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Did a man walk on the moon: YES or NO?

I think we've been lied to our entire lives.
Salmon rebellious mad cow disease
  08/11/26
You could have a long discussion with AI about this
maroon cruel-hearted location
  08/11/26
You’re a moron if you’re even asking this q
bespoke bateful nursing home
  08/11/26
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thirsty contagious theater stage
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olive exhilarant roast beef
  08/13/26
yes you fucking retard
lime hospital
  08/11/26
(boomer)
Salmon rebellious mad cow disease
  08/11/26
yeah
Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo
  08/11/26
No
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Salmon rebellious mad cow disease
  08/12/26
i believe yes but i wouldn't be surprised if it turned out t...
Stimulating mildly autistic plaza
  08/12/26
the chances of it not being real are about as close to mathe...
thirsty contagious theater stage
  08/12/26
i haven't actually looked into it much tbh. you are a knowle...
Stimulating mildly autistic plaza
  08/12/26
Yes
thirsty contagious theater stage
  08/12/26
When you look at all the other shit we did in the 50s and 60...
autistic electric church building
  08/12/26
Go ask Buzz Aldrin
hot milky native people who are hurt
  08/12/26
let me put it this way, and this is how any disinterested ra...
Spectacular Metal National Security Agency Market
  08/12/26
Almost any historical event can be made to look suspicious i...
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  08/12/26
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brilliant provocative stead
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Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo
  08/12/26
all the more reason for them to have planned ahead and provi...
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  08/12/26
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Salmon rebellious mad cow disease
  08/12/26
good point, but, otoh, we do have clear and convincing evide...
Pearly big hairy legs
  08/13/26
But genderrattt says that other, smarter people didn't call ...
Chestnut spot knife
  08/13/26
We can literally bounce lasers off the reflectors we placed ...
arousing coiffed sex offender corner
  08/12/26
the 'reflectors' don't prove that anyone 'walked on the moon...
Spectacular Metal National Security Agency Market
  08/12/26
Please identify yourself so I can disregard everything you s...
arousing coiffed sex offender corner
  08/12/26
you're very snarky for a retarded turd
Spectacular Metal National Security Agency Market
  08/12/26
Why are you reluctant to ascribe your already anonymous xoxo...
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Salmon rebellious mad cow disease
  08/15/26
this used to be a high IQ bort
lime hospital
  08/12/26
you literally are the dumbest person to have ever posted (no...
bistre office trump supporter
  08/13/26
yeah; this isn't in any particular doubt. especially since ...
laughsome chapel
  08/12/26
All during the Nixon admin.
Maniacal new version cuckoldry
  08/12/26
I cant define stupid but I know it when I see it Your poast...
Chestnut spot knife
  08/12/26
I still can’t see an argument against the video of the...
Maniacal new version cuckoldry
  08/12/26
Shot with a wide angle lens?
autistic electric church building
  08/12/26
Link to that?
Chestnut spot knife
  08/12/26
no i think its too hard
thriller area rigor
  08/12/26
this is basically what this conspiracy theory boils down to....
lime hospital
  08/12/26
On the contrary as a simpleton I see amazing people do incre...
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  08/12/26
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Not really. It would be easy to believe if we werent present...
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Salmon rebellious mad cow disease
  08/15/26
way to have the worst fucking take yet again on yet another ...
bistre office trump supporter
  08/13/26
I dont believe it happened in the 1960s.
Jade Cerebral Hell Goal In Life
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Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor
  08/12/26
Yes. The USSR and others had no incentive to support the US...
Bonkers Cruise Ship
  08/12/26
Read your Consuela. Its all one system.
Chestnut spot knife
  08/12/26
The USSR had lots of incentive to support the US lying about...
motley dog poop
  08/13/26
They could have bowed out by exposing the lie. The real exp...
Chestnut spot knife
  08/13/26
If they exposed the lie, they would have had to continue wor...
motley dog poop
  08/13/26
The point is they could have simply proved that this shit is...
Chestnut spot knife
  08/13/26
No, they could not have put comissar fagotsky on a lectern s...
motley dog poop
  08/13/26
Ok you got me. There are numerous reasons the Soviets may no...
Chestnut spot knife
  08/13/26
Highly respectable concession, well met and I doff my fedora
motley dog poop
  08/13/26
that this demonstrably false worldview is the only possible ...
Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo
  08/13/26
Explain why you think nation states are an eternal instituti...
Chestnut spot knife
  08/13/26
The 2015 Stormfront poster incursion and its consequences ha...
