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dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
T. Cruise is the top dog of all time, other than De Niro.
Olive bat shit crazy stag film old irish cottage
  04/09/23
Do you approve of Frank TJ Mackey?
dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
Brad Pitt
gay parlor
  04/09/23
Why?
dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
Fight Club, Fury
trip frisky milk
  12/14/23
Tom cruise is the GOAT
Glassy cruise ship knife
  04/09/23
Explain?
dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
More iconic movies. More handsome. He pwned Brad Pitt in Int...
Glassy cruise ship knife
  04/09/23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsJ6BdQuUxo
dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
Not sure he's more handsome.
Pearly heaven legal warrant
  12/16/23
Cruise
Cheese-eating Skinny Woman Faggot Firefighter
  04/09/23
Care to share why?
dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
Way better movies. I actually preferred peak pitt but lots o...
Cheese-eating Skinny Woman Faggot Firefighter
  04/09/23
if we don't get a couple of thousand words of Cowgod clique ...
fuchsia razzle-dazzle principal's office selfie
  04/09/23
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dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
I’ve been here 15 years and I’ve never seen a co...
sick black woman deer antler
  04/09/23
if Tom Cruise had even just Brad Pitt's height 90% of the wo...
Orange faggotry
  04/09/23
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Bateful coldplay fan
  04/09/23
that tom cruise has achieved so much despite his height is p...
Galvanic quadroon
  12/15/23
A better comparison would be Matt Damon vs Tom Cruise
pungent floppy base
  04/09/23
That would also go to cruise lol
Cheese-eating Skinny Woman Faggot Firefighter
  04/09/23
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stirring dun rigor sneaky criminal
  04/09/23
Cruise wins that one. The Martian and the Talented Mr. Ripl...
trip frisky milk
  12/15/23
the martian? go back to reddit
Demanding background story gas station
  12/15/23
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Slap-happy pale stain
  12/15/23
good book, good film I also like the first Bourne movie
trip frisky milk
  12/15/23
Cruise x10
Contagious azure range elastic band
  04/09/23
Thoughts on Collateral?
dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
its about Kamala Harris
Orange faggotry
  04/09/23
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dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
all of the stuff that happened in collatteral happened irl t...
Orange faggotry
  04/09/23
Cruise and isn’t close
sinister rehab round eye
  04/09/23
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arousing pea-brained theatre nowag
  12/14/23
Pitt just plays Chads. No range. Imagine him playing a chara...
sick black woman deer antler
  04/09/23
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Bateful coldplay fan
  04/09/23
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dashing yarmulke french chef
  04/09/23
Brad Pitt is Shorter than us all but he’s a Chad. Chad...
sick black woman deer antler
  04/09/23
he doesn’t have the mental capacity for that. He&rsqu...
sinister rehab round eye
  04/09/23
It’s not about mental capacity. Chads don’t even...
sick black woman deer antler
  04/09/23
Explain leo then
sinister rehab round eye
  04/09/23
leo isnt a chad
stirring dun rigor sneaky criminal
  04/09/23
Leo is awesome in a way. It’s cool how he was awesome ...
sick black woman deer antler
  04/09/23
Leo peaked as a teen and is coasting on familiarity and char...
Plum coffee pot
  12/15/23
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dashing yarmulke french chef
  12/14/23
ppl used to understand that Pitt was just a pretty face
arousing pea-brained theatre nowag
  12/14/23
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dashing yarmulke french chef
  12/15/23
How is this a question? It’s Cruise
crystalline voyeur idea he suggested
  12/15/23
have you seen Fight Club? Fury?
trip frisky milk
  12/15/23
Risky Business Top Gun 1&2 Days of Thunder A Few Goo...
crystalline voyeur idea he suggested
  12/15/23
Collateral
Pearly heaven legal warrant
  12/16/23
Compare with Pitt: Fight Club Ocean's 11 Troy Benjamin...
crystalline voyeur idea he suggested
  12/15/23
Plus Pitt wasn't even the lead actor in a lot of those movie...
spectacular aqua state community account
  12/15/23
Pitt based on his height /thread
purple irradiated dog poop
  12/15/23
Brad Pitt is 5'11". Nothing to write home about imo
Ivory cumskin step-uncle's house
  12/15/23
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dashing yarmulke french chef
  12/16/23
Cruise just based on his 80s output alone beats Pitt/Damon. ...
spectacular aqua state community account
  12/15/23
Pitt is a better actor, Cruise makes better movies
poppy big bawdyhouse
  12/15/23
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abusive heady international law enforcement agency indian lodge
  12/15/23
Just came in here to say that cruise is a better actor.
copper twinkling uncleanness jap
  12/16/23
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Pearly heaven legal warrant
  12/16/23
Pitt's not even a particularly good actor.
Pearly heaven legal warrant
  12/16/23
Easily cruise. It's not remotely close. Anyone saying differ...
Pearly heaven legal warrant
  12/16/23
Best Cruise film, fag?
dashing yarmulke french chef
  12/16/23
His best performance? Maybe a few good men or collateral or ...
Pearly heaven legal warrant
  12/16/23
They’re the last two movie stars, either way
Unhinged nofapping sanctuary
  12/16/23
Leo
Pearly heaven legal warrant
  12/16/23
Cruise was our Newman. Pitt was our Travolta.
Histrionic indirect expression market
  12/16/23
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dashing yarmulke french chef
  12/16/23
idk but I think Pitt will win in the end, he can pull off th...
hairless mewling public bath
  12/16/23
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dashing yarmulke french chef
  01/03/24
Cruise because the 80s were a bigger and better decade than ...
Ass Sunstein
  12/10/25


