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We have to have a large welfare state. Get over it.

Globalization and new tech has made a lot of workers obsolet...
Wine Kitty Cat
  08/12/12
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Concupiscible indirect expression sanctuary
  08/12/12
Thank you, at least someone in this dump is up to speed.
Learning Disabled Queen Of The Night Station
  08/12/12
Neoliberal alert, neoliberal alert
Sepia Pea-brained House Useless Brakes
  08/12/12
what steps are we going to take to reduce the birth rates of...
Vermilion Twinkling Uncleanness Location
  08/12/12
Dems try to make abortion freely available and that actually...
Wine Kitty Cat
  08/12/12
*have made
know-it-all clear trump supporter lodge
  08/17/12
killself
Wine Kitty Cat
  08/17/12
no u. this is a prestigious law board. u clearly don't belon...
know-it-all clear trump supporter lodge
  08/17/12
no, seriously, killself
Wine Kitty Cat
  08/17/12
sorry, i don't engage in conversation with uneducated peasan...
know-it-all clear trump supporter lodge
  08/17/12
i went to hyp and hys aspie. not everyone proofreads posts o...
Wine Kitty Cat
  08/17/12
superior anglo culture
nyuug
  02/18/26
BUT WE CANT AFFORD IT SOCIAL SECURITY WILL BANKRUPT US JUS...
overrated mediation generalized bond
  08/12/12
Holy shit, this is credited. It is a phenomenally simple id...
Transparent misanthropic native place of business
  08/12/12
many don't get neoliberalism.
Sepia Pea-brained House Useless Brakes
  08/12/12
Everyone grasps it, dummy. It's just empirically false.
Excitant Grizzly Nursing Home
  08/12/12
Why do we need to maintain them? Just let them go unemplo...
Curious hideous brethren
  08/12/12
without them, who will buy things?
Sepia Pea-brained House Useless Brakes
  08/12/12
Current economic models based on supply and demand will be c...
Curious hideous brethren
  08/12/12
this demand view of the economy is pretty stupid. these peop...
Vermilion Twinkling Uncleanness Location
  08/12/12
...
Maize menage pervert
  08/12/12
mfcr
Curious hideous brethren
  08/12/12
Foreigners. We need to return to being a net export country....
Cracking ladyboy bawdyhouse
  08/22/12
where are we on this?
nyuug
  02/18/26
(Marie Antoinette)
electric point
  08/12/12
Not everyone is as morally repulsive as you. I believe in th...
Wine Kitty Cat
  08/12/12
Do you fully believe that a largely bedridden 85 year-old, p...
Curious hideous brethren
  08/12/12
I don't believe in functionally useless end of life care, bu...
Wine Kitty Cat
  08/12/12
Link to poor people reproducing less.
Galvanic Self-centered Hairy Legs Deer Antler
  08/12/12
One of the main reasons that nigger girls in the projects sp...
Curious hideous brethren
  08/12/12
What about poor countries where there is no welfare but poor...
Galvanic Self-centered Hairy Legs Deer Antler
  08/12/12
I agree, bro, which is why of all government-funded healthca...
Curious hideous brethren
  08/12/12
poor people in america are able to get enough nutrition to s...
Vermilion Twinkling Uncleanness Location
  08/12/12
>in a world in which they received no support from their ...
Galvanic Self-centered Hairy Legs Deer Antler
  08/12/12
you assume we need a middle class at all.
ruby new version stock car
  08/12/12
LET THEM EAT CAKE!
Sepia Pea-brained House Useless Brakes
  08/12/12
s..o e..d...g........y
overrated mediation generalized bond
  08/12/12
This is a silly fucking thing to say. The alternative is peo...
geriatric legal warrant
  08/12/12
not only basic necessities but also frivolities + the appear...
ruby new version stock car
  08/12/12
This is correct. Mobility need not really exist, but the ap...
geriatric legal warrant
  08/12/12
So the conservative responses in this thread are 1. Let them...
Wine Kitty Cat
  08/12/12
REMINDER: All XO conservatards are poors arguing for their o...
misunderstood racy gas station rigpig
  08/12/12
I fall into this trap sometimes. It's a pretty credited sui...
Galvanic Self-centered Hairy Legs Deer Antler
  08/12/12
I might be a "poor" by absolute monetary standards...
Excitant Grizzly Nursing Home
  08/12/12
but way too pussy to say this in political advertisements
bearded self-absorbed private investor foreskin
  08/12/12
The real response is that OP is just factually incorrect. Pe...
Excitant Grizzly Nursing Home
  08/12/12
VENDOR! my party will have 15 of your meatpies, for I hear t...
geriatric legal warrant
  08/12/12
lol poor people, just lol
startled set voyeur
  08/12/12
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Wine Kitty Cat
  08/13/12
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Wine Kitty Cat
  08/17/12
Solid thread
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  08/17/12
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Wine Kitty Cat
  08/22/12


