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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
180
180 home love of her life
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
much more than that
Maroon coiffed gas station travel guidebook
  11/09/25
anal rape?
carnelian useless set jap
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
glittery clear philosopher-king queen of the night
  11/09/25
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ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
180 home love of her life
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
harsh heaven water buffalo
  11/09/25
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Yellow becky
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
lascivious flushed parlour community account
  11/09/25
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180 home love of her life
  11/09/25
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Lime Cerebral Locus
  11/09/25
cr he blows
aquamarine mind-boggling stag film scourge upon the earth
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Candy Ride
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Candy Ride
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Cleveland *Indians*
Razzle-dazzle hyperactive state
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Vigorous Mentally Impaired Marketing Idea
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
swashbuckling faggotry chad
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
swashbuckling faggotry chad
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Dark Rigpig
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
male infertility tp
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
fishy misanthropic useless brakes
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
.,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Vigorous Mentally Impaired Marketing Idea
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Dark Rigpig
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
aquamarine mind-boggling stag film scourge upon the earth
  11/09/25
*destroying
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Maroon coiffed gas station travel guidebook
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
aquamarine mind-boggling stag film scourge upon the earth
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Maroon coiffed gas station travel guidebook
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
propecia mathematica
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
ponyboy curtis
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Dark Rigpig
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
swashbuckling faggotry chad
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
swashbuckling faggotry chad
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
aquamarine mind-boggling stag film scourge upon the earth
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
fishy misanthropic useless brakes
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
ponyboy curtis
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
heady scarlet hospital sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
heady scarlet hospital sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
fishy misanthropic useless brakes
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Vibrant garrison therapy
  11/09/25
lol
heady scarlet hospital sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
drab ceo
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Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Covid was a Hoax
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
richard clock
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
.,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
ponyboy curtis
  11/09/25
...
ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
"""''''"'"''"'''''
  11/10/25
...
Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  11/10/25
lol
zoomer sexuality expert
  11/10/25
Lmao
propecia mathematica
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: 180 home love of her life

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Maroon coiffed gas station travel guidebook

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: carnelian useless set jap

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: glittery clear philosopher-king queen of the night

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: 180 home love of her life

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: harsh heaven water buffalo

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Yellow becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: lascivious flushed parlour community account

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: 180 home love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Lime Cerebral Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: aquamarine mind-boggling stag film scourge upon the earth

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Candy Ride



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415195)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Candy Ride



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hyperactive state

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Vigorous Mentally Impaired Marketing Idea

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: swashbuckling faggotry chad

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: swashbuckling faggotry chad

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Dark Rigpig

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: male infertility tp

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: fishy misanthropic useless brakes

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..


the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Vigorous Mentally Impaired Marketing Idea

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Dark Rigpig

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: aquamarine mind-boggling stag film scourge upon the earth

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Maroon coiffed gas station travel guidebook

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: aquamarine mind-boggling stag film scourge upon the earth

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Maroon coiffed gas station travel guidebook

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: propecia mathematica

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: ponyboy curtis (If I May, tp)

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Dark Rigpig

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: swashbuckling faggotry chad

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: swashbuckling faggotry chad

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: aquamarine mind-boggling stag film scourge upon the earth

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: fishy misanthropic useless brakes

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: ponyboy curtis (If I May, tp)

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: heady scarlet hospital sweet tailpipe

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: heady scarlet hospital sweet tailpipe

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: fishy misanthropic useless brakes

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Vibrant garrison therapy

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: heady scarlet hospital sweet tailpipe

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: drab ceo

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: richard clock

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..


anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: ponyboy curtis (If I May, tp)

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: """''''"'"''"'''''

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: zoomer sexuality expert

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: propecia mathematica

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416774)