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Got served re: debt. Summon: The XO Spirit-Protector of Shitlaw

I had about 70K in 0 to 2% credit card debt and paid off sch...
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
Is this a debt assigned to someone else?
180 citrine library
  11/18/15
Yes, the plaintiff is not the original creditor.
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
Google defending against credit card debt collectors. Goo...
180 citrine library
  11/18/15
ty
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
Ask them for docs that prove you owe this debt then. With an...
exhilarant location
  11/18/15
ty
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
This. I'm not a lawyer nor is this legal advice, but why not...
Self-absorbed emerald laser beams
  11/18/15
see above
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
Do not admit to owing the debt. Make them prove it. Look...
exhilarant location
  11/18/15
Or assign the debt to someone else.
Self-absorbed emerald laser beams
  11/18/15
?
Deranged Mental Disorder
  11/18/15
above is just an attempt at humor, but there are many benefi...
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
...
beta floppy gaping
  11/18/15
What if you just bought the debt posing as a junk debt buye...
Deranged Mental Disorder
  11/18/15
this used to be the way to clear your credit history. the ow...
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
So why isn't it now?
Deranged Mental Disorder
  11/18/15
it well may be, but back then, simpler times
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
Should I call them now of should I do this in court?
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
I don't really know. This is not legal advice, but if I were...
exhilarant location
  11/18/15
Probably true about default judgements. In small claims, is...
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
I don't know, you need to check your local rules.
exhilarant location
  11/18/15
I did and I don't have to do it in writing. I think it is p...
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
just send them a bomb threat
gold titillating school stock car
  11/18/15
And debt worries will go away? Brilliant!
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
one weird trick.
gold titillating school stock car
  11/18/15
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Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
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racy abusive love of her life
  11/18/15
also have to affix a notice on the front page reading "...
Swollen Flickering Theatre
  11/18/15
...
razzmatazz factory reset button cumskin
  11/18/15
Is it even worth it for a creditor to settle a $3k bill for ...
motley electric furnace
  11/18/15
They probably bought it for $100.
cerebral bisexual resort therapy
  11/18/15
So create fake debt buying company and offer to buy debt for...
Deranged Mental Disorder
  11/18/15
...
motley electric furnace
  11/18/15
how is my offer money worse than fake company money?
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
Holy shit this could actually work
exhilarant location
  11/29/15
SUMMON: Rach "Boy, have we got an idea for you: XO S...
Diverse Filthy Kitty
  11/29/15
20%>0%>one year of litigation where I represent self f...
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/18/15
If you successfully buy back the debt at 10% or 20%, will yo...
learning disabled cerise office
  11/29/15
Who is "you"?
Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/29/15
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Bateful mint locale immigrant
  11/30/15


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Date: November 18th, 2015 11:57 AM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

I had about 70K in 0 to 2% credit card debt and paid off school debt when I got shitcanned :) Naturally, I stopped paying the min payments on credit cards. Now I have a 55K 9-5 job in Midwest.

The plan was to sit this through and if things turn for better, pay off all or part, if things turn for worse, file Ch 7. Unfortunately 55K is not automatic Ch 7 territory, so I was procrastinating.

Well, one of the creditors filed in small claims for $3,000 . Does anyone know what would be the best strategy to settle this for 20% or so as "paid if full"? Should I go to court first or should I contact them and try to settle first?

P.S. Since "too big to fail" bailouts I have 0 moral qualms about not paying the banks back. Fuck them.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206543)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:08 PM
Author: 180 citrine library

Is this a debt assigned to someone else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206574)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

Yes, the plaintiff is not the original creditor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206581)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:20 PM
Author: 180 citrine library

Google defending against credit card debt collectors.

Google FDCPA issues.

Debt collectors are often unwilling or unable to prove assignment of your claim.

Assuming its a court with rules of evidence, refresh yourself on hearsay, business records, Rule 106, and shit like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206637)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:31 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206673)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:21 PM
Author: exhilarant location

Ask them for docs that prove you owe this debt then. With any luck they will be missing something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206644)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:12 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209572)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: Self-absorbed emerald laser beams

This. I'm not a lawyer nor is this legal advice, but why not just assign the debt to someone else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206582)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:12 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

see above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206589)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:09 PM
Author: exhilarant location

Do not admit to owing the debt. Make them prove it.

Look for any inaccuracies in the complaint and exhibits.

You can always try to negotiate it down to a smaller number by telling them you don't owe it and can't pay it even if you did given your school loans and unemployment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206578)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: Self-absorbed emerald laser beams

Or assign the debt to someone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206583)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:23 PM
Author: Deranged Mental Disorder

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206900)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:39 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

above is just an attempt at humor, but there are many benefits to your friend buying debt!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206973)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:16 PM
Author: beta floppy gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209607)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:32 PM
Author: Deranged Mental Disorder

What if you just bought the debt posing as a junk debt buyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209779)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:44 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

this used to be the way to clear your credit history. the owner of debt can update it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209871)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:46 PM
Author: Deranged Mental Disorder

So why isn't it now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209882)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:48 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

it well may be, but back then, simpler times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209899)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:11 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

Should I call them now of should I do this in court?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206585)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:20 PM
Author: exhilarant location

I don't really know. This is not legal advice, but if I were in your position, I'd file an answer with defenses so that the attorney knows they will have to go to the trouble of litigating this. Nine times out of ten they probably just get default judgments because the debtors don't file answers and don't make court appearances. They are probably hoping you will do the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206634)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:25 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

Probably true about default judgements. In small claims, is there a written answer, or people just appear and state that the plaintiff lacks proofs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206662)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:13 PM
Author: exhilarant location

I don't know, you need to check your local rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206862)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:15 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

I did and I don't have to do it in writing. I think it is probably still better to do so.

Ty for your suggestions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206871)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:16 PM
Author: gold titillating school stock car

just send them a bomb threat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206874)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:20 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

And debt worries will go away? Brilliant!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206889)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:44 PM
Author: gold titillating school stock car

one weird trick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29207001)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 3:58 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29207696)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:29 PM
Author: racy abusive love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209747)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:40 PM
Author: Swollen Flickering Theatre

also have to affix a notice on the front page reading "NOT FOR ADMIRALTY VENUE" or otherwise they will try to apply law of the sea on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209829)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:43 PM
Author: razzmatazz factory reset button cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209863)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:50 PM
Author: motley electric furnace

Is it even worth it for a creditor to settle a $3k bill for 20%? They gotta believe you won't go BK over $3k so they probably think they can get 100% of it from garnishments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209916)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:54 PM
Author: cerebral bisexual resort therapy

They probably bought it for $100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209951)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:56 PM
Author: Deranged Mental Disorder

So create fake debt buying company and offer to buy debt for 150

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209965)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:56 PM
Author: motley electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209970)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:59 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

how is my offer money worse than fake company money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209994)



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Date: November 29th, 2015 7:53 PM
Author: exhilarant location

Holy shit this could actually work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29273540)



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Date: November 29th, 2015 8:00 PM
Author: Diverse Filthy Kitty

SUMMON: Rach

"Boy, have we got an idea for you: XO SMALLDEBT!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29273587)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:58 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

20%>0%>one year of litigation where I represent self for sport.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209987)



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Date: November 29th, 2015 8:04 PM
Author: learning disabled cerise office

If you successfully buy back the debt at 10% or 20%, will you have to pay cancellation of indebtedness income taxes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29273624)



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Date: November 29th, 2015 10:46 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant

Who is "you"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29274924)



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Date: November 30th, 2015 4:13 PM
Author: Bateful mint locale immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29278493)