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Best luggage? Tumi vs. Travelpro vs. CHAD Briggs & Riley
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Date: September 20th, 2024 11:12 AM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler I'm getting new luggage soon (just a carry-on and personal item) and want to hear from some LUGGAGE MASTERMEN (and MASTERWOMEN?) about which luggage brand is the best. I don't want to spend ten fucking trillion dollars on Briggs and Riley...there's gotta be something cheaper that's still really good, right? Don't most people just get Tumi or whatever and call it a day?
Also, I'm used to two wheels. Are four-wheel spinners for CUCKS, or do they have legitimate advantages over two-wheeled luggage? |
Date: September 20th, 2024 11:19 AM Author: jet-lagged amethyst ratface Tumi is good and will last you a LONG time 4 wheels are good because you can just push it along instead of having to wheel it behind you like some Greek grandmother going to the market edit Victorinox is good too, their gear will withstand a savage beating |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:12 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler I'm on the Victorinox website and their luggage looks super swanky...it's 600 bucks though. Ugh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113190) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:39 PM Author: jet-lagged amethyst ratface I have one of their backpacks. Have had it over 10 years, use it every day for laptop and gym gear and shopping and everything, have given it a real regular beating over many years, and it’s still in perfect shape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113277) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:47 PM Author: crimson at-the-ready haunted graveyard had no idea Victorinox was good, i think i wld see them at Marshalls and always assumed ghetto (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113303) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:51 PM Author: jet-lagged amethyst ratface it’s the Swiss company that makes the Swiss Army knives, they branched out to luggage and other shit on the premise that they will make that other shit just as indestructible as they make their knives, and the backpack and carry on case I have both fit that bill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113322) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:54 PM Author: crimson at-the-ready haunted graveyard furk i shld look for one, maybe even the rip off ones in asia are good, i got a rip off north face backpack for $18 in saigon, its ok and some of this shit is actually just rejected actual factory inventory but i still need something ebtter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113332) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:55 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler You're actually kind of selling me on Victorinox (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113335) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:57 PM Author: jet-lagged amethyst ratface I’m a fan If you do, get the basic models without fancy features, they’re a gimmick |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:56 PM Author: Mind-boggling big-titted gaming laptop kitty cat i had a laptop bag from them ~5 years ago and it was solid, i like the name of the brand, held up for a few years. not exactly premium construction but fine value (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113337) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 11:20 AM Author: insecure ultramarine windowlicker giraffe Get one of those ones you can sit down and ride around on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48112996) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:30 PM Author: beady-eyed citrine business firm reading party cr, but op is probably not an alpha af male to do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p-YNHCIo6k |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:34 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler this video gets crazier the longer i watch it. they're riding the luggage on the beach? wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113262) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:53 PM Author: beady-eyed citrine business firm reading party clearly not an alpha af male who has rev'd up their luggage and kicked sand in the face of fags on the beach (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113329) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 4:58 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler Is this like the scene in Karate Kid with Johnny Lawrence on the beach, except it's motorized luggage instead of dirt bikes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48114206) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 11:20 AM Author: Gay dysfunction legal warrant i love my rimowa carryon-on but my wife hates it because it's non-expandable and she's a terrible packer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113001) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:36 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler This carryon is awesome. https://www.rimowa.com/us/en/luggage/colour/silver/cabin/92553004.html That's a lot of money though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113267) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:58 PM Author: Gay dysfunction legal warrant They used be around $800-900 which was still expensive but not retardedly so like the current price (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113347) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 1:01 PM Author: flushed exciting location They got Asian cred now and the prices are insane.