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fuck no lol all technology builds on itself except for mo...
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"well as all the original blueprints, footage, and tele...
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  08/13/26
Pretty sure its simulated data and they admit it, eg "t...
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Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor
  08/13/26
No, you're wrong about the footage. Some phases were simulat...
arousing coiffed sex offender corner
  08/13/26
GO BACK TO REDDIT GOD DAMN IT
Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor
  08/13/26
yeah the best way to look at it is your last paragraph it...
Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo
  08/13/26
Exactly. If people want to be solipistic sure you can't &quo...
arousing coiffed sex offender corner
  08/13/26
xo is filled with NPCs now who are overconfident, low in ana...
thirsty contagious theater stage
  08/13/26
The moon landing shit really highlights this. At least the c...
arousing coiffed sex offender corner
  08/13/26
you seem 1000x more invested in "narrative" over s...
wonderful fear-inspiring pervert coffee pot
  08/13/26
Yeah you're right I should definitely engage crank arguments...
thirsty contagious theater stage
  08/13/26
xo is filled with NPCs now who are overconfident, low in ana...
Pearly big hairy legs
  08/13/26
Retard there are plenty of experts who disagree with that. T...
arousing coiffed sex offender corner
  08/13/26
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Chestnut spot knife
  08/13/26
independent and detached from anything else being discussed ...
Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo
  08/13/26
Genderrattt I hope stays, regardless.
Chestnut spot knife
  08/13/26
I am sure the (((Soviets))) would want to get the truth out.
Floppy feces
  08/16/26
There's ton's of sketchy / wierd shit with the moon landings...
Heady red site milk
  08/12/26
Yes. I also believe the earth is spherical.
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  08/12/26
(Spherecuck)
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I would believe it if Russians or Iranians claimed it, but n...
Floppy feces
  08/13/26
I believe they did but the footage we’ve seen might no...
Crusty scarlet faggot firefighter
  08/13/26
Many oddities about it. Weirdest thing to me is that the sun...
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  08/13/26
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arousing coiffed sex offender corner
  08/13/26
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Floppy feces
  08/13/26
Haha its jist a weird coincidence. Haha.
Glittery pisswyrm
  08/13/26
"Everything is just one big accident and coincidence. Y...
Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth
  08/13/26
The moon landing makes no sense at all. If the moon is round...
lime hospital
  08/13/26
Try explain how they got there first instead of being a spar...
Chestnut spot knife
  08/13/26
Try to explain how they blasted off and made it back to Eart...
Floppy feces
  08/13/26
MODS
Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor
  08/13/26
feel like your retarded trolling itt has something to do wit...
bistre office trump supporter
  08/13/26
Yes, but it's flat.
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passionate ivory shitlib
  08/13/26
i guess so. it seems pretty sus but i just can't imagine kee...
cheese-eating stag film
  08/16/26
No
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Don't we have cameras that should be able to see footsteps e...
wine trip degenerate
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"You cannot see the actual hardware, lunar modules, or ...
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Lol
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Floppy feces
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boyish peach antidepressant drug
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Literally every "picture" of space is run through ...
Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth
  08/16/26
Yeah that was a let down to learn. Kind of like how all the ...
wine trip degenerate
  08/16/26
I have heard this before about the dinosaur bones...but can ...
Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth
  08/16/26
they don't find dinosaur bones, they find empty spaces in ro...
boyish peach antidepressant drug
  08/16/26
Holy shit. IRL lol. tyft
Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth
  08/16/26
At times that techreader article seemed like it was poking f...
Chestnut spot knife
  08/16/26
But the russians
motley dog poop
  08/18/26
https://www.twitch.tv/nasa IS THIS REAL?
thriller area rigor
  08/18/26
wow low earth orbit
Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor
  08/18/26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anil_Menon @azngirl
thriller area rigor
  08/18/26
yeah, no one here is arguing that humanity hasn't gone to lo...
boyish peach antidepressant drug
  08/18/26
i'll give NASA credit, they're really committed to the fraud...
cheese-eating stag film
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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:51 PM
Author: Salmon rebellious mad cow disease