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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat

Globalization and new tech has made a lot of workers obsolete. We need a welfare state to maintain the middle class, and that's all there is to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324206)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: Concupiscible indirect expression sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324211)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Queen Of The Night Station

Thank you, at least someone in this dump is up to speed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324212)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: Sepia Pea-brained House Useless Brakes

Neoliberal alert, neoliberal alert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324239)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: Vermilion Twinkling Uncleanness Location

what steps are we going to take to reduce the birth rates of these unnecessary people? we shouldn't support them only to perpetuate this shitty situation into the next generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324251)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat

Dems try to make abortion freely available and that actually does a lot of work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324292)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:14 AM
Author: know-it-all clear trump supporter lodge

*have made

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21358746)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:15 AM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21358747)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:22 AM
Author: know-it-all clear trump supporter lodge

no u. this is a prestigious law board. u clearly don't belong here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21358769)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:31 AM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat

no, seriously, killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21358799)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: know-it-all clear trump supporter lodge

sorry, i don't engage in conversation with uneducated peasants so this will be my last post to you. do yourself a favor and at least get a GED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21358840)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat

i went to hyp and hys aspie. not everyone proofreads posts on xo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21358844)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: nyuug

superior anglo culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#49679303)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 9:59 PM
Author: overrated mediation generalized bond

BUT WE CANT AFFORD IT

SOCIAL SECURITY WILL BANKRUPT US

JUST LIKE ANY FAMILY, AMERICA NEEDZ TO SIT DOWN AT ARE KITCHEN TABLE AND CREATE A BALANCED BUDGET

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324229)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:00 PM
Author: Transparent misanthropic native place of business

Holy shit, this is credited. It is a phenomenally simple idea but so many can't grasp it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324232)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: Sepia Pea-brained House Useless Brakes

many don't get neoliberalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324242)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Excitant Grizzly Nursing Home

Everyone grasps it, dummy. It's just empirically false.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324333)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:01 PM
Author: Curious hideous brethren

Why do we need to maintain them?

Just let them go unemployed and die off.

Just do cream of the crop crossing into a new stage of human evolution, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324248)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: Sepia Pea-brained House Useless Brakes

without them, who will buy things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324256)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: Curious hideous brethren

Current economic models based on supply and demand will be completely obsolete in 50 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324265)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Vermilion Twinkling Uncleanness Location

this demand view of the economy is pretty stupid. these people are unproductive. giving them our money so they can buy things from us does not put us in a better situation. keynesian policy is intended to be a short-term policy, not a long-term one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324318)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: Maize menage pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324364)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Curious hideous brethren

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324387)



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Date: August 22nd, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: Cracking ladyboy bawdyhouse

Foreigners. We need to return to being a net export country. And "things" will increasing turn into services rather than manufactured goods unless we can dismantle the NLRB and end the 'welfare state is a given' premise. We can no longer rely on self-sustaining domestic demand for American goods and services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21395465)



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Date: February 18th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: nyuug

where are we on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#49679306)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: electric point

(Marie Antoinette)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324269)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat

Not everyone is as morally repulsive as you. I believe in the singularity but I also believe in caring for other people. Go fuck yourself. That said, social stability would collapse without the welfare state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324272)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: Curious hideous brethren

Do you fully believe that a largely bedridden 85 year-old, pumped full of 10 different pharmaceuticals and hooked up to an oxygen tank, spending her days reading Home & Garden and watching The Price is Right and WE BUY GOLD commercials is as inherently valuable as you?

