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Libs: "credit scores are racist"

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/13/your-cr...
Big gaping yarmulke
  10/13/15
here's a story about chingchongs justifying financial fraud ...
High-end lake base
  10/13/15
"Chi, who was twenty-four and worked in customer servic...
Puce round eye
  10/13/15
they're a huge part of the reason for the insane housing bub...
High-end lake base
  10/13/15
“To be honest, we didn’t think we were really breaking rules...
High-end lake base
  10/13/15
“To be honest, we didn’t think we were really breaking rules...
Bespoke piazza
  10/13/15
Jews explain
slimy roast beef sanctuary
  10/13/15
lol and whose idea was it to give these "predatory"...
marvelous electric furnace useless brakes
  10/13/15
Having a coherent understanding of history is racist.
odious feces cuckoldry
  10/13/15
i wish our political discourse were serious enough to have a...
sienna offensive foreskin box office
  10/13/15
THIS. FUCKING THIS. ...but if the race-angle is the only ...
laughsome macaca
  10/13/15
Removing objective scoring would hurt minorities who manage ...
indecent low-t hospital liquid oxygen
  10/13/15
"with more than half of all African-Americans and Latin...
Coiffed soul-stirring cumskin prole
  10/13/15
How do they know its medical debt?
hyperactive fighting pistol
  10/13/15
cr. i don't think obama has legalized medical crack cocaine...
Bespoke piazza
  10/13/15
I don't think FICO does, they just know debt to available cr...
Coiffed soul-stirring cumskin prole
  10/13/15
wtf would you put medical debt on a cc
Passionate locale depressive
  10/13/15
"For decades, banks have systematically redlined black ...
marvelous electric furnace useless brakes
  10/13/15
Credit reports and scores are not race neutral. Rather, they...
Flushed greedy knife background story
  10/13/15
Well, sir, I am extremely high white these days you could sa...
Honey-headed Bonkers Parlor
  10/13/15
*puts gun in mouth*
odious feces cuckoldry
  10/13/15
Can somebody explain what the fuck makes a mortgage "pr...
fear-inspiring diverse set party of the first part
  10/13/15
selling dumb dumbs a loan whose interest rates balloon?
Razzle-dazzle Rehab Newt
  10/13/15
Those teaser-rate and op-ARM mortgages were pretty predatory...
Puce round eye
  10/13/15
The problem with the race thing on this is it wasn't just mi...
Coiffed soul-stirring cumskin prole
  10/13/15
During the height of the Great Housing Bubble, many shitmort...
Puce round eye
  10/13/15
Libs: "everything is racist"
vigorous internal respiration
  10/13/15
Its almost as if different races are different!
Puce round eye
  10/13/15
...and for some reason, REALITY discriminates against some o...
laughsome macaca
  10/13/15
...
Big gaping yarmulke
  10/13/15
I honestly can see some tard introducing legislation to give...
Coiffed soul-stirring cumskin prole
  10/13/15
180
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  10/13/15
Article: Credit scores don't correlate with job performance....
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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:38 PM
Author: Big gaping yarmulke

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/13/your-credit-score-is-racist-heres-why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958069)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:40 PM
Author: High-end lake base

here's a story about chingchongs justifying financial fraud (which they literally call "the Chinese way") for this very reason:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/12/the-accused-jiayang-fan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958084)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:49 PM
Author: Puce round eye

"Chi, who was twenty-four and worked in customer service at a pharmaceutical company, ... Chen, her husband, who was a year younger... Chen worked at a hair salon. They’d been living in Chen’s studio apartment, not far away, but Chi was now pregnant with their first child and they needed a bigger place.

The plan was to buy a two-family house and rent out one of the units. Looking around the neighborhood, they found one with a small garden out front. The asking price was seven hundred and eighteen thousand dollars, and they began putting together a down payment with money from savings and relatives."

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/12/the-accused-jiayang-fan

JFC fuck these chinks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958147)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:51 PM
Author: High-end lake base

they're a huge part of the reason for the insane housing bubble in Brooklyn these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958163)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:54 PM
Author: High-end lake base

“To be honest, we didn’t think we were really breaking rules so much as circumventing them—you know, in a Chinese way.”

...

“I thought the D.A.’s office might address the bigger, systemic problem of tax evasion in Chinatown and admonish the population about the importance of following the law,”

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He was also scornful of Vance’s idea that Abacus had put its borrowers at risk. “They don’t need protection, because they are the biggest beneficiaries and perpetrators in the entire case. Some of these people earn half a million or more and still get to be on welfare and Medicaid.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958177)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:58 PM
Author: Bespoke piazza

“To be honest, we didn’t think we were really breaking rules so much as circumventing them—you know, in a Chinese way.”

...

“I thought the D.A.’s office might address the bigger, systemic problem of tax evasion in Chinatown and admonish the population about the importance of following the law,”

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He was also scornful of Vance’s idea that Abacus had put its borrowers at risk. “They don’t need protection, because they are the biggest beneficiaries and perpetrators in the entire case. Some of these people earn half a million or more and still get to be on welfare and Medicaid.”