I think we've been lied to our entire lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062306)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:52 PM
Author: maroon cruel-hearted location

You could have a long discussion with AI about this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062312)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: bespoke bateful nursing home

You’re a moron if you’re even asking this q

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062315)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:30 AM
Author: thirsty contagious theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062694)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 6:17 AM
Author: olive exhilarant roast beef



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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: lime hospital

yes you fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062323)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: Salmon rebellious mad cow disease

(boomer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062361)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062325)



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Date: August 11th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor

No

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062327)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:24 AM
Author: Salmon rebellious mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062682)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:27 AM
Author: Stimulating mildly autistic plaza

i believe yes but i wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be a hoax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062687)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:28 AM
Author: thirsty contagious theater stage

the chances of it not being real are about as close to mathematically zero as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062693)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:31 AM
Author: Stimulating mildly autistic plaza

i haven't actually looked into it much tbh. you are a knowledgeable and intelligent poaster so i believe you if you say it happened

does your answer change if we narrow the claim to US astronauts walking on the moon in 1969?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062695)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:27 AM
Author: thirsty contagious theater stage

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062689)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:28 AM
Author: autistic electric church building

When you look at all the other shit we did in the 50s and 60s it doesn't seem far fetched. No one doubted it at the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062691)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:28 AM
Author: hot milky native people who are hurt

Go ask Buzz Aldrin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062692)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:35 AM
Author: Spectacular Metal National Security Agency Market

let me put it this way, and this is how any disinterested rational person would view it: there are serious questions about every piece of 'evidence' they have provided, and serious questions about the lengths they went to *not* to provide (or not to preserve in the case of the telemetry data, etc) irrefutable, unequivocal evidence supporting a claim as incredible as 'we went to the moon.'

every piece of evidence, without exception, is dubious on many levels.

this makes any rational person begin to wonder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062700)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:43 AM
Author: thirsty contagious theater stage

Almost any historical event can be made to look suspicious if you isolate each piece of evidence and demand that it be individually “irrefutable” and “unequivocal.” It’s a typical crank pattern to list off objections to individual pieces of evidence like that without inheriting the explanatory burden of an alternate hypothesis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062706)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:44 AM
Author: brilliant provocative stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062708)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:49 AM
Author: Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062710)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:52 AM
Author: Spectacular Metal National Security Agency Market

all the more reason for them to have planned ahead and provided strong evidence, rather than simply saying: "hey, we took these 5 cropped photos that look exactly like the Lost in Space TV show set we just happened to build for 'astronaut training' at NASA which is visible in other pre-mission photos. anyway, gotta go!"

it would have been very simple to avoid/mitigate the controversy. instead, they went out of their way not to avoid it (by providing only the weakest possible forms of evidence), which any rational person would find suspect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062711)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 1:44 AM
Author: Salmon rebellious mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062770)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:00 PM
Author: Pearly big hairy legs

good point, but, otoh, we do have clear and convincing evidence that these people are overconfident, inept boobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065577)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

But genderrattt says that other, smarter people didn't call out the lie- so ive no choice but to believe it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065639)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:08 AM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

We can literally bounce lasers off the reflectors we placed on the moon.