To society? To humanity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324302)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat

I don't believe in functionally useless end of life care, but info believe that providing everyone with decent medical care is a great moral good. Whether or not someone is as "valuable" as I am doesn't enter into it for me, I care about other people for their own sake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324319)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:04 PM
Author: Galvanic Self-centered Hairy Legs Deer Antler

Link to poor people reproducing less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324283)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: Curious hideous brethren

One of the main reasons that nigger girls in the projects spawn so much is that it directly bumps their welfare check. They literally dropout of HS, get knocked up on purpose, and live in the projects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324313)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Galvanic Self-centered Hairy Legs Deer Antler

What about poor countries where there is no welfare but poors still manage to pump out babby after babby? This is not just a US or rich world phenomenon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324327)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: Curious hideous brethren

I agree, bro, which is why of all government-funded healthcare goods, widespread birth control is the one I would be happy to subsidize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324336)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:11 PM
Author: Vermilion Twinkling Uncleanness Location

poor people in america are able to get enough nutrition to still be fertile. in a world in which they received no support from their betters, this would not be the case.

controlling the hungry masses might be difficult though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324348)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: Galvanic Self-centered Hairy Legs Deer Antler

>in a world in which they received no support from their betters, this would not be the case.

Lol no. Look at any underdeveloped country. They still reproduce at an alarming rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324372)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: ruby new version stock car

you assume we need a middle class at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324276)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: Sepia Pea-brained House Useless Brakes

LET THEM EAT CAKE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324295)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: overrated mediation generalized bond

s..o

e..d...g........y

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324304)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: geriatric legal warrant

This is a silly fucking thing to say. The alternative is people kill you and take your shit. The last thing any rich person wants is an even mildly educated underclass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324314)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: ruby new version stock car

not only basic necessities but also frivolities + the appearance of social mobility. name one country that has had a violent revolution with those things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324344)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: geriatric legal warrant

This is correct. Mobility need not really exist, but the appearance of it is a necessity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324368)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat

So the conservative responses in this thread are 1. Let them all die and 2. we don't need a middle class. Sounds about right, lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324303)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: misunderstood racy gas station rigpig

REMINDER: All XO conservatards are poors arguing for their own liquidation.

That's the real kicker. By their own logic none of them deserve to live.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324320)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: Galvanic Self-centered Hairy Legs Deer Antler

I fall into this trap sometimes. It's a pretty credited suicide method.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324335)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: Excitant Grizzly Nursing Home

I might be a "poor" by absolute monetary standards, but I don't take any welfare, and I have a great life.

Gas yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324362)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: bearded self-absorbed private investor foreskin

but way too pussy to say this in political advertisements

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324325)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:13 PM
Author: Excitant Grizzly Nursing Home

The real response is that OP is just factually incorrect. People can still make a living just fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324370)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:23 PM
Author: geriatric legal warrant

VENDOR! my party will have 15 of your meatpies, for I hear they are the finest in the land. It seems I must also have some of your ale to wash this down!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324433)



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Date: August 12th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: startled set voyeur

lol poor people, just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21324323)



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Date: August 13th, 2012 10:54 AM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21327162)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:11 AM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21358736)



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Date: August 17th, 2012 9:41 AM
Author: Out-of-control theatre

Solid thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21358838)



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Date: August 22nd, 2012 11:53 AM
Author: Wine Kitty Cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2022168&forum_id=2most#21395425)