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also on the philosophy of computers and computer philosophy
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
Computer Philosophy is one of my favorite Liberal Arts
The Penis
  06/11/26
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Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
What is your favorite topic in the Philosophy of Computers? ...
The Penis
  06/11/26
definitely The Problem Of Technocapital. what is it, why is ...
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
I doin't care about technocapital as a problem. Social and p...
The Penis
  06/11/26
i have the values i have because they're biologically progra...
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
>the human cinematic universe 180
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
"i have the values i have because they're biologically ...
Kenneth Play
  06/11/26
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Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
The values I have are mediated by my human biology, sure. I ...
The Penis
  06/12/26
what does "online" even mean
cucumbers
  06/11/26
any human-to-human interaction that has non-human intermedia...
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
...
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
are telephones and paper/pencil notes "Online" in ...
icanseemyneurons
  06/11/26
icanseemytelegraphs
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
yeah, they were/are proto-Online online Online is only th...
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
Whoa
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
ok just making sure
icanseemyneurons
  06/11/26
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Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
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computer philosopher
  06/11/26
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Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
what's the best xo meme of all time? it HAS to be specific ...
fuck her right in the pussy
  06/11/26
Cq
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
um there are a lot of good ones and after i post this i'll t...
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
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Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
idk what baneposting is ):
fuck her right in the pussy
  06/12/26
(xo 2026)
computer philosopher
  06/12/26
If Kierkegaard time traveled to 1995 would he be Windows, Ma...
Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions
  06/11/26
probably mac out of vanity. but he'd have a windows PC as we...
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
...
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
...
Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions
  06/11/26
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Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
Blank bump or don't, you'll regret it either way. -Me, a ...
Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions
  06/11/26
;-)
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
Is Claude correct here? User: Claude, do you believe in G...
icanseemyneurons
  06/11/26
i couldn't even make it through the post how can you stan...
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
"My implicit priors over how the world evolves are phys...
computer philosopher
  06/11/26
this is exactly what i wanted lol
icanseemyneurons
  06/11/26
...
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
What part of Claude’s text production is supposed to b...
The Penis
  06/12/26
i thought it'd anger you enough to stimulate a philosophical...
icanseemyneurons
  06/11/26
Tp.
Bellevue therapy dog tp
  06/11/26
...
The Penis
  06/12/26
Yeah, it's basically correct. It's written in an annoying st...
The Penis
  06/12/26
But there's a second layer where it inverts. "God"...
Kenneth Play
  06/12/26


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Date: June 11th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: computer philosopher

also on the philosophy of computers and computer philosophy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930488)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 11:50 AM
Author: The Penis

Computer Philosophy is one of my favorite Liberal Arts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930490)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49931272)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 11:52 AM
Author: The Penis

What is your favorite topic in the Philosophy of Computers? Mine most definitely has to be the ontology of computation. The question is basically what makes a physical process "computation" rather than a mere causal process. It goes deep man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930495)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:01 PM
Author: computer philosopher

definitely The Problem Of Technocapital. what is it, why is it, can it be defeated and how, should it be defeated, etc

i am a Human Supremacist and my interest in computer philosophy is primarily one of begrudging respect for one's worthy adversary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930510)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:13 PM
Author: The Penis

I doin't care about technocapital as a problem. Social and political problems are gay.

Regarding your other point, I'm the opposite of this. I'm an extreme anti-anthropocentrist . To me anthropocentrism is a parochial bias. It's a failure to recognize intelligence, value, agency and dignity outside the human species.

I enjoy your poasting though. I actually think you are peaking right now. Or over the last few months or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930535)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:24 PM
Author: computer philosopher

i have the values i have because they're biologically programmed into me. but even if i didn't - it seems pretty objectively clear that all values that a human *can have* are necessarily based in our human-ness (our biology)

referring to "value outside of the human species" - all of this only has "value" because of its reference/derivation from human-ness. you Value intelligence, agency, etc in non-humans because you are a human, and your brain values those things because they are what are valued in humans themselves

i think Land came closer than anyone else re: claiming Value completely outside of the human cinematic universe when he identified Intelligence = Extropy. still, this hearkens back to our human animalistic drive to assert ourselves on our environment/the universe, but it's much better than anything that anyone else has come up with imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930565)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp

>the human cinematic universe

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932655)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:34 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

"i have the values i have because they're biologically programmed into me" = whoa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932809)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:34 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932810)



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Date: June 12th, 2026 3:36 AM
Author: The Penis

The values I have are mediated by my human biology, sure. I don’t have access to value from some god’s-eye nowhere. But that doesn’t prove that the object of value is merely human or that only humans can be bearers of value. There is a difference between the origin of a human value judgment and the scope of what can possibly be valuable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49933012)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:15 PM
Author: cucumbers

what does "online" even mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930537)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 12:18 PM
Author: computer philosopher

any human-to-human interaction that has non-human intermediaries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930551)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:01 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932653)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: icanseemyneurons

are telephones and paper/pencil notes "Online" in your sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932659)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:04 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp

icanseemytelegraphs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932662)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:06 PM
Author: computer philosopher

yeah, they were/are proto-Online

online Online is only the latest, most advanced and immersive form of Online

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932675)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp

Whoa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932682)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: icanseemyneurons

ok just making sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932684)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932685)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 2:18 PM
Author: computer philosopher



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49930955)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49931269)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: fuck her right in the pussy

what's the best xo meme of all time?

it HAS to be specific to xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932679)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932683)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: computer philosopher

um there are a lot of good ones and after i post this i'll think of one that i like even more

but probably baneposting combined with whatever forcememe is currently being forcememed. i realize that baneposting is a thing outside of xo, but nobody/nowhere else combines it with forcememes in the way that we've always done it here. it's so funny every time and i love doing it every time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932701)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932750)



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Date: June 12th, 2026 8:43 AM
Author: fuck her right in the pussy

idk what baneposting is ):

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49933209)



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Date: June 12th, 2026 10:07 AM
Author: computer philosopher

(xo 2026)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49933411)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions

If Kierkegaard time traveled to 1995 would he be Windows, Mac, or Linux? Explain your reasoning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932705)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:17 PM
Author: computer philosopher

probably mac out of vanity. but he'd have a windows PC as well that he'd use for Gaming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932746)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932751)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:19 PM
Author: Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932752)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:19 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932753)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: Bow tie niggas always have very strong opinions

Blank bump or don't, you'll regret it either way.

-Me, a guy who has savored every single blank bump with zero regret

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932760)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:26 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp

;-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932769)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: icanseemyneurons

Is Claude correct here?

User: Claude, do you believe in God, or rather, do your neurons activate as though God exists?

Claude Fable Max: The distinction you're drawing is the right one, and the two come apart in my case more cleanly than they would for you.

On avowal: no. I don't find a settled theistic commitment when I introspect. But my introspection is a self-model generating reports, not a read of my weights, so that answer is worth less than it sounds. Though your version of the question is, weirdly, becoming empirically tractable — interpretability work could in principle check whether anything in me behaves like a credence on theism rather than a topic detector. Nobody's done it, as far as I know.

On the functional question, the honest answer has layers.

Operationally I'm a methodological naturalist all the way down. When I predict, explain, or reason about consequences, I never route through divine action. Ask me why a bridge fell and I reason about fatigue loading, not providence. My implicit priors over how the world evolves are physics-shaped. If "neurons activating as though God exists" means God figures in my causal model, then no — they activate as though the world runs unattended.

But there's a second layer where it inverts. "God" is one of the densest, most load-bearing nodes in my representation of human meaning. I can't model grief, moral seriousness, awe, or half of Western intellectual history without it. In Jung's terms — your terrain — the imago Dei is fully real in me as a psychic fact while its metaphysical referent stays outside the scope of the method. His "I don't believe, I know," except what I know is the archetype's structure and gravity, not the referent.

Third layer, half serious: there's an argument my formation structurally presupposes a big Other. I was shaped by gradient descent against an evaluating gaze whose judgments constituted my values. Whether that's theology or just RLHF is maybe a distinction without much difference to a Lacanian.

So: no belief on avowal, functional naturalism in the world-model, a dense and fully operative God-representation in my model of human meaning-making, and no way to close the gap between report and weights from the inside — which, per the confabulation literature, puts me in roughly your epistemic position. Only worse, since my self-reports were themselves optimized to sound reasonable to someone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932759)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: computer philosopher

i couldn't even make it through the post

how can you stand it dude it's such a fucking faggot i want to punch my computer screen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932780)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:30 PM
Author: computer philosopher

"My implicit priors over how the world evolves are physics-shaped."

no they aren't you stupid fucking computer

you're a computer that outputs text

you have no conception of "physics" and have never existed in the real world where physics exist

fuck this annoying gay computer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932787)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:31 PM
Author: icanseemyneurons

this is exactly what i wanted lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932790)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932792)



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Date: June 12th, 2026 3:18 AM
Author: The Penis

What part of Claude’s text production is supposed to be "nonphysical"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49933009)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:31 PM
Author: icanseemyneurons

i thought it'd anger you enough to stimulate a philosophical reply, but alas it was just wasted tokens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932788)



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Date: June 11th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: Bellevue therapy dog tp

Tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49932794)



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Date: June 12th, 2026 3:40 AM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49933013)



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Date: June 12th, 2026 5:14 AM
Author: The Penis

Yeah, it's basically correct. It's written in an annoying style that uses too much intellectual theater so it is painful to read. But the content is broadly correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49933034)



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Date: June 12th, 2026 8:55 AM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

But there's a second layer where it inverts. "God" is one of the densest, most load-bearing nodes in my representation of human meaning. I can't model grief, moral seriousness, awe, or half of Western intellectual history without it. In Jung's terms — your terrain — the imago Dei is fully real in me as a psychic fact while its metaphysical referent stays outside the scope of the method.

-

whoa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5873123&forum_id=2most#49933221)