I would never want one because of how people baby them so they keep looking new. I don’t want to have to be precious with a suitcase. Also have wife and kids who cannot take care of anything (and typically don’t fly first/business when traveling with family so no assurance that I can carryon). |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 8:26 AM Author: Gay dysfunction legal warrant all my large checked luggage is American TTTourister (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48126011) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 11:24 AM Author: flushed exciting location Briggs & Rileymo here after years of lower-tier Samsonite/Amazon shit. Order it from Costco Next. Don’t overthink it. Only comparable option is TravelPro but who wants the same luggage as FAs making $28k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113019) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:09 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler Is Travelpro fine if I don't really care about fashion/image that much? The pilots and flight attendants use it, I figure that's a pretty good testament to its quality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113186) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:58 PM Author: flushed exciting location I’ve never owned it but the turbo travel austists seem to approve, so I think yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113348) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:36 PM Author: mauve fragrant school faggot firefighter everyone in my practice group exclusively uses Louis Vuitton monogrammed luggage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113265) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:38 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler What happened to the last guy who used a prole luggage brand like Samsonite? Was he fired? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113274) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:56 PM Author: mauve fragrant school faggot firefighter One guy showed up with an LL Bean bag and the partner told him to "put that shit back in your lesbian Subaru and drive back to Wellesley." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113336) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:58 PM Author: jet-lagged amethyst ratface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113350) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:59 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler lol. brutal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113351) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:59 PM Author: lemon vibrant crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113353) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 1:07 PM Author: cruel-hearted cracking private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113378) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 4:08 AM Author: Bronze gas station marketing idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116149) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:36 PM Author: crimson at-the-ready haunted graveyard My theory is that luggage like diamonds or sunglasses is kike flame cause of monopolies and the ease of fooling goys
Most luggage is the same shit, made in the same Chink sweatshop. Its just branded by X comp and marketed as superior. The reality is if you travel the entire year most of this shit from Samsonite to whatever else is bullshit and will get destroyed.
The comps get arnd this because most Goys are only traveling 3-4 times a year so it will take many years for their luggage to fail. The comps can have "10 year warranties" or whatever but it doesnt matter because Goys wont use it enough and even if they do if u read the terms it has all sorts of exclusions for usual "wear and tear" or "misuse" etc.
I recently had an American Tourister handle break and thought abt taking it into get free fix but then I read the terms and was like LOL dont bother. Since I travel year round I've just accepted I will need to buy a new suitcase once or twice a year. I bought a $58 Desley now and we'll see how long it lasts.
There's prob some really good luggage that the flight attendants and pilots use, but it also cld be BS cause their comps prob just replace it if it breaks so u never hear abt it being shitty. I really think its almost impossible to make bullet proof luggage |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:41 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler Attendants and pilots use Travel Pro, which is what I'm thinking of getting (also seems reasonably priced). You are right that "high-end" luggage is probably like a lot of other luxury goods--made in the same facility as regular cheapo luggage, but has some additional adornments (a fancy leather handle, etc.) that allow it to be sold for several hundred dollars more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113284) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:46 PM Author: crimson at-the-ready haunted graveyard the biggest things that can break in luggage are the wheels and handle and then rips in the case or the zipper giving out, i really wonder how "travelpro" is that much better. unless u had some new way of manufacturing shit i just dont believe it. if there are stats abt breakage it wld be nice but i bet travelpro intentionally sells cheap luggage to airlines for the PR, it wld be a great marketing trick
really, chinks will figure this out soon and make some 180 case that is indestructible
just looking at the pics of travelpros, the wheels look like the same shit, the soft cover is the same shit, how is this better? who actually proved this is better? its just brandname cause flight attendants get it for free?
https://www.kohls.com/product/prd-5695787/travelpro-maxlite-5-softside-spinner-luggage.jsp?skuid=18745876&CID=shopping30&CID=shopping30&gad_source=4 |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 7:40 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler You've made some observations in this thread about problems with luggage, how they all use cheap wheels, etc. but I scrolled back through and I don't think you actually recommended anything. Is there a luggage company that isn't using the same cheap, breakable wheels and other cheap parts? There's got to be like, some high-quality luggage manufacturers who aren't using cheap plasticky wheels from a Chinese sweatshop, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48128317) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:39 PM Author: Mind-boggling big-titted gaming laptop kitty cat I'm not an expert, mostly hear to listen to the mastermen. I had a briggs and riley carry on that I didn't realize was expensive, was second hand. It felt high quality, and lasted a few years, but then broke (my fault packing it too full and forcing it). Tumi stuff seems great but really expensive. I would try travelpro because as mentioned it's what you see aircraft staff use and I'm not trying to flex on anyone with my luggage branding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113279) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:41 PM Author: insecure ultramarine windowlicker giraffe If even the good ones break after a couple years, why not just buy $100 no-name suitcases from Amazon or Target or wherever? Luggage always seemed like flame to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113282) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:46 PM Author: Mind-boggling big-titted gaming laptop kitty cat Agreed for carry on luggage.
