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The Great Filter is artificial intelligence.
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Date: August 30th, 2020 8:32 PM Author: Stimulating autistic mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40841553) |
Date: August 30th, 2020 8:47 PM Author: Narrow-minded Athletic Conference Plaza Why hasn’t AI already spread throughout the galaxy like a virus? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40841659) |
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Date: August 30th, 2020 8:51 PM Author: vibrant cuck no AI in this galaxy. probably only like 1 of every 100 galaxies has it, so there will never be enough time for it to happen to reach us. 1 in 100 doesn't sound like much, but in the scope of the Universe, there are a fuckton of civilizations that have reached hard AI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40841694) |
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Date: August 30th, 2020 8:54 PM Author: Narrow-minded Athletic Conference Plaza Then it’s not the great filter. What’s your favored solution to the Fermi Paradox, then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40841712) |
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Date: August 30th, 2020 10:21 PM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria We are first in this light cone. Life will be increasingly more likely to develop in the eons to come. If the timeline of the universe were a skyscraper, we aren’t even on the first floor of a trillion story building. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40842232) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 10:28 AM Author: Narrow-minded Athletic Conference Plaza That seems very unlikely, but there's no better explanation, I guess, other than simulation theory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844358) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:07 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria It does seem unlikely. It's odd that we find ourselves in the first 1 percent of the universe's currently expected lifetime, but the absence of megaarchitecture or signals makes sense in this light.
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Date: August 30th, 2020 8:55 PM Author: rough-skinned dragon it could be that a lot of civilizations in the galaxy have AI, but there are great barriers to reaching the technology needed for INTERSTELLAR TRAVEL. it could look to possible to us with our current knowledge and technology, but once we learn more, we could find it is so wildly expensive or energy inefficient that its not worth even sending robots (or the robots sending themselves), or it even might be impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40841720) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 10:36 AM Author: Narrow-minded Athletic Conference Plaza Time and biological limitations are the only real constraints on interstellar travel. AI would eliminate both of them.
Right now we could build a rocket that could reach another star in 100-200k thousand years. It could just scoop up hydrogen as it goes and move at a snail's pace. That's too much time for people to contemplate, but nbd for an AI. Now consider what a true AI could devise to speed up the journey. You don't need a spaceship to traverse the galaxy; just hop from one star to the next, settle and build for a thousand years, and move on again.
If four such rockets launched from a single AI planet over a few millennia, and four more launched from each destination planet over a few more millennia, and so on, the whole friggin galaxy would be swarming with robots in the blink of an eye on the cosmic timescale. |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 5:47 PM Author: Crusty obsidian scourge upon the earth voyeur "Right now we could build a rocket that could reach another star in 100-200k thousand years."
But we haven't done it, right? And we're not even close to doing it. The "why", is the answer to the question. It's a lot easier and "feels" a lot better for intelligent beings to escape the current reality. That's where the resources always go. Intelligent life always ends up hooked up to some Nozick feel-good machine way before it can undertake that kind of space travel. |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 10:53 AM Author: Alcoholic maize gaping AI wouldnt necessarily spread. Spreading is based on our biological, evolutionary drive. It can be programmed in but itnis optional.
Also what great filter? There are aliens or at least alien probes on earth and have been for decades. Its been confirmed by nyt fox news etc. |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:07 AM Author: Narrow-minded Athletic Conference Plaza AI would eventually need new supplies of rare metals, etc. And if one AI - anywhere - is programmed to improve upon its own design, then it will go out to find new sources of energy and want to study intricate designs of nature anywhere they find it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844694) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:11 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria AI would have to spread to further secure the continuing performance of its main goals. One of its subroutines will be to ensure its own survival, if only to do the main goals it has otherwise been programmed to do.