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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:52 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165639)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:52 PM
Author: Olive bat shit crazy stag film old irish cottage

T. Cruise is the top dog of all time, other than De Niro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165641)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:54 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef

Do you approve of Frank TJ Mackey?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165646)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:57 PM
Author: gay parlor

Brad Pitt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165656)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:58 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165661)



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Date: December 14th, 2023 8:41 PM
Author: trip frisky milk

Fight Club, Fury

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47172012)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: Glassy cruise ship knife

Tom cruise is the GOAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165664)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef

Explain?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165667)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:03 PM
Author: Glassy cruise ship knife

More iconic movies. More handsome. He pwned Brad Pitt in Interview with a Vampire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165681)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:04 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsJ6BdQuUxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165682)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:32 AM
Author: Pearly heaven legal warrant

Not sure he's more handsome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176262)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: Cheese-eating Skinny Woman Faggot Firefighter

Cruise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165665)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef

Care to share why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165668)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:07 PM
Author: Cheese-eating Skinny Woman Faggot Firefighter

Way better movies. I actually preferred peak pitt but lots of his movies sucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165696)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:01 PM
Author: fuchsia razzle-dazzle principal's office selfie

if we don't get a couple of thousand words of Cowgod clique theory analysis of these two bros' oeuvres i'll be disappointed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165670)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:01 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165673)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:09 PM
Author: sick black woman deer antler

I’ve been here 15 years and I’ve never seen a cowgod post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165702)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:02 PM
Author: Orange faggotry

if Tom Cruise had even just Brad Pitt's height 90% of the world population would be scientologist by now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165679)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:08 PM
Author: Bateful coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165698)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 11:03 AM
Author: Galvanic quadroon

that tom cruise has achieved so much despite his height is proof scientology is true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173703)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:05 PM
Author: pungent floppy base

A better comparison would be Matt Damon vs Tom Cruise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165690)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:08 PM
Author: Cheese-eating Skinny Woman Faggot Firefighter

That would also go to cruise lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165699)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:31 PM
Author: stirring dun rigor sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165794)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 5:31 AM
Author: trip frisky milk

Cruise wins that one.

The Martian and the Talented Mr. Ripley are great but < Cruise's body of work is 5X greater

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173120)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 8:09 AM
Author: Demanding background story gas station

the martian? go back to reddit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173356)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 8:09 AM
Author: Slap-happy pale stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173357)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 9:15 AM
Author: trip frisky milk

good book, good film

I also like the first Bourne movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173468)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:09 PM
Author: Contagious azure range elastic band

Cruise x10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165704)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:13 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef

Thoughts on Collateral?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165718)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:15 PM
Author: Orange faggotry

its about Kamala Harris

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165732)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:17 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165737)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: Orange faggotry

all of the stuff that happened in collatteral happened irl to kamala harris

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165742)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:16 PM
Author: sinister rehab round eye

Cruise and isn’t close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165735)



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Date: December 14th, 2023 8:42 PM
Author: arousing pea-brained theatre nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47172014)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:23 PM
Author: sick black woman deer antler

Pitt just plays Chads. No range. Imagine him playing a character who gave a shit about anything like Cruise in a few good men or born on the fourth of july

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165765)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:24 PM
Author: Bateful coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165769)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:32 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165798)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:43 PM
Author: sick black woman deer antler

Brad Pitt is Shorter than us all but he’s a Chad. Chads don’t experience negative emotions hence they don’t have anything to tap into. Pitt’s signature role is Tyler Durden who is just an arch chad who dgaf. Tristan Ludlow from xo LOTF is along the same vein. His non-dgaf characters are eminently forgettable. Nobody cares about 7 years in Tibet.

