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Kirkland says it's spending $500 MILLION to build its own in-house AI

How the fuck is there not a thread on this already? http...
carmine lodge
  05/28/26
seems like a good indicator this profession is fucked
Concupiscible apoplectic address dopamine
  05/28/26
Uhh, it shows lawyers are more cash rich than Larry Ellison
carmine lodge
  05/28/26
Kirkland ​said its platform would be designed based on inf...
coiffed ratface
  05/28/26
Divide 500,000,000 by those numbers in your head
carmine lodge
  05/28/26
LMFAO. How does it feel to be one of Kirkland’s like ...
thirsty greedy stage becky
  05/29/26
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fiercely-loyal theater
  05/29/26
au contraire. rainmaker share partners dont need their brian...
floppy scarlet parlour
  05/29/26
Pity the derivatives, credit agreement, fund formation water...
thirsty greedy stage becky
  05/29/26
#All_Service_Partners: Report to conference room 42A on Mond...
floppy scarlet parlour
  05/29/26
but first they're going to wear google glasses for 6 months ...
boyish self-absorbed stage fortuitous meteor
  05/29/26
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floppy scarlet parlour
  05/29/26
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multi-colored market
  05/29/26
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dark talking native
  05/29/26
but dbg assured me he would be safe
Rebellious roommate
  05/28/26
Does he work there with knowledge that partners were hoardin...
carmine lodge
  05/28/26
this makes no fucking sense at all. whoever makes the best ...
godawful background story masturbator
  05/28/26
they probably tried claude code and think they can do anythi...
Concupiscible apoplectic address dopamine
  05/28/26
https://x.com/i/status/2060128889377304715
carmine lodge
  05/28/26
Fucking 180 Claude, run a 50 State search for "summa...
primrose titillating azn
  05/29/26
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godawful background story masturbator
  05/29/26
It'll be some bullshit wrapper on something else. They'll ma...
Kink-friendly curious field
  05/29/26
Absolutely this, people are delusional to think you are reac...
Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS
  09/01/26
...
harnessman
  09/01/26
just a chill 7 dollars per 1 dollar food court hot dog
lime internet-worthy potus dilemma
  05/28/26
Lmao $500 million isn’t gonna do shit. Westlaw tried s...
Underhanded appetizing stag film sandwich
  05/29/26
probably worth them reaching out to a frontier lab and stipu...
cerebral library death wish
  05/29/26
They could buy 5% of Anthropic right now with the same cash ...
pink tank
  05/29/26
which would not quite solve their problem, but does indicate...
cerebral library death wish
  05/29/26
It would if their problem is making more $
pink tank
  05/29/26
Lawfirms don't have the money for that lol
exciting carnelian chad
  05/29/26
That's like 4x Harvey's valuation which is already more over...
pink tank
  05/29/26
Fucking savages on XO. They're just going to create a Kirkla...
dun idiot
  05/29/26
an AI that is, on balance, in balance
floppy scarlet parlour
  05/29/26
...
cerebral library death wish
  05/29/26
100%
Flushed talented area people who are hurt
  05/29/26
This doesn't cost $500 million. By the way, they could do a...
180 Hospital
  05/30/26
For them to self-host their the LLM server for 800 users usi...
carmine lodge
  05/30/26
...
harnessman
  09/01/26
I thought this meant COSTCO Kirkland-brand AI
Charcoal stock car
  05/29/26
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Ass Problems
  09/01/26
so ~570 equity partners voted to forego ~$900k each to inves...
boyish self-absorbed stage fortuitous meteor
  05/29/26
even scarier stuff for service partners rofl
floppy scarlet parlour
  05/29/26
yeah i imagine the associates will all get cut and the servi...
boyish self-absorbed stage fortuitous meteor
  05/29/26
I think you mean the 1/3rd of the equity partners who surviv...
dull locus
  05/29/26
This is Huge.
Vibrant slimy piazza brethren
  05/29/26
*creates dynamic pricing model to change the cost of Kirklan...
translucent alcoholic sneaky criminal
  05/29/26
JFC they’re not *actually doing this, it’s just ...
Mauve antidepressant drug
  05/29/26
that's all these announcements ever are and people keep fall...
cerise corner
  05/29/26
Aren't you an Engineer? Can't you use it to Engineer shit be...
Vibrant slimy piazza brethren
  05/29/26
https://x.com/i/status/2060128889377304715
carmine lodge
  05/29/26
nutella vindicated again. got her cute shoes and jumped ship
citrine location dog poop
  05/29/26
Soft-serve cones of scholarship getting extruded from Kirkla...
flirting point
  05/29/26
Lmao funny we’re all lawyers and the first thing we th...
Underhanded appetizing stag film sandwich
  05/30/26
This is over the next 3-4 years. They would have spent more ...
Nighttime University Mental Disorder
  05/29/26
They absolutely would not spend $125-$200 million/year on th...
180 Hospital
  05/30/26
I guess I can finally reveal to everyone that I work in bigl...
Flushed talented area people who are hurt
  05/29/26
No litigator AIs, please
Charismatic effete cruise ship
  05/29/26
why not spend $5 million on one? Or $50 million? Are you tel...
Bespoke opaque headpube
  05/29/26
Or just pay for some premium ChatGPT up to date package for ...
Underhanded appetizing stag film sandwich
  05/30/26
ChatGPT is shit, but Claude/Harvey (which is an overlay on C...
180 Hospital
  05/30/26
Whatever they are trying to do, the software is still in its...
carmine lodge
  05/30/26
Claude is literally perfect. Investing even one cent in some...
.- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .
  09/01/26
my former firm, bottom-of-the-barrel "biglaw" firm...
Yeshua Teitelbaum, Secretary of Interior
  09/01/26
Don't care as long as their toilet paper stays cheap.
"'"''""""'
  09/01/26