Moon landing deniers are closer to flat earthers. There is unanimous third party cooberation from every international space program (including hostile nations that have every incentive to deny it if it was possible) that we landed on the moon. To believe it is fake means you must think that you've uncovered a massive, unanimous, international conspiracy. This is absurd on it's face, moreso that you're just some shithead and not a rocket scientist who can actually make an in intellient analysis of the data.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062971)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:17 AM
Author: Spectacular Metal National Security Agency Market

the 'reflectors' don't prove that anyone 'walked on the moon' and drove go-carts on the moon as claimed. multiple reflectors have been placed on the moon (and on Mars) without requiring a manned landing. people who bring them up are dimwits.

the 'evidence' of a moonwalk amounts to the following argument: 'Uh, if we HAD in fact faked the landing, surely the Russians would have said something! So QED! That proves we did it.'

plus: a few very dodgy photos and the retarded 'feather drop.'

that's it? it's very weak evidence, objectively. anyone who cannot admit this is not worth engaging.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062974)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:19 AM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

Please identify yourself so I can disregard everything you say from now on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062976)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:21 AM
Author: Spectacular Metal National Security Agency Market

you're very snarky for a retarded turd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062980)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:27 AM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

Why are you reluctant to ascribe your already anonymous xoxo moniker to this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062986)



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Date: August 15th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: Salmon rebellious mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50070302)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 7:36 AM
Author: lime hospital

this used to be a high IQ bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062941)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:55 PM
Author: bistre office trump supporter

you literally are the dumbest person to have ever posted (not poasted) here you actual retarded tranny pedophile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065763)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 7:56 AM
Author: laughsome chapel

yeah; this isn't in any particular doubt. especially since it was repeated several times over several years. the retroreflectors are still up there; you can ping them with the right equipment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062962)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:03 AM
Author: Maniacal new version cuckoldry

All during the Nixon admin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062968)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:46 AM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

I cant define stupid but I know it when I see it

Your poast is it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063230)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:03 AM
Author: Maniacal new version cuckoldry

I still can’t see an argument against the video of them fucking around with the interior of the ship to seemingly make the earth look further away. I’ve never seen anyone try to address that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062966)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:12 AM
Author: autistic electric church building

Shot with a wide angle lens?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063154)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:47 AM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

Link to that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063232)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:32 AM
Author: thriller area rigor

no i think its too hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50062995)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:10 AM
Author: lime hospital

this is basically what this conspiracy theory boils down to. cons know it would be too hard for them so they naturally conclude it would be impossible for high IQ human engineers to do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063149)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:49 AM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

On the contrary as a simpleton I see amazing people do incredible shit all day long that advance humanity, like the covid vaccines, and I take them at their word completely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063235)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:33 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063530)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:42 PM
Author: motley dog poop

Not really. It would be easy to believe if we werent presented with a lot of weird behavior such as gifting moon rocks to foreign dignitaries that turn out to be petrified wood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063552)



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Date: August 15th, 2026 10:34 PM
Author: Salmon rebellious mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50070305)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:54 PM
Author: bistre office trump supporter

way to have the worst fucking take yet again on yet another you tranny retard pedophile. of all the various conspiracy theories to come out of the 20th/21st centuries the moon landing being either completely faked and/or the footage being staged is second to only JFK in that it's possibly true.

it's basic analysis. you look at motive -> opportunity -> process to implement -> expected results. if process to implement is very difficult you simplify it so you can achieve the expected results.

endless retarded shitposting like this is why you get nulloed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065761)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 10:50 AM
Author: Jade Cerebral Hell Goal In Life

I dont believe it happened in the 1960s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063236)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 12:33 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50063528)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 7:53 PM
Author: Bonkers Cruise Ship

Yes. The USSR and others had no incentive to support the US lying about this. If people were paid off people would come forward and talk about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064504)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

Read your Consuela. Its all one system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064601)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:01 PM
Author: motley dog poop

The USSR had lots of incentive to support the US lying about this as a face saving way to bow out of the impossible space race and use the money on defense of Chinese border.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065458)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:17 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

They could have bowed out by exposing the lie.

