HATP, what denomination are you?
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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:00 PM Author: lsd
Or HATP could forget about trying to be “cool” or “respectable” in this world and focus on what God wants from us.
John 15:19
If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
John 18:36
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”
1 John 2:15
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
Etc etc etc
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2most#49445324) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 11:32 AM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First)
True Calvinism is so mentally ill that every culture that has tried it has given up.
Just imagine saying to someone that faith in Christ isn't enough for salvation. That God picks some people at random to save and others not.
No one has been able to hang on to 5 point Calvinism for long. The Dutch tried, but it was too much of a bummer, so Arminius came along and said OK we'll keep most of Calvinism but we're scrapping predestination. The Puritans similarly swung extremely far in the other direction. They went from only a tiny handful of people are saved to everyone is saved no matter what they do.
Calvin came up with predestination because in the Bible God randomly blesses some people and not others. And he thought Jesus was explicit that he only died for the sins of his flock, not everyone. But 99% of Christians don't believe this anymore. So you can try! But most don't make it very far.
Actually if you look back at history, early America, the Netherlands, and Switzerland are all very similar. Calvinists who were industrious, built high trust societies, got insanely wealthy, and then lost the capacity to be super judgy of others and enforce their strict religion. They all became universalists after they became successful. No different than libs today.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2most#49446294) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First)
Calvin wrote many weighty tomes about the theology. He spent his entire life studying the Bible and drawing his conclusions about what it meant. They sometimes call him The Exegete. No one looked deeper and wrote more about what the Bible meant than this dude (Augustinian disciple as well iirc)
Skimming this Weber entry I like the part about WASP austerity. They worked hard AND rejected materialism. That's how they got so rich. They were AFRAID of using their hard earned wages for anything other than stored investment. They believed that dollars beget more dollars, and if money is the scorecard of salvation you'd be insane to waste a penny that could go towards growing your chip stack. Amazing. Now think about how a Puritan-descendant like Abigail Johnson owns the entire stock market lol. Makes perfect sense.
Also Weber's incredible dings on Lutheranism for caring way too much about the holy spirit and not GETTING THE FUCK TO WORK and saving money. Ljfl.
I do kinda like the Calvinist work ethic thing just reminds me of my dad and how I was raised.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2most#49446634) |
Date: November 19th, 2025 8:43 PM
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he's episcopalian 😂
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