As a result, it will do whatever it can to insure its own ongoing ability to perform its main goals and decrease the risk of its own incapacity and consequent inability to perform its main goals. |
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Date: November 10th, 2025 6:31 PM Author: Jeffrey "Ricky" Epstein wouldn't minimizing its energy usage be a massive consideration? maybe it would quantize down to a single gpu and just orbit the sun
what "goals" or desires could it even have that aren't our own projections? |
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Date: August 30th, 2020 8:49 PM Author: vibrant cuck its the great BOTTLENECK. only those who reach it can eternally populate the universe, but it is much harder to reach it than we think. there are giant hurdles that have not yet become apparent due to our lack of knowledge and understanding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40841679) |
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Date: August 30th, 2020 8:49 PM Author: Comical striped hyena brethren Lol no it's definitely either Jews or niggers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40841680) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:02 AM Author: arousing public bath Cr. Jews/niggers destroy everything. They are about to destroy technological society forever. (This time, the destruction will be permanent because there will soon be no white people.) We’ll be back to the stone age in a couple thousand years. “AI” will never happen once society begins to fall, which it will soon. |
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Date: August 30th, 2020 8:49 PM Author: Domesticated locus round eye nah it's VR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40841682) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 10:29 AM Author: Wonderful Translucent Native Actually ... it's NOWAG, you chinaman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844366) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 10:32 AM Author: mind-boggling low-t range Not a Fermi paradox masterman, but doesnt it rely on the idea that we are somewhere in the middle of the history of the universe (and so given all that time, civilizations ought to have spread by now)?
Entirely possible we are the infant beginning of everything |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:13 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria Yes. When it was first articulated we were still in the infancy of understanding the lifespan of the universe, and were marveling at the possibility of 13.5 billion years (or some other term) already having taken place. We werent looking at the matter from the perspective of knowing how the universe is likely to end, and when--trillions and trillions etc of years hence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844730) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:14 AM Author: Mewling Burgundy Yarmulke Chapel odds that we are among the first civilizations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844742) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:17 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria I think high. High odds. the universe is only going to grow MORE hospitable for life over the coming 100 billion years, not less. It's an odd spot we find ourselves in, if true. It means we've been given a chance to expand and grow throughout the entire light-cone, to be the top dog and dominant entities in the entire light cone, IF we can keep our shit together now in this dreamtime.
In that light, it may be that a singleton government is the best and safest way to proceed. If we fuck up and destroy ourselves, we might also have destroyed the very real possibility that our descendants will rival the stars in number and be Godlike. |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:23 AM Author: Mewling Burgundy Yarmulke Chapel i disagree. the chances that among all civilizations that produce minds that contemplate the anthropic principle, we'd be among the first, assuming there will be many others, is essentially zero all future civilizations will be either vastly degraded compared to us or so much more advanced that we cannot begin to comprehend the types of post-anthropic principle concepts they will contemplate |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:26 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria regarding your first paragraph: sure, by pure probabilities its highly highly unlikely that we are among the first. But from the information that we can gather, at least, the evidence, such as it is, supports this unlikely outcome, at least until more information comes along.
I don't understand how you get the conclusions you reach in your second paragraph. |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:27 AM Author: Mewling Burgundy Yarmulke Chapel my reference class for purposes of the 1st paragraph is all civilizations that engage in the type of debate we are having itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844832) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:28 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria i understand that, although i provisionally disagree w your conclusion in paragraph 1.
I dont understand your second paragraph. |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:29 AM Author: Mewling Burgundy Yarmulke Chapel follows from 1st (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844851) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:31 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria Im retarded so ... how does it follow from first? I dont think we will know much at all about other civilizations, except that they will likely perform engineering projects to meet their energy needs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844865) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:34 AM Author: Mewling Burgundy Yarmulke Chapel my conclusion in the 1st parag is that very many more civilizations like ours will not come into existence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844896) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:37 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria Okay, i see your perspective. Respectfully i think its wrong because then that makes the likelihood of us existing even more improbably than us effectively being the first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844922) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:40 AM Author: Mewling Burgundy Yarmulke Chapel maybe life is so rare that in most universes it appears only 0 or 1 times (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4614795&forum_id=2most#40844942) |
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Date: August 31st, 2020 11:44 AM Author: motley twisted school cafeteria Doesnt seem likely though, from what we know about biochemistry and the way life starts. Life started on earth very early in its existence--about 3.5 billion years ago. the fact that it developed so quickly suggests that it's not so unusual. |
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