The real explanation is Consuelas One World System theory, i.e. the cold war was fake as hell just like the current Ukr/Rus nonsense and the Iran b.s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065477)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:36 PM
Author: motley dog poop

If they exposed the lie, they would have had to continue working on the program in an effort to beat the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065526)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

The point is they could have simply proved that this shit is physically impossible and had a team ready to expose the US for a fraction of the cost.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065590)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:10 PM
Author: motley dog poop

No, they could not have put comissar fagotsky on a lectern saying "yeah I know we said for decades that we would achieve this for the glory of the soviet union but because of gravitational lensing (just look it up) we are just going to quit now," meanwhile scientists, generals and politicians are all dependent in one way or another on the moon program continuing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065615)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

Ok you got me. There are numerous reasons the Soviets may not have wanted to call our bluff, I agree.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065652)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:27 PM
Author: motley dog poop

Highly respectable concession, well met and I doff my fedora

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065671)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:38 PM
Author: Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo

that this demonstrably false worldview is the only possible explanation that could explain the moon landing not being real is, in itself, epistemic proof that the moon landing was real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065528)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:06 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

Explain why you think nation states are an eternal institution and somehow the tendency of power to consolidate halts at the nation state level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065600)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: Adventurous slimy famous landscape painting

The 2015 Stormfront poster incursion and its consequences have been a disaster for autoadmit.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064509)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 7:58 PM
Author: motley dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064515)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064588)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 6:17 AM
Author: Lilac Exciting Quadroon Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065087)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 3:37 PM
Author: Vibrant tripping set love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065967)



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Date: August 15th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: bespoke bateful nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50070303)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 7:58 PM
Author: Low-t stage multi-billionaire

fuck no lol

all technology builds on itself except for moonlanding tech, which mysteriously disappears, as well as all the original blueprints, footage, and telemetry data

hell, they even made a recent movie with scarlett johannensen about how it was wink wink nudge nudge faked

whatever reflectors are on the moon are either a natural phenomenon or landed there like landing a mars rover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064513)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064551)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:11 PM
Author: boyish peach antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064553)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

"well as all the original blueprints, footage, and telemetry data"

WTF are you talking about? All this stuff is available. If you want to argue it's faked I'd say you're stupid but it is a colorable claim. Saying it's non-existent is just objectively wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065447)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:00 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

Pretty sure its simulated data and they admit it, eg "this is what the data looked like" vs actually recordings.

Same as what they do with dinosaur bones, and iirc same playbook for sequencing Covid19 "virus"

Also btw the footage is absolutely not available, they dont even pretend with that one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065456)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:24 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065488)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:25 PM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

No, you're wrong about the footage. Some phases were simulated that couldn't be recorded but the most important shit, i.e. walking on the moon, was not.

Also the telemetry data was conducted by ordinary, unencrypted radio. It was independently confirmed by many other nations, universities, and individuals. This includes the Soviets, who monitored it very closely and had every incentive to poke holes in it if it.

Other space programs have also captured evidence if the lunar landing from their own photos. This also includes hostile countries that have every incentive to claim it's fake.

