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Confucius was loser clique Plato was prep clique hth
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Date: July 19th, 2026 7:44 AM Author: glassy wonderful sound barrier house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50009531) |
Date: July 19th, 2026 7:55 AM Author: curious sticky lodge pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50009534) |
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Date: July 19th, 2026 7:58 AM Author: curious sticky lodge pozpig MFCR. Plato received an elite education, and served in the elite cavalry during the Peloponnesian war (reserved for citizens who could afford horses). Used his family money to buy the land to establish the Academy, which he ran without charging tuition. Also financed his own decade long travels across the Mediterranean.
Confucius: Born into the Shi class. |
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Date: July 19th, 2026 8:07 AM Author: Buff Glittery Parlour i thought confucius had to rely on wealthy businessman student to feed his coterie and it lead to him hating businessmen and being pro landlord (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50009544) |
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Date: July 19th, 2026 8:08 AM Author: curious sticky lodge pozpig idk I just know confucius was poor. he grew up in a class reserved for families that were once wealthy but lost it all. his dad died when he was a child. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50009546) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:22 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease He was the equivalent of a state administrative law judge trying to get on the federal bench but never getting referred by a senator from that state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013166) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 7:59 PM Author: glassy wonderful sound barrier house Xenophon was jock though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013136) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:12 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease Plato's culture and society got wiped out and died. Literature, craftsmanship, everything gone. The people living in Greece today have no connection to those people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013153) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:16 PM Author: glassy wonderful sound barrier house Christianity was pretty rough on them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013160) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:19 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease It's the Catholic Church who told you that Plato and Aristotle were foundational. They told you Socrates was some kind of proto-Christian who believed in salvation of the spirit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013165) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:27 PM Author: curious sticky lodge pozpig Yeah for sure, the culture definitely got wiped out considering Plato, Aristotle and other Greeks are still read worldwide and considered the foundation of everything.
"People living in Greece have no connection to these people" is also silly, because the same can be said about any ancient culture. |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:31 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease Yeah the old traditions from 3,000 BC live on everywhere except Greece (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013179) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:38 PM Author: curious sticky lodge pozpig Egypt has this same issue. Actually even worse. Part of it is that people are looking at foreign classicism and comparing it to the average Greek. But I wouldn't say it's false that Greeks care about their ancient history and culture. Plenty of them do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013191) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:48 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease You can't show a modern Greek person an archaeological dig from 3,000 BC and have it feel familiar to him. The Chinese culture ran uninterrupted so that it still carries authentic tradition from that era. Chinese people encountering Confucius today are unfortunately receiving only the state-sanctioned interpretation, but that's not new - the Analects have always been read selectively by anyone in power. But they've been read continuously
They are also much more pacifist than anything written between the New Testament and the 17th century. They're really part of a broader effort to avoid war. And in that sense too the Analects have been more successful than Plato. You don't see ANYONE in the western tradition really question the sanity of neverending war until Grotius. Western philosophers really only decided about 50 years ago that war is bad, and even now not really |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 9:16 PM Author: curious sticky lodge pozpig Ok bro give your definition of what cultural and historical continuity actually mean and we can do a comparative analysis. I think it’s highly likely you aren’t doing historiography and are just overfitting whatever evidence you can to make it seem like China is the civilization with True Continuity. But let’s see your definition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013256) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 9:18 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease people using the same calendar and celebrating the same holidays the same way as people who lived there 5,000 years ago. They're also eating the same food. Their lifestyle revolves around the harvest of the same crop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013263) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 9:21 PM Author: Pea-brained point The lifestyle of your modern Chinese person revolves around working an office job 996 to buy labubus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013277) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 9:22 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease ok you win (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013279) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease "Chinese civilization is the oldest continuous civilization in the world, with origins dating back over 4,000 years. It began in the Neolithic period along the Yellow and Yangtze river valleys, eventually coalescing into early, organized societies."
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:40 PM Author: curious sticky lodge pozpig 180 ai hallucination. There was no single political entity called China persisting for 4,000 years. The modern territory and political identity of China cannot simply be projected backward onto every society that existed within some portion of today’s borders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013196) |
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Date: July 20th, 2026 8:54 PM Author: Excitant avocado parlor mad cow disease The #2 oldest continuous civilization is Persia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5884098&forum_id=2phpsessid=49d358651c#50013220) |