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Date: May 28th, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: carmine lodge

How the fuck is there not a thread on this already?

https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/law-firm-kirkland-spend-500-million-developing-its-own-ai-platform-2026-05-28/

Just a chill $625k per lawyer going to Jensen Huang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49905873)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: Concupiscible apoplectic address dopamine

seems like a good indicator this profession is fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49905901)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: carmine lodge

Uhh, it shows lawyers are more cash rich than Larry Ellison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49905907)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: coiffed ratface

Kirkland ​said its platform would be designed based on information from 250 Kirkland lawyers ​and would involve more than 180 technology professionals inside and outside the firm.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49905906)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 10:36 PM
Author: carmine lodge

Divide 500,000,000 by those numbers in your head

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49905910)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 11:27 AM
Author: thirsty greedy stage becky

LMFAO. How does it feel to be one of Kirkland’s like 4,000 other attorneys whose brains aren’t worthy of being digitized. What a fucking indictment, holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906516)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906522)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: floppy scarlet parlour

au contraire. rainmaker share partners dont need their brians digitized. the service partners whose brains have now been digitized are now on the chopping block.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906546)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: thirsty greedy stage becky

Pity the derivatives, credit agreement, fund formation waterfall, and tax McKirkland “partners” who have each spent a 60K hours over the last 20 years grinding out the same repetitive 5.7/9.8 drafting and negotiation tasks who are getting digitized. And they’re terminally non-equity, so they’re not sharing in any of the upside of this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906623)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:53 PM
Author: floppy scarlet parlour

#All_Service_Partners: Report to conference room 42A on Monday at 9am so we can digitize your brain and fire you. Thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906635)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: boyish self-absorbed stage fortuitous meteor

but first they're going to wear google glasses for 6 months to record everything they do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906658)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:05 PM
Author: floppy scarlet parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906663)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:02 PM
Author: multi-colored market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906654)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: dark talking native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906829)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:26 PM
Author: Rebellious roommate

but dbg assured me he would be safe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906019)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:27 PM
Author: carmine lodge