The moon landing is impossible to fake you retards. As if the US had the ability to prevent anyone from watching it just like NASA with their own equipment, or sending their own probes to observe the landing sites since. To be believe it's fake you have to believe ALL the other space agencies, indepdendent universities, etc across the world with the equipment to verify it are in ln the conspiracy. But you, some retard who thinks "They admitted the recordings are simulated!" when you could take 2 seconds to find out they DID NOT say that, cracked the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065493)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:27 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor

GO BACK TO REDDIT GOD DAMN IT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065501)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:33 PM
Author: Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo

yeah the best way to look at it is your last paragraph

it's like consuela claiming, in full "sincerity," that he believes that every single scientist in the entire world with access to microscopes and genetic sequencing (tens of millions of people) is lying about the covid virus being different from the common flu virus

no one actually believes this, just like nobody really believes in the moon landing being faked once they're forced to look at it in this way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065519)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:55 PM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

Exactly. If people want to be solipistic sure you can't "know" anything you didn't personally witness happened just like I can't "know" Israel exists because I've never been there.

But anyone with the means can indepently confirm the COVID genome, the curvature of the Earth, and the moon landing site. These retards think everyone that does so today is lying but can't be assed to do it themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065568)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: thirsty contagious theater stage

xo is filled with NPCs now who are overconfident, low in analytic thinking disposition, and more invested in the narrative than in accuracy. They just mindlessly believe everything conspiracy content generators cook up. If a conspiracy content creator on twitter says that covid or global warming isn't real or that we didn't land on the moon they are just like HURRRR DURRRR must be true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065574)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

The moon landing shit really highlights this. At least the conspiracy retards can postulate a motive for everyone lying about COVID or something. But why the fuck would there be an coordinated international conspiracy to fake the moon landing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065588)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: wonderful fear-inspiring pervert coffee pot

you seem 1000x more invested in "narrative" over substance than anyone else here. you haven't made a single substantive point.

you're just spamming cunty midwit ad hom that only makes you look like the "overconfident" retard you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065606)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: thirsty contagious theater stage

Yeah you're right I should definitely engage crank arguments on their own "merits"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065959)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:09 PM
Author: Pearly big hairy legs

xo is filled with NPCs now who are overconfident, low in analytic thinking disposition, and more invested in the narrative than in accuracy. They just mindlessly believe everything the official sources cook up. If some retarded government “scientist” says that gender or biological race isn't real or that covid came from a wet market they are just like HURRRR DURRRR must be true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065611)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

Retard there are plenty of experts who disagree with that. There's even scientists who are skeptical about climate change. This isn't about theories that can't be objectively proven, it's about objective facts that can be independently verified.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065641)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:19 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065643)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: Garnet fiercely-loyal double fault tattoo

independent and detached from anything else being discussed in this thread, i really don't think this is true. xo has actually gotten much more anti-establishment narrative over time. this place used to be full of dorky earnest cookie cutter millennial libs and those people are mostly gone now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065667)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:39 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

Genderrattt I hope stays, regardless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065715)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 11:18 AM
Author: Floppy feces

I am sure the (((Soviets))) would want to get the truth out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071020)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:21 PM
Author: Heady red site milk

There's ton's of sketchy / wierd shit with the moon landings, but yes, they did walk (and drive) on the moon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064572)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:24 PM
Author: Lilac Exciting Quadroon Shrine

Yes. I also believe the earth is spherical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50064576)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:46 AM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner

(Spherecuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065451)



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Date: August 18th, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: Lilac Exciting Quadroon Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50075548)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Floppy feces

I would believe it if Russians or Iranians claimed it, but not Americans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065498)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:19 PM
Author: Crusty scarlet faggot firefighter

I believe they did but the footage we’ve seen might not be real. If you look at live things filmed in the 60s and before, the camera is shaky, the sound is bad, the color and lighting are off, etc. The moon footage looks too clean and perfect. I wonder if they “fixed it in post” like they do with movies or live albums.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065646)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:37 PM
Author: Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth

Many oddities about it. Weirdest thing to me is that the sun and moon are each at a distance from the Earth that effectively makes them the same size in our sky. I'm sure there is some (((explanation))) for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065706)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:37 PM
Author: arousing coiffed sex offender corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065709)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:46 PM
Author: Floppy feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065741)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 2:29 PM
Author: Glittery pisswyrm

