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I had about 70K in 0 to 2% credit card debt and paid off sch...
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
Is this a debt assigned to someone else?
Puce slippery market dragon
  11/18/15
Yes, the plaintiff is not the original creditor.
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
Google defending against credit card debt collectors. Goo...
Puce slippery market dragon
  11/18/15
ty
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
Ask them for docs that prove you owe this debt then. With an...
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  11/18/15
ty
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
This. I'm not a lawyer nor is this legal advice, but why not...
beady-eyed brethren wrinkle
  11/18/15
see above
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
Do not admit to owing the debt. Make them prove it. Look...
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  11/18/15
Or assign the debt to someone else.
beady-eyed brethren wrinkle
  11/18/15
?
concupiscible love of her life
  11/18/15
above is just an attempt at humor, but there are many benefi...
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  11/18/15
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pea-brained center elastic band
  11/18/15
What if you just bought the debt posing as a junk debt buye...
concupiscible love of her life
  11/18/15
this used to be the way to clear your credit history. the ow...
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
So why isn't it now?
concupiscible love of her life
  11/18/15
it well may be, but back then, simpler times
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
Should I call them now of should I do this in court?
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
I don't really know. This is not legal advice, but if I were...
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  11/18/15
Probably true about default judgements. In small claims, is...
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  11/18/15
I don't know, you need to check your local rules.
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  11/18/15
I did and I don't have to do it in writing. I think it is p...
charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction
  11/18/15
just send them a bomb threat
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  11/18/15
And debt worries will go away? Brilliant!
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  11/18/15
one weird trick.
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  11/18/15
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  11/18/15
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  11/18/15
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  11/18/15
They probably bought it for $100.
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  11/18/15
So create fake debt buying company and offer to buy debt for...
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  11/18/15
...
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  11/18/15
how is my offer money worse than fake company money?
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  11/18/15
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  11/29/15
SUMMON: Rach "Boy, have we got an idea for you: XO S...
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  11/29/15
20%>0%>one year of litigation where I represent self f...
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  11/18/15
If you successfully buy back the debt at 10% or 20%, will yo...
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  11/29/15
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Date: November 18th, 2015 11:57 AM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

I had about 70K in 0 to 2% credit card debt and paid off school debt when I got shitcanned :) Naturally, I stopped paying the min payments on credit cards. Now I have a 55K 9-5 job in Midwest.

The plan was to sit this through and if things turn for better, pay off all or part, if things turn for worse, file Ch 7. Unfortunately 55K is not automatic Ch 7 territory, so I was procrastinating.

Well, one of the creditors filed in small claims for $3,000 . Does anyone know what would be the best strategy to settle this for 20% or so as "paid if full"? Should I go to court first or should I contact them and try to settle first?

P.S. Since "too big to fail" bailouts I have 0 moral qualms about not paying the banks back. Fuck them.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206543)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:08 PM
Author: Puce slippery market dragon

Is this a debt assigned to someone else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206574)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

Yes, the plaintiff is not the original creditor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206581)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:20 PM
Author: Puce slippery market dragon

Google defending against credit card debt collectors.

Google FDCPA issues.

Debt collectors are often unwilling or unable to prove assignment of your claim.

Assuming its a court with rules of evidence, refresh yourself on hearsay, business records, Rule 106, and shit like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206637)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:31 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206673)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:21 PM
Author: passionate burgundy gay wizard sweet tailpipe

Ask them for docs that prove you owe this debt then. With any luck they will be missing something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206644)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:12 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209572)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: beady-eyed brethren wrinkle

This. I'm not a lawyer nor is this legal advice, but why not just assign the debt to someone else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206582)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:12 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

see above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206589)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:09 PM
Author: passionate burgundy gay wizard sweet tailpipe

Do not admit to owing the debt. Make them prove it.

Look for any inaccuracies in the complaint and exhibits.

You can always try to negotiate it down to a smaller number by telling them you don't owe it and can't pay it even if you did given your school loans and unemployment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206578)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:10 PM
Author: beady-eyed brethren wrinkle

Or assign the debt to someone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206583)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:23 PM
Author: concupiscible love of her life

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206900)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:39 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

above is just an attempt at humor, but there are many benefits to your friend buying debt!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206973)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:16 PM
Author: pea-brained center elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209607)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:32 PM
Author: concupiscible love of her life

What if you just bought the debt posing as a junk debt buyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209779)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:44 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

this used to be the way to clear your credit history. the owner of debt can update it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209871)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:46 PM
Author: concupiscible love of her life

So why isn't it now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209882)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:48 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

it well may be, but back then, simpler times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209899)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:11 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

Should I call them now of should I do this in court?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206585)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:20 PM
Author: passionate burgundy gay wizard sweet tailpipe

I don't really know. This is not legal advice, but if I were in your position, I'd file an answer with defenses so that the attorney knows they will have to go to the trouble of litigating this. Nine times out of ten they probably just get default judgments because the debtors don't file answers and don't make court appearances. They are probably hoping you will do the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206634)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 12:25 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

Probably true about default judgements. In small claims, is there a written answer, or people just appear and state that the plaintiff lacks proofs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206662)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:13 PM
Author: passionate burgundy gay wizard sweet tailpipe

I don't know, you need to check your local rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206862)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:15 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

I did and I don't have to do it in writing. I think it is probably still better to do so.

Ty for your suggestions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206871)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:16 PM
Author: maroon theater

just send them a bomb threat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206874)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:20 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

And debt worries will go away? Brilliant!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29206889)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 1:44 PM
Author: maroon theater

one weird trick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29207001)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 3:58 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29207696)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:29 PM
Author: brilliant pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209747)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:40 PM
Author: curious box office

also have to affix a notice on the front page reading "NOT FOR ADMIRALTY VENUE" or otherwise they will try to apply law of the sea on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209829)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:43 PM
Author: Sapphire gas station twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209863)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:50 PM
Author: cracking public bath pisswyrm

Is it even worth it for a creditor to settle a $3k bill for 20%? They gotta believe you won't go BK over $3k so they probably think they can get 100% of it from garnishments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209916)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:54 PM
Author: big-titted bbw volcanic crater

They probably bought it for $100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209951)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:56 PM
Author: concupiscible love of her life

So create fake debt buying company and offer to buy debt for 150

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209965)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:56 PM
Author: cracking public bath pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209970)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:59 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

how is my offer money worse than fake company money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209994)



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Date: November 29th, 2015 7:53 PM
Author: passionate burgundy gay wizard sweet tailpipe

Holy shit this could actually work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29273540)



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Date: November 29th, 2015 8:00 PM
Author: confused step-uncle's house

SUMMON: Rach

"Boy, have we got an idea for you: XO SMALLDEBT!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29273587)



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Date: November 18th, 2015 9:58 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

20%>0%>one year of litigation where I represent self for sport.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29209987)



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Date: November 29th, 2015 8:04 PM
Author: electric area

If you successfully buy back the debt at 10% or 20%, will you have to pay cancellation of indebtedness income taxes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29273624)



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Date: November 29th, 2015 10:46 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction

Who is "you"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29274924)



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Date: November 30th, 2015 4:13 PM
Author: charismatic mad-dog skullcap dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3048163&forum_id=2#29278493)