Does he work there with knowledge that partners were hoarding $500 million all this time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906021)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:47 PM
Author: godawful background story masturbator

this makes no fucking sense at all. whoever makes the best general purpose AI model, will also make the best AI model for the law. it's not like kirkland will manage to make anything better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906055)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:51 PM
Author: Concupiscible apoplectic address dopamine

they probably tried claude code and think they can do anything now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906060)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:52 PM
Author: carmine lodge

https://x.com/i/status/2060128889377304715

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906064)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: primrose titillating azn

Fucking 180

Claude, run a 50 State search for "summary judgment standard" thank

Now do the same task 800 times per week thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906570)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:09 PM
Author: godawful background story masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906673)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:35 PM
Author: Kink-friendly curious field

It'll be some bullshit wrapper on something else. They'll market it as "The Kirkland Difference"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906605)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS

Absolutely this, people are delusional to think you are reaching the frontier for $500m.

It will be a wrapper or something like post-training an open model

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#50108758)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 12:24 PM
Author: harnessman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#50108762)



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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:59 PM
Author: lime internet-worthy potus dilemma

just a chill 7 dollars per 1 dollar food court hot dog

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906074)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: Underhanded appetizing stag film sandwich

Lmao $500 million isn’t gonna do shit. Westlaw tried some ai bullshit and it’s not as good as chat cpt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906529)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 11:44 AM
Author: cerebral library death wish

probably worth them reaching out to a frontier lab and stipulating:

-- "we want our own airgapped model specifically tuned and trained in the following ways"

-- "you won't have any ongoing compute cost for this because it'll be on our own hardware -- fire and forget revenue infusion for you"

-- "this isn't creating opportunity cost for you because we can't use your API model anyway due to client restrictions (e.g. IP litigation tech clients won't let any material be run through frontier LLMs)"

probably worth a pitch because AI niggers need MONEY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906543)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: pink tank

They could buy 5% of Anthropic right now with the same cash based on its current market cap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906593)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:45 PM
Author: cerebral library death wish

which would not quite solve their problem, but does indicate that they could at least get a meeting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906619)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: pink tank

It would if their problem is making more $

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907213)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: exciting carnelian chad

Lawfirms don't have the money for that lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906555)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:16 PM
Author: pink tank

That's like 4x Harvey's valuation which is already more overcooked than any SAAS provider in any industry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906583)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:34 PM
Author: dun idiot

Fucking savages on XO. They're just going to create a Kirkland-specific wrapper on a third-party platform. They want to have more customization and in-house control over shit. They'll have it trained on more in-house work product. They'll be able to integrate with ediscovery vendors and the like. They'll solve some of the confidentiality concerns. It's not "inventing AI" or some dumb shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906601)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:45 PM
Author: floppy scarlet parlour

an AI that is, on balance, in balance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906618)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:46 PM
Author: cerebral library death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906621)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 6:51 PM
Author: Flushed talented area people who are hurt

100%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907043)



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Date: May 30th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: 180 Hospital

This doesn't cost $500 million. By the way, they could do all of this with a Harvey AI sub at a small fraction of the price. They could also create some customization for Claude and spend even less. The only way to spend $500 million on this is pure incompetence or theft.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907810)



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Date: May 30th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: carmine lodge

For them to self-host their the LLM server for 800 users using open weight models, with full time support staff, would be maybe $10mm yr tops. They could do it for $5 million/yr I bet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907840)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: harnessman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#50108696)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:36 PM
Author: Charcoal stock car

I thought this meant COSTCO Kirkland-brand AI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906607)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 12:11 PM
Author: Ass Problems



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#50108703)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: boyish self-absorbed stage fortuitous meteor

so ~570 equity partners voted to forego ~$900k each to invest in this. they must have ran the numbers and decided the potential associate savings were worth it. pretty scary stuff for young lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906627)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:55 PM
Author: floppy scarlet parlour

even scarier stuff for service partners rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906641)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 12:56 PM
Author: boyish self-absorbed stage fortuitous meteor

yeah i imagine the associates will all get cut and the service partners will be docked down to associate pay levels and the equity partners will fucking ball out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906643)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: dull locus