...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958198)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:39 PM
Author: slimy roast beef sanctuary

Jews explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958078)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:47 PM
Author: marvelous electric furnace useless brakes

lol and whose idea was it to give these "predatory" loans/mortgages to high-risk low-income minorities, hmmmmmm libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958128)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 4:59 PM
Author: odious feces cuckoldry

Having a coherent understanding of history is racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28959164)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 2:50 PM
Author: sienna offensive foreskin box office

i wish our political discourse were serious enough to have a more fundamental debate over data aggregation by private companies, and whether it should even be legal on an equifax-scale.

it's not legal in germany, for example. if you started compiling dossiers like that on private german citizens, you'd face five years in jail.

but instead, we're not a mature nation, and everything has to be dumbed down into divisive racial terms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958155)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: laughsome macaca

THIS. FUCKING THIS.

...but if the race-angle is the only way to pwn these fuckers, then I'm in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958391)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 4:09 PM
Author: indecent low-t hospital liquid oxygen

Removing objective scoring would hurt minorities who manage their credit well. With no scoring available, bankers would look to soft factors like appearance, who your father is, where you went to school, job prestige. No way they're lending to Darnell the bus driver even if he pays rent and doesn't owe $2k to rent a center.

Also this would kill competition in the financial sector. Banks with lots of customers would have proprietary information to build internal metrics and it would benefit them to consolidate all a customer's business lines like insurance and retirement accounts to get a better look into their situation. Small banks could never break in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958819)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:04 PM
Author: Coiffed soul-stirring cumskin prole

"with more than half of all African-Americans and Latinos carrying medical debt on their credit cards."

By all means, give them a house! Fuck what the FICO says about default rates. Math is racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958248)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: hyperactive fighting pistol

How do they know its medical debt?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958276)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:14 PM
Author: Bespoke piazza

cr. i don't think obama has legalized medical crack cocaine just yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958329)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: Coiffed soul-stirring cumskin prole

I don't think FICO does, they just know debt to available credit.

I think the article is pointing out how hard it is for minorities to get ahead and we're supposed to feel sorry for them. Unfortunately, for normal people reading this, it's like a no brainer that they need to budget for things like medical, dental and health before you had them a check for 100s of thousands of dollars and risk and more debt that isn't as important as basic needs like healthcare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958336)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:17 PM
Author: Passionate locale depressive

wtf would you put medical debt on a cc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958345)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: marvelous electric furnace useless brakes

"For decades, banks have systematically redlined black and Latino neighborhoods, refusing to make conventional loans or locate branches in non-white and lower-income areas,"

It's almost like banks don't want to build branches in high-crime, low-income neighborhoods....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958274)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: Flushed greedy knife background story

Credit reports and scores are not race neutral. Rather, they embed existing racial inequities in our credit system and economy – to the point that a person’s credit information serves as a proxy for race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958277)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: Honey-headed Bonkers Parlor

Well, sir, I am extremely high white these days you could say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958307)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 5:01 PM
Author: odious feces cuckoldry

*puts gun in mouth*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28959181)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:07 PM
Author: fear-inspiring diverse set party of the first part

Can somebody explain what the fuck makes a mortgage "predatory?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958281)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Rehab Newt

selling dumb dumbs a loan whose interest rates balloon?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958323)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:17 PM
Author: Puce round eye

Those teaser-rate and op-ARM mortgages were pretty predatory, but shitlibs have trouble understanding who the real victims of the predation were (hint: not the dumn poors).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958347)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:23 PM
Author: Coiffed soul-stirring cumskin prole

The problem with the race thing on this is it wasn't just minorities that were doing this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958416)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:26 PM
Author: Puce round eye

During the height of the Great Housing Bubble, many shitmortgages were packaged into mortgage-backed securities, which were rated AAA prime super-safe investments, and then sold to pension funds, etc. This created an unusual incentive to get dumb poors to lie on loan applications so they could sign more mortgages to sell to MBS to sell to pension funds. You could call these "predatory loans"

Now, as I said, who were the victims in all this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958442)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:16 PM
Author: vigorous internal respiration

Libs: "everything is racist"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958339)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:17 PM
Author: Puce round eye

Its almost as if different races are different!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958352)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: laughsome macaca

...and for some reason, REALITY discriminates against some of those races!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958383)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 4:53 PM
Author: Big gaping yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28959110)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: Coiffed soul-stirring cumskin prole

I honestly can see some tard introducing legislation to give an AA credit score boost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958390)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 3:16 PM
Author: sadistic impertinent sweet tailpipe parlour

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958342)



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Date: October 13th, 2015 4:20 PM
Author: plum provocative half-breed corner

Article: Credit scores don't correlate with job performance. Therefore, they should not be used with respect to renting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3015827&forum_id=2#28958891)