Date: February 22nd, 2016 8:30 PM Author: dark spectacular locus volcanic crater
i understand rooting for an orthodox candidate and if things don't turn out well, you can hold up your hands and say "oh well, don't blame me."
but if you're passionately cheering for an unpredictable disrupter against all conventional wisdom and expert consensus, and he turns out to be a HORRIBLE president, wouldn't you feel extra bad? not only in a moral sense, but wouldn't you feel fucking embarrassed to walk around in society knowing that you went against the grain to help usher in the worst period in american history? wouldn't you have to constantly bow your head in shame if that were to occur?
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:30 PM Author: Galvanic Flesh Set
Let's keep this bort's hypotheticals plausible. Trump sucking or Taylor Swift letting us lick her asshole are at least within the realm of possibility.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 8:38 PM Author: dark spectacular locus volcanic crater
i addressed that in my OP.
i doubt anyone feels acute regret for supporting GWB because it was something of a default choice.
but if you support an outsider against the loud and repeated warnings of the old guard, how could you look your children in the eyes and tell them that daddy shouted and screamed and stamped his feet for a man who bankrupted this country and caused a catastrophic war?
Date: February 22nd, 2016 8:42 PM Author: Marvelous tripping gas station
u mean the same establishment which rubber stamped our disastrous iraq war and libya shit?
if establishment warnings are to be taken seriously then they need to have a positive track record first to establish credibility
so at this point their opinion is useless. also Trump is very isolationist if you actually pay attention and the best choice from the GOP side if you dont want some neocon bullshit. Remember neocon fgts like Lindsey Graham, Rubio, McCain literally want to go war with Russia over Ukraine and u r complaining abt Trump who actually wants to work with Russia?
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:14 PM Author: dark spectacular locus volcanic crater
All signs indicate he may have a personality disorder or two. This made him an effective SALESMAN, but LOL if you're so enamored that you feel safe with his finger on the button.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 8:48 PM Author: Dashing Headpube Community Account
The real postwar American old guard that I have any respect for are all long dead. These people are just boomer shitheads and rootless cosmopolitan traitors.
One guy I do respect, Bob Dole, basically endorsed Trump.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 8:40 PM Author: dark spectacular locus volcanic crater
i doubt you really believe this. it's just a cop-out in case trump does screw everything up. when that happens, you can and no doubt you will reach for this cop-out, but i know you'll be ashamed and devastated nevertheless.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:06 PM Author: Trip pale mother
yeah, i'll be pretty devastated if he doesn't make America great again. I'm not even sure if he can because of the structural problems both nationally and globally. it was a great country once but it is unrecognizable now and shitlibs + cuckservatives + neocons only care about grabbing power while lining their pockets and hastening the decline
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:10 PM Author: dark spectacular locus volcanic crater
This is a poor dichotomy. It's actually about whether to uphold the status quo, with substantial improvements (you could vote democrats, or throw your lot behind bernie) versus taking a HUGE gamble that all conventional signs are saying will NOT pay off, but you insist on forging ahead because you're relying more on your gut. So when the gamble fails catastrophically, as predicted, and your gut was wrong, it should and will cut you to your core.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:38 PM Author: Dun Up-to-no-good Kitty Cat Place Of Business
EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME.
But to the extent that you had any credibility before, you squandered it by implicitly asserting that "throwing your lot behind Bernie" is a variant of "upholding the status quo, with substantial improvements." Hillary Clinton is the status quo. Ted Cruz is the status quo. Rubio isn't exactly the status quo, but he likely wouldn't deviate too far from it. Sanders/Trump are not. Both are agitating for radical departures from it, although the specifics are quite different.
So fine-- suppose that Trump wins, but the efforts to keep aflame the historically anomalous light of civilization are futile and we are either overrun by some sort of foreign menace or simply regress to a dark age driven by the left's insistence that we treat all identity politics as a Hobbesian war of all against all. That would be awful but, some day, should our descendants exceed us in the way that we have exceeded a fallen Rome, our story will be that we tried rather than fiddled. If we are destined to fall, then I can think than I can think of no better burial shroud than the endeavor to reclaim greatness.
This is a poor dichotomy. It's actually about whether to uphold the status quo, with substantial improvements (you could vote democrats, or throw your lot behind bernie) versus taking a HUGE gamble that all conventional signs are saying will NOT pay off, but you insist on forging ahead because you're relying more on your gut. So when the gamble fails catastrophically, as predicted, and your gut was wrong, it should and will cut you to your core.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:43 PM Author: dark spectacular locus volcanic crater
1. You misunderstand. Bernie is a part of the status quo of having sane, hinged adults with political experience in the presidency. Trump is not part of that status quo.
2. "BUT WE TRIED!!!"... is a terrible excuse for posterity to uncover when your efforts were to install an unhinged condo salesman to run the most powerful country on earth because he talks like a motivational speaker mixed with a WWE announcer.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:18 PM Author: supple aqua house milk
I have no real qualms about that because whatever happens, ultimate responsibility lies with the people who brought america to this point -- who of course are predominantly hillary and rubio supporters rather than trump supporters.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:23 PM Author: dark spectacular locus volcanic crater
Oh yeah? What's so bad about it that we should dangerously gamble our national welfare into the hands of an unhinged condo salesman? And please try not to resort to 1) "THEY TOOK OUR JERBS!!" or 2) "LIBSSSS!!"
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:36 PM Author: supple aqua house milk
let me be clear: I'm still undecided as to whether or not I'm actually going to vote for trump over hillary, but if he does win and he is a disaster, the story of his election will be one of globalist elite hubris, not one of low-IQ proles lashing out.
Date: February 22nd, 2016 9:54 PM Author: Amethyst senate
These are the same dumbshits who consistently voted against their own interests in favor of BIGCORPS & BOOTSTRAPS the last two decades. They are the same dumbshits who voted for an obviously flame war in Iraq. I doubt they'll have any ability to self reflect if Trump proves to be a disaster
Date: February 23rd, 2016 1:33 AM Author: Mewling bipolar selfie
I'm going to look at my kids in the eye and say:
"When I was your age, the world was run by a small cabal of evil, rootless cosmopolitan globalists. These people sold out the heart, soul, riches, resources, and national character of their countries to the lowest bidder. They encouraged men to fight women and vice versa, and destroyed the nuclear family so they could create a labor surplus. The encouraged uneducated, low-iq, violent people to move to prosperous, peaceful countries so they could save a little bit of money on labor costs. They believed in nothing, and they owned all the channels of public communication, and filled it with nonstop propaganda. They publically shamed, and threatened the lives and livelihoods of anyone who opposed their plans.
A man came along, and promised to put an end to this. I knew that our society couldn't survive anymore, and this was our only opportunity to right the ship. Unfortunately, he failed, and now China is the major power on earth. But son... If I had not voted for him, our country would look like Sweden by now."
And he would ask: "but dad, what is Sweden? I have never heard of such a country."
Date: February 23rd, 2016 3:02 PM Author: rose bawdyhouse bbw
Dr. Peter Venkman: If I'm wrong, nothing happens! We go to jail - peacefully, quietly. We'll enjoy it! But if I'm *right*, and we *can* stop this thing... Lenny, you will have saved the lives of millions of registered voters.