DNC is panicking over impact of Bernie downticket
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Date: February 6th, 2020 1:58 PM Author: Coral area
They can live with Biden losing to Trump and not having the White House for another four years. But if Bernie is the nominee, every county sewer commissioner running for reelection for the fifth time is endangered. To say nothing of all but the most liberal Dems in Congress.
This is why they're going buckwild trying to stop Bernie.
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:10 PM Author: heady stag film karate
Bernie might as well be part of the trump campaign. He’s a virus using the Democratic Party as a host. They can’t go nuclear on him without alienating his base. he’s seriously damaging other candidates with a better shot at winning the general. And if he wins the primary he might alienate the suburbs for a generation.
Corbyn’s impact on Labour is instructive no matter how much you shriek that it isn’t.
Bernie is political AIDS for Democrats imo. Personally I wish they’d openly kick him out of the party and shit on his base so aggressively that they take voters from trump. I’d vote for a dem that does that. Then again I’m prob not the best proxy for the average voter
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:15 PM Author: Spruce gaming laptop
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@TheZBlog Why does the Dem/media establishment hate Sanders? I don't mean hate of the nature they have for Trump, but a definite strong dislike. I've heard the hot takes, but none strike me as getting at the heart of the hatred. He's a communist. Ok, but that's workable to Dems. They'll just rein him in a bit if he wins. He's unelectable. Maybe, but so is the rest of the field (including Biden now that he's tarnished). He's anti-Wall Street. That could be it, but what Dem can't be bought off by their Wall St patronage network?
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My pet theory is a take on Paul Gottfried's take on German Jews versus Eastern Jews. Bernie is a shtetl Jew. He's an uncomfortable reminder of the not so distant past for the cosmopolitans of today's managerial class. He is their loser uncle who wears white socks and high waters.
The new class, the sophisticated urbanites, who populate corporate offices, college faculty and politics look down on guys like Sanders for the same reason they look down on Trump. It's about class, not policy. Nixon ran into the same buzz saw in the 1970's.
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:17 PM Author: heady stag film karate
Fracking ban for $2000 gas, 20% unemployment in PA and cascading bankruptcies across the oil & gas industry
National rent control to make America San Francisco
Banning private health insurance, collapsing Pharma r&d spending, healthcare rationing
Total economic dystopia
How is that shit? We put people in prison for causing 3936292929x less harm to the country
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:58 PM Author: heady stag film karate
My economic assertions about the impact of electing him are totally logical inferences that I’m sure are shared by nearly all professional economists. It’s not a coincidence Bernie doesn’t have any (I’ve seen) advising him
As far as data, again no Democrat has gone scorched earth on him like trump will. Presumably you know about all of his baggage? Let’s see what his numbers look like in October if he’s the nominee.
Also I find it impossible to see him winning in PA (fracking is a huge part of the economy and supported by unions) or Florida (pro Castro, pro Chavez/Maduro socialists aren’t the dems that win that state)
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:06 PM Author: very tactful pit
yeah because trump had nuanced and specific answers to policy questions
its amazing that poli sci wonks STILL dont get that the average voter's tolerance for policy depth is an inch or two at most
"bbbut warren has such good PLANS!" lol
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Date: February 6th, 2020 5:11 PM Author: heady stag film karate
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The chances of Sanders actually becoming president, however, are also close to nil. I say this because in 2016 I got a glimpse of the Republican party’s opposition research book on Sanders, which was so massive it had to be transported on a cart. The Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald, who got to see some of its contents, declared that “it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn [Sanders] apart.”
According to Eichenwald, the book includes damning material such as the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermont’s nuclear waste to Texas where it would be dumped in a poor Hispanic community, that he honeymooned in the Soviet Union, and that he appeared at a 1985 rally in Nicaragua at which he shrieked “Here, there / the Yankee will die” alongside Sandinista supporters. And then there’s Sanders’ fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men…
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Also the donald might seize a seemingly preposterous % of the black male vote vs a vermont democrat with no roots in the black community. particularly one whose supporters actually despise the first black president
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