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Terminator 2 Plot Hole: they literally had no fucking plan to kill the T1000

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing th...
Massive Church
  06/18/24
The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great mo...
Cerebral indirect expression stock car
  06/18/24
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Spectacular Vermilion Community Account
  06/18/24
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Autistic Theater Brethren
  06/18/24
its basically invincible to physical damage
Know-it-all gas station
  06/18/24
It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of...
Painfully Honest Godawful Resort
  06/18/24
he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after g...
Aquamarine clown
  06/18/24
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Exhilarant lodge lettuce
  06/18/24
Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000u...
Massive Church
  06/19/24
Giant octopus would do it
Talented Twisted Mother Incel
  06/19/24
or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal
Massive Church
  06/19/24
Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there'...
Talented Twisted Mother Incel
  06/19/24
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alcoholic hospital
  06/19/24
That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you i...
Jet-lagged library factory reset button
  06/18/24
save it for trivia, champ
mind-boggling pearly meetinghouse toilet seat
  06/18/24
the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridic...
hideous free-loading brunch
  06/18/24
Youre gay, we get it.
Cerebral indirect expression stock car
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racy deranged mad cow disease ticket booth
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alcoholic hospital
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Autistic Theater Brethren
  06/19/24
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offensive orchid ratface half-breed
  06/19/24
lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at l...
olive effete den really tough guy
  06/18/24
that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some i...
hideous free-loading brunch
  06/18/24
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gold histrionic useless brakes location
  06/18/24
Wtf is a summer glau
rough-skinned hairraiser bawdyhouse
  06/19/24
(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterma...
avocado nubile dragon trump supporter
  06/19/24
I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(
glittery mint goal in life
  06/20/24
Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in tha...
avocado nubile dragon trump supporter
  06/20/24
I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where t...
glittery mint goal in life
  06/20/24
love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies but this...
Burgundy prole theater stage
  06/18/24
Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where ev...
gold histrionic useless brakes location
  06/18/24
yeah, no oh, a robot can put itself back together vs oh, a...
hideous free-loading brunch
  06/18/24
My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on ...
gold histrionic useless brakes location
  06/19/24
Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work...
Heady address gaping
  06/18/24
Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicatin...
Burgundy prole theater stage
  06/18/24
lmao just rip off back to the future?
Heady address gaping
  06/18/24
*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the ga...
Arousing french chef
  06/19/24
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overrated thriller locus sandwich
  06/19/24
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Talented Twisted Mother Incel
  06/20/24
im not a phenotype expert like many on the board... but F...
Exhilarant lodge lettuce
  06/20/24
Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly rui...
Violet queen of the night national
  06/20/24
I’m gay
slap-happy cruise ship round eye
  06/18/24
The story is that they were so far behind in resources at th...
Fragrant menage new version
  06/18/24
Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his...
Massive Church
  06/19/24
When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matte...
slate bbw
  06/19/24
another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense
Massive Church
  06/19/24
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Athlete?s Foot
  12/24/25
In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no o...
Painfully Honest Godawful Resort
  06/19/24
The second movie actually takes place before the first
Talented Twisted Mother Incel
  06/20/24
movies that take place only slightly before/after the curren...
Massive Church
  06/20/24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact
Talented Twisted Mother Incel
  06/20/24
nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Roa...
Massive Church
  06/21/24
They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezi...
Beta abode
  06/19/24
they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's m...
Massive Church
  06/20/24
the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and ...
Exhilarant lodge lettuce
  06/20/24
Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood...
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Date: June 18th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: Massive Church

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing then randomly decided to raid the cyberdyne lab then happened to drive to a fortuitous steel mill. they were really dumb as shit and got lucky and even then john and sarah ended up as fugitives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47757584)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: Cerebral indirect expression stock car

The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47757934)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Spectacular Vermilion Community Account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47757940)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Autistic Theater Brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47757946)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: Know-it-all gas station

its basically invincible to physical damage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47757973)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:46 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Godawful Resort

It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of very high temperature explosive on it. It ultimately melts in the molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47758301)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: Aquamarine clown

he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after getting frozen and shattered

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/c/c8/800px-T2T-1000glitch-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090320213631

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/t1000_glitch.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759018)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Exhilarant lodge lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47758073)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: Massive Church

Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000using20thcenturytech.xlsb loaded in his head. one of the rows would have been to break into a steel mill and dump him in a vat of molten metal. they probably could have just gone way out to sea and threw him in the ocean. he'd do something dumb like shapeshift into a shark but then he'd be stuck in the water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759947)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: Talented Twisted Mother Incel

Giant octopus would do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47760201)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: Massive Church

or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47760946)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: Talented Twisted Mother Incel

Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there's no way he could avoid chemical impurities IMHO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761930)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: alcoholic hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47760192)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: Jet-lagged library factory reset button

That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you idiot. A very common one too - underdogs up against a seemingly unstoppable enemy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47757978)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: mind-boggling pearly meetinghouse toilet seat

save it for trivia, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47758072)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: hideous free-loading brunch

the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridiculous 5,000 year jump in technology to the point of imaginary.

summer glau helped revive it, but only because of her acting and looks

t2 is just a lame fantasy kids movie. t1 was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47758068)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: Cerebral indirect expression stock car

Youre gay, we get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47758269)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: racy deranged mad cow disease ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759203)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: alcoholic hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47760193)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: Autistic Theater Brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47760988)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: offensive orchid ratface half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761935)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: olive effete den really tough guy

lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at least make the villain as cool as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47758330)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: hideous free-loading brunch

that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some imaginary freddy krueger robot is not 'cool', it's lame.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47758954)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: gold histrionic useless brakes location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759013)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: rough-skinned hairraiser bawdyhouse

Wtf is a summer glau

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761039)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: avocado nubile dragon trump supporter

(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterman*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761132)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: glittery mint goal in life

I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47763660)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: avocado nubile dragon trump supporter

Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in that era sucked at this :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47764275)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: glittery mint goal in life

I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where the rich boss was a fake before they did the big reveal and for that show they paid for the episodes they just never aired them. Same era I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47764303)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: Burgundy prole theater stage

love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies

but this one isnt that compelling

bit like the death star shot -- they needed every single circumstance to break their way to stand a chance against invincible villain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47758969)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: gold histrionic useless brakes location

Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where even after repeated obliteration from small arms and explosives the Terminator is still a threat until they find the fortuitous industrial press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759020)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: hideous free-loading brunch

yeah, no

oh, a robot can put itself back together vs

oh, a liquid metal imaginary shapeshifter can see, can fix itself, can rejoin, can become anything can...etc

incredibly lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759158)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: gold histrionic useless brakes location

My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on them getting lucky on being near an industrial factory or whatever

Anyway, when you remember that The Terminator was initially conceived of (and plays out as) a slasher movie, then just think of T-800 as Michael or Jason, and T-1000 as Freddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47760088)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: Heady address gaping

Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work anyway because the future they came from proved that they didn't die? idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759029)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: Burgundy prole theater stage

Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicating a strong chance they failed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759035)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: Heady address gaping

lmao just rip off back to the future?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759056)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:21 PM
Author: Arousing french chef

*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the gap*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761055)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: overrated thriller locus sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761078)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: Talented Twisted Mother Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47763081)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: Exhilarant lodge lettuce

im not a phenotype expert like many on the board...

but Furlong, along with for example Wiley Wiggins from Dazed and Confused...

is an example of this weird type of guy who comes across as cool and charasmatic at about age 13 and then somehow devolves into a wretched loser by the time they are 18, never to return



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47763150)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: Violet queen of the night national

Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly ruined T2. The fact that it's still watchable is a testament to how freaking sweet the rest of the movie is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47763528)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: slap-happy cruise ship round eye

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759164)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: Fragrant menage new version

The story is that they were so far behind in resources at that point in the future that recycling scraps like arnold was the best they could do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759196)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: Massive Church

Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his cyborg head already except for ways to kill it. more plausible would be that it showed up out of nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47759994)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: slate bbw

When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matter if you kill a T1000 or not? They'll just send another T1000 and then another until you die

As someone said, their only hope was go off the grid until judgement day



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761031)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: Massive Church

another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761057)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: Athlete?s Foot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#49538001)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Godawful Resort

In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no one else could go through. That concept was abandoned by the second movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761404)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: Talented Twisted Mother Incel

The second movie actually takes place before the first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47763086)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Massive Church

movies that take place only slightly before/after the current year the movie was made are annoying. Road Trip is another example of that and it's confusing that it takes place in like 1996 instead of 1999.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47763094)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: Talented Twisted Mother Incel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47763774)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: Massive Church

nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Road Trip where they're just a few years off so mailing VHS tapes even tho it was made in 2000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47766102)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: Beta abode

They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezing episode though. And that was well into the movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47761396)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: Massive Church

they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's mexican ranch then instead of coming up with a strategy, Sarah runs off like an idiot to kill Dyson then they parlay that into blowing up Cyberdyne

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47763589)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: Exhilarant lodge lettuce

the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and over. but then sarah tards out and john decides they're going to go back into danger to save her.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47764266)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: Massive Church

Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood in T1 says this out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47764288)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: gold histrionic useless brakes location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2most#47766116)