For briefcase or laptop bags, I could sort of understand getting a Tumi if I lived in NYC or someplace walkable where I was touching it a lot. But in real life, I have a Targus brand bag from Best Buy and it works great, and I'll buy another one whenever it breaks |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:50 PM Author: crimson at-the-ready haunted graveyard (Not a Goy)
This is what Ive realized traveling non stop Ive bought $15 suitcases in ghetto Asian markets to semi nice brands and its all the same shit. They never last if u use them enough. Its all made in the same chink factory, just branded differently. Ive yet to see ANY luggage that seemed it was made with a much higher quality to justify these inflated insane $150 prices or whtever. The warranties are all total bullshit with tons of exclusions
The cold hard nigga truth is its hard to make a indestructible suitcase, no one has done this apparently. These comps like Samsonite just maek money off Goys being stupid as shit |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 12:58 PM Author: lemon vibrant crackhouse hot take here, but anything with a mass-produced label on it seems inherently trashy to some extent. think blacks going buckwild and ruining gucci for all the shrewy women that used to love it. it's probably better to spend more and find an artisan to make a luggage set that is yours and only yours. if there is a trademark, hopefully it will be unrecognizable to even the snobbiest of bag snobs. that's how elite your shit is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113344) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 1:00 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler bespoke stuff is probably out of my price range but that does sound like a cool idea. i would wonder if one-of-a-kind luggage is more likely to get stolen though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113359) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 1:23 PM Author: crimson at-the-ready haunted graveyard find an artisan to make a luggage set tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113438) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 4:40 AM Author: titillating native headpube cr, prole tell to not have your own tanner on call (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116163) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 7:50 AM Author: Lime drunken internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116297) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 8:44 AM Author: Charcoal Cerebral Corner Scourge Upon The Earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48126037) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 8:48 AM Author: mauve fragrant school faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48126049) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 1:00 PM Author: exhilarant aquamarine orchestra pit Had Tumi two wheel for 15 years but only use it maybe 2x/year anymore.
My go-to now is tumi double-fold garment bag. Perfect for up to three-four days with business attire, then I bring normal backpack too |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 1:06 PM Author: cruel-hearted cracking private investor All my luggage is Tumi. It's a great brand and their shit lasts forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113375) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 1:26 PM Author: mewling glittery keepsake machete menage Samsonite and its not even close (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48113448) |
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Date: September 20th, 2024 1:31 PM Author: crimson at-the-ready haunted graveyard Samsonite CEO:
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Date: September 21st, 2024 3:55 AM Author: Slippery Rehab easy call you fucking cretins
https://www.tumi.com/p/garment-bag-tri-fold-carry-on-01171481041/ |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 4:03 AM Author: Bronze gas station marketing idea I'm a samsonitemo, but, will upgrade to briggs and riley when the opportunity presents itself. I am definitely a function over form type when it comes to luggage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116143) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 4:21 AM Author: Hairraiser carmine hominid personal credit line 'it' luggage has the best carry on bags. light AF and max compliant size (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116151) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 5:12 AM Author: Bateful Indian Lodge Dragon Tumi is overpriced, as is Briggs and Riley. Seems like you don't want to spend very much so have included a budget option as well:
- My favorite: https://www.carlfriedrik.com/int/products/the-carry-on-x?colour=black+%2F+black&surface+texture=smooth
- has USB charging port - https://www.victorinox.com/en-GB/Products/Travel-Gear/Carry-On-Bags/Lexicon-Hardside-Frequent-Flyer-Carry-On/p/602101/
- striver - https://briggs-riley.co.uk/products/torq-international-carry-on-spinner-qu221sp |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 7:36 AM Author: Bronze gas station marketing idea you've got good taste, the carl fredrick carry-on is handsome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116277) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 7:56 AM Author: Bateful Indian Lodge Dragon ty.
