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Is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher?

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on th...
Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship
  03/24/13
"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and...
Bossy School Cafeteria
  03/24/13
This is good. Where did you steal it from?
Stirring spot circlehead
  03/25/13
I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven...
180 narrow-minded theater stage national security agency
  03/25/13
I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone...
Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship
  03/26/13
180
chartreuse death wish
  04/04/14
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aqua digit ratio
  11/15/16
Who did she break up with this time?
aquamarine affirmative action
  03/24/13
all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke
Shivering Bawdyhouse
  03/24/13
lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't th...
Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship
  03/24/13
What's the problem then?
flushed submissive brunch mother
  07/04/13
This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast ...
sapphire well-lubricated trailer park
  04/04/14
Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA
Disturbing market rigor
  04/04/14
yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unit...
sexy garrison patrolman
  03/24/13
That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly ha...
Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship
  03/24/13
...
Silver Excitant Ratface
  03/24/13
lol what
Supple alcoholic turdskin partner
  03/25/13
poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth
Rambunctious cocky house deer antler
  03/25/13
Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus wit...
Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship
  03/26/13
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irradiated pale giraffe reading party
  07/04/13
I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most ...
plum concupiscible ladyboy volcanic crater
  03/25/13
She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the ba...
Copper motley skinny woman piazza
  03/26/13
hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist
lavender bonkers center
  04/30/13
...
lavender bonkers center
  03/25/13
I see now that you are Estrada.
bat-shit-crazy trip hall mad-dog skullcap
  03/25/13
bad read imo.
Multi-colored Organic Girlfriend
  04/04/14
180
Milky den
  03/26/13
one hundred and eighty
twinkling razzle jew
  03/26/13
bump
Bossy School Cafeteria
  04/13/13
op needs to do kendrick lamar's album
Appetizing People Who Are Hurt
  04/13/13
...
chartreuse death wish
  04/04/14
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_...
Bossy School Cafeteria
  05/05/13
easily
Jet-lagged bright therapy dilemma
  05/05/13
bump
Bossy School Cafeteria
  06/29/13
much deserved 180
scarlet comical rehab
  06/29/13
...
Bossy School Cafeteria
  07/03/13
have a good life, millenials
Lascivious theater
  07/03/13
killself
canary stage
  07/03/13
go away peter
naked alpha party of the first part
  07/03/13
go away peter
naked alpha party of the first part
  07/03/13
lol jewel pwns her in every way
mauve new version community account
  07/04/13
BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?
irradiated pale giraffe reading party
  07/04/13
that's a tough q probably jewel
mauve new version community account
  07/04/13
180
Onyx Corner
  12/26/13
180
Arousing carmine area
  03/28/14
lana del rey hth
useless dog poop
  03/28/14
Joanna Newsom or gtfo
Vermilion State Gay Wizard
  04/04/14
...
Arousing carmine area
  04/04/14
nice poast, man
drunken locale shitlib
  04/04/14
180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon"...
Vermilion State Gay Wizard
  04/04/14
...
topaz preventive strike
  04/04/14
op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship
Multi-colored Organic Girlfriend
  04/04/14
...
Laughsome yellow location roast beef
  04/04/14
...
Territorial Zippy Hell Fanboi
  09/12/15
...
Aromatic Cuckold Place Of Business
  10/01/15
Fuck me I love threads like these.
Hateful nowag
  10/01/15
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Opaque Principal's Office Dragon
  01/10/16
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Curious bbw
  05/27/16
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razzmatazz slap-happy sanctuary
  05/27/16
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Bossy School Cafeteria
  11/14/16
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Soul-stirring Vengeful Mexican
  11/14/16
Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel...
histrionic slate wrinkle blood rage
  11/15/16
S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyr...
erotic property
  11/15/16
...
erotic property
  08/10/17
I could read these all day everyday
flickering spectacular sound barrier friendly grandma
  11/15/16
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Fragrant Pungent Home
  08/10/17
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vivacious senate chad
  08/25/17
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violet diverse forum
  08/25/17
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vivacious senate chad
  11/03/19
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Territorial Zippy Hell Fanboi
  04/18/20
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vivacious senate chad
  01/01/21
Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks
soggy floppy whorehouse
  01/01/21


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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:31 PM
Author: Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship

Consider her latest album, Red. In it, she discourses on the five traditional branches of philosophy: metaphysics ("Everything Has Changed"), epistemology ("I Knew You Were Trouble"), logic ("Begin Again"), aesthetics ("Sad Beautiful Tragic"), and ethics ("We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"). But she invigilates these categories ruthlessly in her opus on the futility of human action ("I Almost Do"), her paean to faith against reason ("State of Grace"), and her enigmatic Socratic dialogue on Western decline ("The Last Time", featuring Gary Lightbody of Snow Patrol).

