trump in 2020. There will be no time in the desert getting more powerful. Vance and Rubio have one shot at this and if they don't land the plane, buh bye. It's over! |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:53 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) Gaetz and MTG are crazy people and resigned for crazy bullshit not principles. Massie lost, that's not resigning.
People want MAGA 2024. Trump has done a decent job aside from Iran. If Vance resigned on principle no one could doubt his commitment to it. He'd even capture a lot of the left. Populism and socialism have a lot in common and people are eager for someone that will do something, anything for the middle class. A lot of libs would vote for him just because of TDS. And the TDS media wouldn't at least treat him with slme semblance of fairness like it was 2004 levels of lib bias.
I don't think anyone will care about who was on team Trump for long. People have short memories. Little Marco is secretary of state for God's sake. People have goldfish memories. Don't forget that in 2024 you were predicting 1000 year MAGA Reich and libs were done forever. Now you're prepared to vote blue no matter who. I'm not mentioning this as criticism or a call out, only to highlight that if you can go from libs done 4eva to I'm with her in 2 years these DUN HURR predictions might not stand the test of time. For fucks sake, people are thinking HUNTER FUCKING BIDEN is about to become a major political figure. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 5:02 PM Author: Iran's hormussy hoovering up ur petrodollaz (Prestige Feuds) I don't remember ever thinking libs were done forever. An equal number of R and D presidents have won in my lifetime. My dad, who is a lib, however thinks the libs are still in shambles but he doesn't grasp the DSA thing at all. His establishment Clintonian D party probably is getting closer to toast.
I'm too partisan to see any of this through an objective lens. I watch Nick every night and we want Trump 2016 not Trump 2024. I stand by the idea that as much as libs beg for the return of the Romney McCain era of GOP they would never actually vote for them. Which is why I think the whole Tucker Saagar red blue thing wouldn't work. I could be retarded and gay, however. À part ça I have no clue. I am hooked on white nationalism until further notice. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) Absolutely. Trump has the bjggest praise kink of all time. Vivek (briefly) became a national figure out of nowhere purely from sucking his cock enthusiastically.
It's very likely the next two years will go very poorly for Trump and there will not be an Iran resolution. The candidates will have a real tough time weighing whether they its better to kiss the ring and inherit Trump's shit legacy but gain the MAGA boomers or roll the dice.
It's insane what a pivot role Trump has played in everything for a decade now. As much as I want to see him gone I know there will something missing after. Like graduating from HS kr something. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:54 PM Author: Iran's hormussy hoovering up ur petrodollaz (Prestige Feuds) Every boomer GOP voter I know thinks the Iran War is the greatest idea since the invention of wonderbread and they're tripling down on it. It's really psycho. The richard clock types are not well represented. And without the independents, GOP could nominate a candidate who is ultra limited in scope of potential voters. Trump is narrowing the coalition as much as possible. This makes it so the primary is now people who like Trump vs the Revolt. JD is too Trump coded to lead the internal rebellion. He's not Trump coded enough to succeed the regime. It's gotta be something more like Rubio (government) vs Fishback (groyper). And the groypers won't be able to win but they can definitely sink Rubio in the general. It's going to be sheer madness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064137) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: Iran's hormussy hoovering up ur petrodollaz (Prestige Feuds) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063997) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: reluctant liberal artist with good phenotype 2028 presidential election will be decided by AI and whichever political party figures out better messaging about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063892) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:32 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Ossoff is perfectly set up to wipe the floor with either Vance or Rubio and that’s not even accounting for the possibility that Tucker gets in, which goes up if and when the horse race polling shows Ossoff beating both the GOP front runners by 10+. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063916) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:34 PM Author: reluctant liberal artist with good phenotype So true, the political party with 80% unfavorability toward Jews and Israel is going to elect a Jewish male as president in 2028 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063919) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:39 PM Author: sealclubber yes, ossoff. ossoff the charts name recognition ossoff the charts accomplishments ossoff the charts popularity |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063945) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:55 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) A white guy from a purple state without much woke baggage woild be the ideal candidate and would probably win and there's no way libs will be smart enough to nominate him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063979) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:58 PM Author: Craig Niggio I’m sorry, a *WHAT* guy?? 🫠(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063987) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:07 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) A white passing cryptojew at least. Idk much about him, is he an AIPAC Bibi worshiping kike? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064010) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:58 PM Author: Craig Niggio LMAO oh man that was funny tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063985) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 6:34 PM Author: screen memories (ossoff) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064347) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:43 PM Author: ''"'"''"''''"""''' just stopping Trump and republicans from enacting any new legislation for 2 years is enough. that’s all voters are after and the reason Dems are at 90% in the betting markets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50063948) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:19 PM Author: .,.,...,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,.;,.., get off the internet you retarded tranny dork (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064044) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 6:23 PM Author: sealclubber then they should vote for more republicans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064326) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:57 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe "Many Americans will still chalk this up to Democrats being ineffective, particularly because Dems love to promise BIG CHANGES even if theres no path to accomplishing them."