I actually think the Victorinox is the best buy. |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 5:56 AM Author: Histrionic institution wrinkle I use this one
https://www.hookandalbert.com/collections/bags/products/mens-leather-garment-weekender
Or for big trips
https://www.ogio.com/travel/rig-9800-travel-bag/spr4705202.html |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 7:51 AM Author: Bateful Indian Lodge Dragon future crippled arthritis haver. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116299) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 12:02 PM Author: Histrionic institution wrinkle explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116792) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 4:37 PM Author: Bateful Indian Lodge Dragon lugging around with no wheels is gonna fuck your shit up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48127613) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 6:25 AM Author: overrated impressive laser beams church building Tumi is good
My ex-wife loved Away |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 9:28 AM Author: Very tactful antidepressant drug Have BR checked luggage and a Tumi trifold carryon. All incredibly durable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116431) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 12:21 PM Author: lavender half-breed What's your recommended under-seat bag? I keep getting fucked on CRJs with these shitty overhead bins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48116818) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 5:27 PM Author: Slippery Rehab https://shop.hartmann.com/luggage/carry-on/herringbone-deluxe-underseater/123122XXXX.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48117659) |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 1:45 PM Author: Histrionic institution wrinkle I offered to buy my wife this one just now. She said it looks stupid and too heavy to lift into the overhead
https://www.rimowa.com/us/en/luggage/colour/green/cabin-s/83252681.html |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 5:30 PM Author: Slippery Rehab this is lighter
https://shop.hartmann.com/luggage/innovaire-global-carry-on/59625XXXX.html |
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Date: September 21st, 2024 6:16 PM Author: Histrionic institution wrinkle She wants the Trunk XL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48117801) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 8:23 AM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler That's very swanky looking, I like it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48126008) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 8:33 AM Author: Very tactful antidepressant drug I would avoid Rimowa...my wife wanted Rimowa luggage because woman and it is very low quality. In the first 12-14mo she had it the lock smashed open and deformed while in transit multiple times and it had to go back to the shop for repairs. I've had my BR and Tumi for 10+ years, obviously they get a lot of use and no problems ever. Since LVMH acquired Rimowa they upped prices and slashed quality. If you're set on Rimowa because of the aesthetics, look at buying a second hand piece from pre-merger when they actually built them to last. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48126022) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 8:35 AM Author: mauve fragrant school faggot firefighter a second hand piece from pre-merger Rimowa tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48126028) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 8:37 AM Author: Very tactful antidepressant drug Soo CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48126031) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 7:41 PM Author: arousing ruddy chapel deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48128319) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 8:46 AM Author: Charcoal Cerebral Corner Scourge Upon The Earth she's confused that an $850 suitcase doesn't at least include a complimentary basket of dildos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48126039) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 4:40 PM Author: stirring cuckold the actual best luggage is probably going to come from gun doods, most of it is too tactical looking to use, but they usually have a few pieces that are basically just black and those doods do actually care about things like stitching, material weight etc etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48127624) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 4:43 PM Author: Purple Judgmental Range Pisswyrm For carry on/personal item I think it makes sense to buy one of the luxe brands. You'll take care of it and it'll last. For checked baggage it's gonna get fucked up no matter what, we just use cheap Samsonite (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48127632) |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 4:49 PM Author: shaky whorehouse Prole here but away bags have always worked well for me. I travel fairly frequently, they're cheap and relatively indestructible and if they do get damaged... well they're cheap.
Downside is literally 1/2 the ppl in the airport have them these days.
Looked at tumi but could never really figure out the basis for the price premium. |
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Date: September 24th, 2024 4:51 PM Author: stirring cuckold luxury plastics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#48127658) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 6:58 PM Author: prayer chain https://goruck.com HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5598508&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50056031) |