Just as Bob Dylan used his nasal whine to focus our moral attention on the everyday details of life, like race riots and police shootings, Taylor Swift uses her flinty, almost Canadian voice to assure us that her songs are trite morality plays, artifice based in part on a true story. Without either the utopian simplicity of The Eagles or the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon, she needs the mask of biographical incident to disguise the disturbing implications of her radical skepticism. Does she believe the world floats on the back of a turtle? Who knows? We'll have to wait for the Playboy interview.

Taylor Swift's artificiality is not unique in pop music. She plays America's fag hag, just as Justin Beiber plays an eternally molested child, right down to his milksop Christianity, and Nicki Minaj confirms every stereotype about transgendered prostitutes from Queens. These archetypes give us a means of confronting the confusion and despair of post-industrial life. We have strangled the last king with the entrails of the last priest, but we still want authority and we still want absolution. Enter Taylor Swift, herself innocent yet confessional, forgiving every deviance yet relentlessly preserving them for the record in surprisingly catchy tunes. She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel.

So, to answer the question which motivates this poast: is Taylor Swift our greatest living poet-philosopher? No, that's probably Michael Sandel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873831)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:07 PM
Author: Bossy School Cafeteria

"She is both Socrates and Diotima, Dante's Beatrice and Milton's Uriel."

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875404)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:15 PM
Author: Stirring spot circlehead

This is good. Where did you steal it from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878953)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:17 PM
Author: 180 narrow-minded theater stage national security agency

I think he stole it from American Psycho, the book. I haven't read the book in years but an entire chapter was written about Whitney Houston. I would be surprised if OP replaced Whitney Houston and Whitney Houston song's with Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift songs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878961)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 3:05 AM
Author: Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship

I was loosely parodying the Whitney Houston chapter for tone, but it's not exactly the same.

Here's the chapter, btw.

http://www.whitney-fan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4434

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882086)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: chartreuse death wish

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322967)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: aqua digit ratio



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:33 PM
Author: aquamarine affirmative action

Who did she break up with this time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873849)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: Shivering Bawdyhouse

all of her bfs dump her because she's a frigid dyke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873855)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:42 PM
Author: Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship

lol have you seen the dudes she dates? Frigid dyke isn't the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873907)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:33 AM
Author: flushed submissive brunch mother

What's the problem then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543747)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:28 AM
Author: sapphire well-lubricated trailer park

This is pure speculation of course but I'm going with roast beef curtains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321488)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:33 AM
Author: Disturbing market rigor

Talk to your kids about UGLY VAGINA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321512)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 6:55 PM
Author: sexy garrison patrolman

yes brother, she was the first human being to genuinely unite analytic and continental philosophy. greatest SCHOLAR of our age!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22873968)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 9:44 PM
Author: Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship

That contribution can't be underestimated. She certainly has been cucked enough times to qualify as a premier intellectual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22875202)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 10:04 PM
Author: Silver Excitant Ratface



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Supple alcoholic turdskin partner

lol what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878983)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:23 PM
Author: Rambunctious cocky house deer antler

poetry and philo are mutually exclusive, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878988)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: Sienna underhanded idiot cruise ship

Fuck off, Socrates. You couldn't even troll Thrasybulus without breathlessly quoting Aeschylus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882072)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:30 AM
Author: irradiated pale giraffe reading party



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:25 PM
Author: plum concupiscible ladyboy volcanic crater

I realize this is not serious, but she honestly is the most talented song-writer/singer to come along in a long time. Some of the stuff she's done that is not even well known is pretty brilliant, e.g.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJlpnBaJyw

She's still a very flawed person, but her talent is off the charts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22878995)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:28 AM
Author: Copper motley skinny woman piazza

She's not a talented songwriter. All of her songs fit the basic template of "rowdy rebellious teen" "wistful ex lover longing for *home*,"hopeful lover," and "nostalgic youth longing for even more youth." They're tropes in pop music that she and her team are clever enough to exploit. Doesn't make her a talented song writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882297)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 9:59 PM
Author: lavender bonkers center

hey guess what songwriter =/= lyricist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23110207)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: lavender bonkers center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879053)