Didn't happen in 2018-2020 and Trump is even less popular now. Also didn't happen to the GOP in 2014-2016 and 2022-2024 or the dems in 2006-2008. The admin in power is almost always blamed for whatever problems there are. Here's my prediction: economy same as now=2020 narrow dem win; better economy than now=2024 GOP win; economy worse than now in 2028=2008 dem win. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:20 PM Author: .,.,...,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,.;,.., you both fart cum and talk out of your asshole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064046) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:25 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) Trump was ahead in polling before COVID struck.
Americans vote based on vibes. Ultimately the election will likely turn on the economic conditions in 2028. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 5:06 PM Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad I find the DSA fascinating. They're campaigning on putting dollars in your pocket. Isn't that what Trump did with his tax cuts? Everyone got a tax cut.
In my mid 40s I've watched many a movement promise the sky and to change Washington, get elected, roll into town, and nothing ever changes.
Economic feelings are difficult to gauge. We had worse inflation under Biden but the Democrats protected him and didn't vote for the GOP. We have inflation now but it's not as bad as it was, but the same Democrats who protected Biden are now attacking Trump for inflation. And vice versa. I guess it all comes down to who's more hypocritically motivated in November. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 6:29 PM Author: sealclubber are they doing basic income? i thought the schtick is not cash, but shit, shit, and more shit. endless gifts from the government to you oh, and no incarceration and no cops and no borders |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad When Trump won in 2024, told myself the Dems would win the 26 midterms, overreach, and GOP wins in 28. Tracking well so far.
Like to watch Halperin. He's obsessed with his top 8 potential Dem nominee ranking. I laugh at it because it's as silly as US News college rankings. End of the day the nominee will be one of the following three: Newsom, Harris, or Ossoff.
Newsom is deeply flawed, enormous baggage from California, and is the Romney of the Democrats. The electorate does not like rich people. Newsom is rich. This isn't Trump's vulgar used car salesman rich, but genuine establishment rich that oozes out of every hair pore. He's culturally rich in a way Trump is not and will never be and the electorate will never warm up to him. The DSA will hate his guts even more than the GOP. He will be defeated by Vance.
Harris will sell herself as the bridge between the moderates and the DSA, which is shown in every act she takes. The most loyal voting bloc in America are black Democrats, especially black women. They will turn out for Harris and this risks an ugly civil war between the Harris / establishment faction and the DSA factions. But she may succeed because black voters are the moderate Democrats these days. If Clyburn and the black voters make their preference clear, the establishment will have no choice but to back Harris. And she will go on to lose again. Because she is unintelligent.
Ossoff is the blank slate to watch. He is intentionally and deliberately a blank slate. A Dem senator from a once solidly red state, shows strong crossover appeal among moderates who like that he is a blank slate. He has no record, just like Obama in 2008, who made sure he had no record from his Illinois days. He's good looking in an approachable way (unlike Newsom, who is both handsome and oleaginous). Yes, he is Jewish but he's not the Jewish of Josh Shapiro, allowing the antisemitic Democrats to vote for him to prove they aren't, in fact, anti-semites. He is the youngest of the three by a good margin and the electorate is tired of old people. If Ossoff can navigate the DSA without turning them off or becoming a target for them, he will get the nomination. Do not underestimate Ossoff. And he will beat Vance.
All in all, sorry Halperin, but the real ranking is:
1. Ossoff 2. Harris 3. Newsom
There is no point talking about anyone else.
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Date: August 12th, 2026 5:05 PM Author: Iran's hormussy hoovering up ur petrodollaz (Prestige Feuds) Where is the evidence Dems will EVER go for a white guy again? Look at the Maine senate dood. White men are extremely foreign to Dems. It's hard to imagine them voting for a guy who is so against everything they believe in (ie being a white guy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064161) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 6:29 PM Author: reluctant liberal artist with good phenotype (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064337) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 6:29 PM Author: reluctant liberal artist with good phenotype this is the most "gen-x" post i've ever seen that wasn't tongue-in-cheek cowgod shtick
somebody throw up the cowgod bat signal jfc |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 6:26 PM Author: 60 year old retarded jewish pedophile ((zurich is stained)) will vance be the first president with a made up first name and made up last name? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2most#50064335) |