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Date: September 13th, 2015 5:07 PM Author: provocative shrine potus
Let me mention one thing about “sock puppeting”. I don’t do it, because it doesn’t work. I found that out on Wikipedia in 2004. It takes an enormous amount of energy and even if the sock puppets aren’t detected or proven, it looks ridiculous. One person stating an idiosyncratic opinion has an effect. People rarely change their opinions immediately after a heated debate– and if it gets nasty, they’ll pull farther apart and become more extreme– but can, in some circumstances, drift over time as they learn things that support the alternative hypothesis. That’s happened to me. A year after an argument, something will happen that convinces me that my “opponent” was more right than I’d originally been willing to accept. Two people stating an idiosyncratic opinion has less effect. A second identity that always supports the first, whether that second identity is controlled by the same person (“sock puppet”), an explicit collaborator (“meat puppet”), or just a random sycophant, actually makes them both look worse. It doesn’t establish consensus. And if you try to maintain five or more distinct identities to create false consensus, that’s only going to be transparent and a waste of time– and it will take a lot of time, too. I don’t “sock puppet” because I played that game 10 years ago and it proved to be completely pointless. It doesn’t fucking work, so can we get on with our lives?
Two years ago, I used an alternate account to browse health-related topics because I didn’t trust Quora’s privacy story. (That account still works, putting the lie to Quora’s claim that it “caught” me. “Sock puppeting” is a convenient proximate cause for any user ban because (a) it’s ill-defined, (b) using multiple accounts is usually quite harmless, (c) almost everyone does it, and (d) it carries an implicit threat which is to breach that person’s privacy.) That fact doesn’t fucking matter. Quora has tons of users with multiple accounts and doesn’t give the square root of a fuck.
https://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2015/09/10/quora-emergency-raise-pool-updates-and-other-quoragate-silliness/
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28747823) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: Fantasy-prone erotic property gay wizard
Venture capitalist here, and a huge fan of Michael O. Church's writing. I know people who know Michael and his story and I have no doubt that he's on the right side of everything.
Unfortunately, Michael has made some very tasteless enemies. When he says that the CEO of a "VC darling" spent months trying to ruin his reputation, he's not exaggerating. (We didn't invest in that company, and our reservations about management ethics seem to have been right-on.) He seems to be getting out of the quicksand, and I'm sure we'll see Michael be very successful in the next few years.
this is hilarious
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28749807) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: Aqua orchestra pit
I believe that a third of those responses are legit. That one, I'm not sure about. No VC would say "Venture capitalist here".
Many come from randoms. I don't think that he sock puppets for himself, but Quora is full of trolls and sock puppets and he does have a fan following.
He doesn't sock puppet because he knows that other people will do his dirty work without him even asking.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28749834) |
Date: September 13th, 2015 4:29 PM Author: crawly national security agency
We've banned this account. Calling Marissa Mayer a cunt is an egregious violation of the civility that HN requires. (Using an archaic spelling doesn't change that, it just makes it weird.) No one gets to do this here.
LOL this really nails the essence of pensive
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28747665) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: Aqua orchestra pit
Paul Buchheit knows exactly who he is and is a friend of Marc Bodnick. It's not implausible that he called in a favor.
I find it believable only because I live in Silicon Valley and these people do stupid shit and stab each other in the back, all the time.
If you read that Tweet, his argument was that whoever replaced Paul Graham on HN banned him and misrepresented the conversation. Of course, 7 figures is ridiculously optimistic for a small libel suit. He could possibly get a "go away" settlement but it wouldn't be worth it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28749879) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 5:36 PM Author: provocative shrine potus
LJL:
The word “queynte” may be related to “cunt” and it may not be. “Queynte”, meaning “a charming, simple thing”, was used as a euphemism for the vagina by Chaucer, and some take that to indicate that “cunt” derived from that word. Others think it more likely that it derived from the Latin “cunnus”. Who knows? Who cares? I know how to fucking spell, and if I wanted to use the word “cunt”, I would have used it. However, I’m mindful of the fact that, even though I don’t consider myself a sexist person, there are some very bad people out there who have said horrible things about (and done some horrible things to) women and, in that light, it’s best to stay the fuck away from the word “cunt” when the person you need to insult is female. Call her a prick or an asshole or a scallywag instead, but don’t use any variety of “cunt” unless your target is a man. Got it. Yes, I am smart enough to follow that simple rule. “Queynte” is not “cunt”. There are literally two instances of Chaucer using it as a euphemism for the female anatomy, and he uses the same word in nonsexual contexts many more times. “Queynte” is more closely related to “quaint” than to any other modern word.
https://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/the-brownshirts-are-out/
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28747936) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 10:26 PM Author: Aqua orchestra pit
I don't believe that he has all those sock puppets. He has 7,000 Quora followers, if not more.
He also helps a lot of people out of career problems by checking references and intimidating the shit out of people if he catches them giving bad ones. Blacklisting is pretty common in Silicon Valley and he helps people fight it. The guy is intensely moralistic and that appeals to people.
I think Quora banned him because Paul Buchheit wanted him gone. They may have also seen his legitimately bizarre Wikipedia activity and seen him as a risk.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28749857) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 5:13 PM Author: vivacious house jew
No job never stay workin, mad purty
Shorty they call her the brain surgeon
Time flyin she the same person, never matures
All her friends married doin well
She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12
Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights
Selfish in her own right for life, guess she's in her second childhood
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28747844) |
Date: September 13th, 2015 5:55 PM Author: Chocolate Comical School Regret
"I don't have my "whole life" to develop basic romantic partnership skills; if I haven't done so by 25, I'm fucked."
at least he got that right, anticipating steez's scholarship
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28748031) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 10:17 PM Author: Aqua orchestra pit
I've known him since 2006. He used to be way crazier, and he's actually more successful than most people think, aside from an epic fail of a Google experience.
He has PTSD and bipolar disorder that he didn't get treated until he was 25 or so. (I think he's 31 now.) Now he's normal, except for being extremely angry that people less intelligent than him surpassed him in the years when he was effectively disabled.
Occasionally he will act crazy to intimidate people, like when he drew one of the worst managers at Google, realized he was going to get Perfed, and acted insane on a mailing list so they'd give him a severance if he got fired, which he didn't. That backfired in a huge way, because people still talk about it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28749819) |
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Date: September 14th, 2015 10:05 AM Author: Hairless Center Gaming Laptop
at this point i dont think theres anything funny about your mental illness, mike
hope you get the help you need
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28751458) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 10:43 PM Author: Mahogany hyperventilating voyeur
yes it is, you insane pumo FUCK
anyone who outs a poster's IRL name is fucking insane and should be permabanned for outing
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28749943) |
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Date: September 13th, 2015 10:44 PM Author: vivacious house jew
WTF are you talking about?
Pensive is not an active poaster.
People link to his blog articles all the time on here.
He writes about poasting on xoxo under his real name on fucking Quora.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2988472&forum_id=2#28749957) |
Date: September 13th, 2015 10:13 PM Author: Fantasy-prone erotic property gay wizard
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Date: September 13th, 2015 10:34 PM Author: Milky sexy principal's office hairy legs
"Why did Michael O. Church leave Jane Street?"
Good question. Seems like he should have been a perfect fit.
http://i.imgur.com/CiyActW.jpg
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