"Friends also described her as a fun-loving party girl who liked to drink alcohol and was nicknamed 'the cowgirl' due to her love of wearing big cowboy hats."
See, Moderate Muslims CAN assimilate into Western Society!
Date: November 19th, 2015 1:30 PM Author: Cobalt heady people who are hurt
I think it's fair to say most of these jihadis are disaffected youth latching onto violent interpretations of Islam as justification for their atrocities. It's like they're joining a particularly violent gang that makes them feel cool under the guise of religion. Adam Lanza and the like probably would've done the same if they had Muslim roots. The core issue is the dis affectation.
Date: November 19th, 2015 1:32 PM Author: Self-centered aromatic stock car
I don't think it's possible to have a non-violent interpretation of Islam, without making Islam as religion unrecognizable or just being largely ignorant about the life and teachings of Muhammad. That's part of the problem.
Date: November 19th, 2015 1:44 PM Author: Self-centered aromatic stock car
and i know jews who eat pork and don't believe in god. the point is that they're not really jews(muslims) in the sense of adhering to the jewish(muslim) religion, they're just culturally jewish(muslim).
i mean, if the life and example of muhammad as told in the quran isn't a part of one's interpretation of islam, then what is?
Date: November 19th, 2015 1:50 PM Author: Sinister Friendly Grandma
Exactly. I know this one French Muslim woman, she is moderate, never reads the Koran, drinks alcohol, poses for nudes, and is a fun-loving party girl. She's against violence too. Haven't heard from her in a while, wonder how she's doing? Probably protesting extremism.
Date: November 19th, 2015 1:45 PM Author: swollen masturbator mexican
this has been my sense too but this bort does not accept this explanation.
fwiw I taught some black hs kids in anacostia who had been recrutied to islam and it was largely an issue of dissafection with white america. the sell was as easy as "fuck jesus, that cracker was white, lemme tell you bout my niggas muhhamad ali and malcolm X"
Date: November 19th, 2015 1:47 PM Author: Self-centered aromatic stock car
well, it just doesn't seem like a very important insight to us. were most people recruited by nazis into the SA and SS disaffected youth, mostly men, who had a violent interpretation of facsism? probably. ok, so? does it mean fascism isn't something we should have opposed and condemned? does it mean we should've imported tens or hundreds of thousands of fascists from germany into our country during WWII because most of them were peaceful?
Date: November 19th, 2015 1:48 PM Author: Bateful depressive
well, but doesn't that just mean the disaffection is coming from shoe-horning groups of people with different cultures, values, and talents together?
like, even if there is nothing inherent in islam that makes people violent (not sure that's right, but for the sake of argument), couldn't we argue that there is more disaffection and perhaps violence in diverse populations, particularly when there are minority groups involved?
Date: November 19th, 2015 1:58 PM Author: Sinister Friendly Grandma
Yeah, that probably explains why terrorists in Indonesia, Nigeria, Libya, Lebanon, Philippines, India, Russia, France, US, UK, Spain, Syria, Iraq, Uganda, Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Kenya, Somalia, Sudan, Rwanda, Mali, Yemen, Central African Republic, Niger, Senegal, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, China, Australia, and many more attacked people saying they were doing so in the name of Islam. No common thread here at all.
Date: November 19th, 2015 2:00 PM Author: Self-centered aromatic stock car
and these disaffected youth also control the governments of the dozen or so muslim countries where you can get the death penalty for leaving islam or for homosexuality. (note that there are no non-muslim countries with such laws). the governments of those countries are just full of disaffected youths.
Agreed. Someone a few months back (maybe David Frum or a NYT columnist) mentioned how 30+ years ago disaffected youth around the world joined or allied themselves with communists, leftist terror groups (red army faction etc), and/or the eastern bloc. This was the way in which "out-groups" and disaffected people could protest against the dominant Western paradigm. With the West's triumph over Communism, Islam remains as the only major philosophy/culture that still resists Western philosophy and the market economy.
Still, we cannot dismiss the religion itself as a cause for extremism. The hardcore disaffected leftists of yesteryear (and today) weren't suicide bombers and were mostly peaceful.
Date: November 19th, 2015 4:15 PM Author: Cerebral Mentally Impaired Set Faggot Firefighter
that's what women bombers are trained to do to attract cops/authorities toward them before trying to kill them. the kurds have been dealing with a lot of that in kurdish syria.
Date: November 19th, 2015 2:57 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Elite Trailer Park
Are we now defining "cowboy hat" as a hijab? Cause for such a fun loving extrovert alcohol drinking atheist she sure seems to like to wear traditional muslim clothing