Haha its jist a weird coincidence. Haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065833)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 6:14 PM
Author: Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth

"Everything is just one big accident and coincidence. You only think something is important because you are here and your brain is trying to make sense of the randomness of Our Universe" - jewish forcememed "physicist" trying (and failing) to minimize the Majesty of God's Creation so that we'll all be better consumers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50066234)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: lime hospital

The moon landing makes no sense at all. If the moon is round and they landed on the side of it then why didn’t they fall off? I’ve never seen anyone explain this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50065994)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 4:03 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

Try explain how they got there first instead of being a sparky dumbass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50066023)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:05 PM
Author: Floppy feces

Try to explain how they blasted off and made it back to Earth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50066129)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor

MODS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50066169)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 4:10 PM
Author: bistre office trump supporter

feel like your retarded trolling itt has something to do with elon musk and the whole twitter thing. was him buying twitter and stopping it from being a total lib echo chamber like the internet TDS loser equivalent of getting your home eminent domained?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50066039)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 4:14 PM
Author: mind-boggling selfie house

Yes, but it's flat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50066051)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 6:47 PM
Author: passionate ivory shitlib

bell_curve.jpg

https://imgflip.com/i/aysrbp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50066299)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 11:20 AM
Author: cheese-eating stag film

i guess so. it seems pretty sus but i just can't imagine keeping that many people quiet about it if it was fake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071024)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 11:35 AM
Author: Excitant dysfunction business firm

No

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071053)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 11:52 AM
Author: wine trip degenerate

Don't we have cameras that should be able to see footsteps etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071081)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: cheese-eating stag film

"You cannot see the actual hardware, lunar modules, or flags left behind on the Moon using a telescope from Earth. The equipment left behind is far too small; resolving an object the size of an Apollo lunar module (about 4 meters wide) from Earth would require an optical telescope mirror hundreds of meters wide. Earth's atmosphere also blurs details beyond that tiny scale."

but hey check out this black hole 5,000 light years away!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071087)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:00 PM
Author: wine trip degenerate

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071093)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:53 PM
Author: Floppy feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071242)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:54 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071248)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 12:57 PM
Author: boyish peach antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071255)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth

Literally every "picture" of space is run through a series of 3D graphics programs. So everything in "space" that we are shown is basically just CGI. It's actually fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071263)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 1:14 PM
Author: wine trip degenerate

Yeah that was a let down to learn. Kind of like how all the dinosaur skeletons are fake too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071291)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 1:21 PM
Author: Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth

I have heard this before about the dinosaur bones...but can you elaborate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071305)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 1:27 PM
Author: boyish peach antidepressant drug

they don't find dinosaur bones, they find empty spaces in rocks where they allege dinosaurs were and fill the empty spaces in with resin

also see here

https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5195472&mc=141&forum_id=2#45198099

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071333)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 2:15 PM
Author: Out-of-control brunch scourge upon the earth

Holy shit. IRL lol. tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50071411)



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Date: August 16th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Chestnut spot knife

At times that techreader article seemed like it was poking fun at dinosaur-denial... couldn't tell. Break that down for a 100iq guy please.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50072162)



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Date: August 18th, 2026 11:04 AM
Author: motley dog poop

But the russians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892181&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50075397)



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Date: August 18th, 2026 11:05 AM
Author: thriller area rigor

https://www.twitch.tv/nasa

IS THIS REAL?

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Date: August 18th, 2026 11:22 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle federal fortuitous meteor

wow low earth orbit

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Date: August 18th, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: thriller area rigor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anil_Menon

@azngirl

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Date: August 18th, 2026 11:30 AM
Author: boyish peach antidepressant drug

yeah, no one here is arguing that humanity hasn't gone to low earth orbit, wtf

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Date: August 18th, 2026 11:23 AM
Author: cheese-eating stag film

i'll give NASA credit, they're really committed to the fraudlies.

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