I think you mean the 1/3rd of the equity partners who survive this will ball out even more than they already are balling out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906805)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: Vibrant slimy piazza brethren

This is Huge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906653)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:05 PM
Author: translucent alcoholic sneaky criminal

*creates dynamic pricing model to change the cost of Kirkland brand Extra Virgin Olive Oil depending upon predicted customer behaviors*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906662)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: Mauve antidepressant drug

JFC they’re not *actually doing this, it’s just advertising to dumbfuck GCs. They might as well have said $1 BILLION to be doubly impressive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906819)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: cerise corner

that's all these announcements ever are and people keep falling for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906832)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 6:47 PM
Author: Vibrant slimy piazza brethren

Aren't you an Engineer? Can't you use it to Engineer shit better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907032)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 6:34 PM
Author: carmine lodge

https://x.com/i/status/2060128889377304715

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907018)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 3:29 PM
Author: citrine location dog poop

nutella vindicated again. got her cute shoes and jumped ship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906822)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: flirting point

Soft-serve cones of scholarship getting extruded from Kirkland's AI law slop dispenser

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906841)



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Date: May 30th, 2026 1:56 PM
Author: Underhanded appetizing stag film sandwich

Lmao funny we’re all lawyers and the first thing we thought of was Costco.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907711)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 4:00 PM
Author: Nighttime University Mental Disorder

This is over the next 3-4 years. They would have spent more than that on tokens and AI licenses anyway given the nature of their business. Not really news IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49906858)



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Date: May 30th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: 180 Hospital

They absolutely would not spend $125-$200 million/year on this if they just went with an existing solution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907815)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Flushed talented area people who are hurt

I guess I can finally reveal to everyone that I work in biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907039)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: Charismatic effete cruise ship

No litigator AIs, please

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907209)



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Date: May 29th, 2026 10:01 PM
Author: Bespoke opaque headpube

why not spend $5 million on one? Or $50 million? Are you telling me a team of 10 or so capable software engineers couldn’t build whatever Kirkland wants it to do for that much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907238)



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Date: May 30th, 2026 1:57 PM
Author: Underhanded appetizing stag film sandwich

Or just pay for some premium ChatGPT up to date package for everyone and tell them to use chat GPT.

Also I’m guessing we’re gonna start having shit like Kirkland Costco (powered by ChatGPT) very soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907714)



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Date: May 30th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: 180 Hospital

ChatGPT is shit, but Claude/Harvey (which is an overlay on Claude) or Gemini are all fine. You can get enterprise subs with terms that will care for confidentiality concerns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907812)



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Date: May 30th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: carmine lodge

Whatever they are trying to do, the software is still in its infancy and no one has actually cured the hallucination problem, or the randomly-speaking-chinese problem, or the "it doesn't understand human psychology" problem. All of these platforms are still dogshit right now. They can't even OCR well. There are SAAS companies advertising cloud OCR platforms to law firms, and they brag that they do NOT use AI.

There's also no benefit to training an AI on client data vs transforming client data into vector databases. In fact it it's worse, because every time there's a new development you have to retrain the model, rather than just updating some vector database of client files. And vector databases cost nothing to deploy and maintain. This really looks like fake news to me and I don't understand why Kirkland announced this to Thomson Reuters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#49907842)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 12:12 PM
Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. .

Claude is literally perfect. Investing even one cent in something proprietary when Claude is already this good is just lighting money on fire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#50108707)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 12:21 PM
Author: Yeshua Teitelbaum, Secretary of Interior ((zurich is stained))

my former firm, bottom-of-the-barrel "biglaw" firm baker hostetler, had some kind of automated "associate" several years ago, named "eric" or "bob" or something. no idea what it did, but given where the technology was back then it was probably laughably bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#50108747)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: "'"''""""'

Don't care as long as their toilet paper stays cheap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5869753&forum_id=2~#50108760)