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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Olive coffee pot house
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
High-end locus
  12/16/25
18000
Olive coffee pot house
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Demanding Contagious Tank Address
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
High-end locus
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Demanding Contagious Tank Address
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
High-end locus
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Demanding Contagious Tank Address
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Olive coffee pot house
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
High-end locus
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Demanding Contagious Tank Address
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
High-end locus
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Demanding Contagious Tank Address
  12/17/25
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Olive coffee pot house
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High-end locus
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
marvelous casino tattoo
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
High-end locus
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marvelous casino tattoo
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Floppy judgmental plaza
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
High-end locus
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Brass Aphrodisiac Messiness
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
High-end locus
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Hyperventilating swollen center
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High-end locus
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Olive coffee pot house
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
offensive wrinkle gunner
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
razzle death wish persian
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High-end locus
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offensive wrinkle gunner
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Olive coffee pot house
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Olive coffee pot house
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Demanding Contagious Tank Address
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Pea-brained Rebellious Pistol Boiling Water
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Olive coffee pot house



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: High-end locus

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Olive coffee pot house

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Demanding Contagious Tank Address

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: High-end locus

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Demanding Contagious Tank Address

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: High-end locus

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Demanding Contagious Tank Address

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Olive coffee pot house

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: High-end locus

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Demanding Contagious Tank Address

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: High-end locus

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Demanding Contagious Tank Address

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Olive coffee pot house



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: High-end locus



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: marvelous casino tattoo

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: High-end locus

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: marvelous casino tattoo



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Floppy judgmental plaza

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: High-end locus

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Brass Aphrodisiac Messiness

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: High-end locus

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Hyperventilating swollen center

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: High-end locus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Olive coffee pot house



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: offensive wrinkle gunner

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: razzle death wish persian

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: High-end locus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: offensive wrinkle gunner



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Olive coffee pot house



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Olive coffee pot house



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Demanding Contagious Tank Address

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Pea-brained Rebellious Pistol Boiling Water

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515738)