Cruise is a Short Chad-esque character so hes experienced the full gamut of emotions, so he’s a better actor. Serious actors like DDL have to torture themselves artificially to experience the ignominy of the Short imo. People wonder why Tall Guys suck at acting and it’s the same reason they suck at writing. No inner life to tap into. When Tall guys talk you can see the results on this board — 70% of the time they just state their heights. People wrote Crichton’s books for him bc he was 6’9. Also I’m not even sure how Short Cruise actually is, I think he just dated Tall women so people think he’s 4’11.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165834)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:24 PM
Author: sinister rehab round eye

he doesn’t have the mental capacity for that. He’s a retard pothead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165772)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:29 PM
Author: sick black woman deer antler

It’s not about mental capacity. Chads don’t even experience negative emotions irl so they can’t convey them on screen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165786)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:30 PM
Author: sinister rehab round eye

Explain leo then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165789)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:42 PM
Author: stirring dun rigor sneaky criminal

leo isnt a chad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165830)



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Date: April 9th, 2023 9:48 PM
Author: sick black woman deer antler

Leo is awesome in a way. It’s cool how he was awesome in Gilbert grape, was mediocre in Titanic but still intense, was way overboard to an unrealistic extent in The Departed (was supposed to be undercover and acted like an undercover cop about to lose it in front of the bad guys), Blood Diamond is a sleeper classic, and the list goes on. However because he autistically dates models he is not a true Chad imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#46165848)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 12:36 PM
Author: Plum coffee pot

Leo peaked as a teen and is coasting on familiarity and charm in adult roles. Gilbert Grape and Basketball Diaries are his best performances. The fact that no one says this publicly is indicative of the decline of American film culture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173940)



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Date: December 14th, 2023 8:35 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47171971)



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Date: December 14th, 2023 8:43 PM
Author: arousing pea-brained theatre nowag

ppl used to understand that Pitt was just a pretty face

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47172019)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 2:45 AM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173018)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 4:19 AM
Author: crystalline voyeur idea he suggested

How is this a question? It’s Cruise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173082)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 5:32 AM
Author: trip frisky milk

have you seen Fight Club? Fury?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173122)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 10:57 AM
Author: crystalline voyeur idea he suggested

Risky Business

Top Gun 1&2

Days of Thunder

A Few Good Men

The Firm

Every Mission Impossible

Jerry Maguire

Eyes Wide Shut

Minority Report

Last Samurai

etc

etc



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173685)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: Pearly heaven legal warrant

Collateral

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176249)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 10:59 AM
Author: crystalline voyeur idea he suggested

Compare with Pitt:

Fight Club

Ocean's 11

Troy

Benjamin Button (lol)

Moneyball

Inglorious Basterds

World War Z

Fury

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173692)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 11:00 AM
Author: spectacular aqua state community account

Plus Pitt wasn't even the lead actor in a lot of those movies. Cruise always is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173694)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 5:32 AM
Author: purple irradiated dog poop

Pitt based on his height /thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173123)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 8:15 AM
Author: Ivory cumskin step-uncle's house

Brad Pitt is 5'11". Nothing to write home about imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173359)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 8:42 AM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176185)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 8:12 AM
Author: spectacular aqua state community account

Cruise just based on his 80s output alone beats Pitt/Damon. Cruise was the iconic movie star of his generation. Nobody comes close except maybe Arnold, but he was much less of an "actor".

Part of it is just that he became famous earlier, when being a movie star was a much bigger thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173358)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 10:59 AM
Author: poppy big bawdyhouse

Pitt is a better actor, Cruise makes better movies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173690)



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Date: December 15th, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: abusive heady international law enforcement agency indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47173746)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:03 AM
Author: copper twinkling uncleanness jap

Just came in here to say that cruise is a better actor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176207)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: Pearly heaven legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176245)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: Pearly heaven legal warrant

Pitt's not even a particularly good actor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176248)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:27 AM
Author: Pearly heaven legal warrant

Easily cruise. It's not remotely close. Anyone saying different has been influenced by the anti-scientology lobby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176244)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:28 AM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef

Best Cruise film, fag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176250)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:31 AM
Author: Pearly heaven legal warrant

His best performance? Maybe a few good men or collateral or born on the 4th of July.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176257)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:30 AM
Author: Unhinged nofapping sanctuary

They’re the last two movie stars, either way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176256)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:31 AM
Author: Pearly heaven legal warrant

Leo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176258)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:34 AM
Author: Histrionic indirect expression market

Cruise was our Newman. Pitt was our Travolta.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47176268)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 6:58 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5322142&forum_id=2most#47177934)



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Date: December 16th, 2023 7:00 PM
Author: hairless mewling public bath

idk but I think Pitt will win in the end, he can pull off the Redford thing where I don't think Cruise can keep the boyish thing up forever

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Date: January 3rd, 2024 7:16 PM
Author: dashing yarmulke french chef



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Date: December 10th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

Cruise because the 80s were a bigger and better decade than the 90s for mass culture and movie stars in general.

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