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Date: March 25th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy trip hall mad-dog skullcap

I see now that you are Estrada.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22879054)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:45 PM
Author: Multi-colored Organic Girlfriend

bad read imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322525)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 5:17 AM
Author: Milky den

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882175)



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Date: March 26th, 2013 8:37 AM
Author: twinkling razzle jew

one hundred and eighty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22882306)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:15 AM
Author: Bossy School Cafeteria

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988737)



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Date: April 13th, 2013 3:38 AM
Author: Appetizing People Who Are Hurt

op needs to do kendrick lamar's album

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#22988776)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 2:41 PM
Author: chartreuse death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322979)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:17 PM
Author: Bossy School Cafeteria

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dpph8/is_taylor_swift_our_greatest_living/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137712)



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Date: May 5th, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: Jet-lagged bright therapy dilemma

easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23137813)



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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:12 PM
Author: Bossy School Cafeteria

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503332)



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Date: June 29th, 2013 5:26 PM
Author: scarlet comical rehab

much deserved 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23503409)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:26 AM
Author: Bossy School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528396)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:30 AM
Author: Lascivious theater

have a good life, millenials

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528464)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 12:31 AM
Author: canary stage

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23528471)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: naked alpha party of the first part

go away peter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541761)



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Date: July 3rd, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: naked alpha party of the first part

go away peter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23541762)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:29 AM
Author: mauve new version community account

lol jewel pwns her in every way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543730)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 1:31 AM
Author: irradiated pale giraffe reading party

BAM! Blowjob from Taylor or Jewel. Who do you choose?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543737)



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Date: July 4th, 2013 2:34 AM
Author: mauve new version community account

that's a tough q

probably jewel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#23543981)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 6:35 PM
Author: Onyx Corner

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#24716751)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:33 AM
Author: Arousing carmine area

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277665)



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Date: March 28th, 2014 11:38 AM
Author: useless dog poop

lana del rey hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25277687)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:24 AM
Author: Vermilion State Gay Wizard

Joanna Newsom or gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321472)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:21 AM
Author: Arousing carmine area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321456)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:27 AM
Author: drunken locale shitlib

nice poast, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321486)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 10:30 AM
Author: Vermilion State Gay Wizard

180 and "the deceptive audacity of REO Speedwagon" would be a great moniker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25321498)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: topaz preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322449)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 1:44 PM
Author: Multi-colored Organic Girlfriend

op is bob woodward pu right? pure scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#25322523)



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Date: April 4th, 2014 3:09 PM
Author: Laughsome yellow location roast beef



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Date: September 12th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: Territorial Zippy Hell Fanboi



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Date: October 1st, 2015 5:28 AM
Author: Aromatic Cuckold Place Of Business



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Date: October 1st, 2015 6:06 AM
Author: Hateful nowag

Fuck me I love threads like these.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#28874117)



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Date: January 10th, 2016 8:26 PM
Author: Opaque Principal's Office Dragon



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Author: Curious bbw



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Author: razzmatazz slap-happy sanctuary



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: Bossy School Cafeteria



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Date: November 14th, 2016 6:56 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Vengeful Mexican



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:25 AM
Author: histrionic slate wrinkle blood rage

Just imagine Patrick Bateman going through this entire spiel while playing a "I Knew You Were Trouble", just before he brutally murders people. What I'm saying is it's time for an American Psycho remake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913515)



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:32 AM
Author: erotic property

S/T to Red may be the greatest 4-album compendium of emo lyricism of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913586)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: erotic property



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Date: November 15th, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: flickering spectacular sound barrier friendly grandma

I could read these all day everyday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#31913602)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 12:53 PM
Author: Fragrant Pungent Home



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Date: August 25th, 2017 2:38 PM
Author: vivacious senate chad



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Author: violet diverse forum



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Date: November 3rd, 2019 9:30 PM
Author: vivacious senate chad



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Date: April 18th, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: Territorial Zippy Hell Fanboi



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: vivacious senate chad



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Date: January 1st, 2021 5:44 PM
Author: soggy floppy whorehouse

Great insight into a mind of a psychopathic schizo, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2213084&forum_id=2#41658323)