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Libs: perfectly healthy for women to hate their oppressive children / motherhood

Motherhood feels like a prison sentence. I can't wait until ...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
By Jessica Valenti SUNY Albany BA, Rutgers MA.
Alcoholic Fighting Legal Warrant School
  02/28/16
I hope this bitch get cancer in both tits and that it spread...
garnet coldplay fan
  02/28/16
(healthy bro)
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
jfc. never mind putting Mexicans/Muslims in their place. wom...
white hairraiser meetinghouse
  02/28/16
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Boyish Chapel
  02/28/16
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plum know-it-all area immigrant
  02/28/16
Your father raised your sisters solo?
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
...
plum know-it-all area immigrant
  02/28/16
Glad there was a happy ending . Ur a strong kid
Cruel-hearted Arrogant Famous Landscape Painting
  02/28/16
Your dad is a good man
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
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Naked sanctuary
  02/28/16
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low-t transparent senate
  02/28/16
He is, but how many of us would have it in us to do the same...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
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plum know-it-all area immigrant
  02/28/16
what does your mom do now? did she ever talk to you about wh...
dark lettuce
  02/28/16
Why? Who doesn't ask that question?
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
Humans, you worthless kike
Brindle toaster
  02/28/16
Yet most people don't actually do this when put in that posi...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
Has she known the embrace of an Asian man
disrespectful party of the first part theater
  02/28/16
...
plum know-it-all area immigrant
  02/28/16
Cq
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
cr Never understood women who divorce after, say, age 40....
Seedy appetizing national
  02/28/16
I know many beautiful women over 40 that can have kids
Maroon odious puppy
  02/28/16
(Juliabbooooooooom)
Seedy appetizing national
  02/28/16
Most of them do find men. Who do you think average joe 50...
big gas station dysfunction
  02/28/16
Yes (xo po
Seedy appetizing national
  02/28/16
...
wonderful ticket booth water buffalo
  02/28/16
This is beautiful brother
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
It's almost like they think killing babies is okay.
Irradiated macaca hospital
  02/28/16
The article literally pushes for greater education about abo...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
Lol
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
Why do a bunch of XOers push for social incentives that woul...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
Why do you think abortion is so wonderful instead of perhaps...
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
Great except teaching people to try and ignore their most ur...
floppy glassy center fanboi
  02/28/16
This.
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
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big gas station dysfunction
  02/28/16
where did i say to "teach abstinence" retard?
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
So you propose teaching them to fuck at a less frequent leve...
floppy glassy center fanboi
  02/28/16
or perhaps utilize contraception you silly tard
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
So you meant teach them not to fuck like rabbits unless they...
floppy glassy center fanboi
  02/28/16
can we not fight? i hate it when we fight. also now i wan...
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
That would be nice, but even that isn't 100%. So you still ...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
Because the "abstinence only" notion is hilariousl...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
youre a broken person. good luck with that.
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
Explain. This seems pretty basic to me. Or were you one of...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
by indulging these people we've created a monster.
elite useless brakes
  02/28/16
(Unborn beautiful baby)
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
...
plum know-it-all area immigrant
  02/28/16
...
Mint impertinent native jewess
  02/28/16
Explain.
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
selfishness is toxic for 95% of people
elite useless brakes
  02/28/16
...
Exhilarant karate
  02/28/16
But everyone is selfish and always has been.
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
no shit dumbass, but should we encourage or discourage this ...
elite useless brakes
  02/28/16
Pretending to be selfless when you're not helps absolutely n...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
I understand you are going to take any "anti-selfishnes...
elite useless brakes
  02/28/16
I think aspiring to being a good person is great. I just th...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
I don't get why these articles are bad. Many people aren't c...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
...
plum know-it-all area immigrant
  02/28/16
Are we running out of people or something? Explain why socie...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
...
plum know-it-all area immigrant
  02/28/16
Well, religious Jews breed like crazy and live like shit, wh...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
I can understand why some people would not want kids, and I ...
cowardly tanning salon
  02/28/16
So?
wonderful ticket booth water buffalo
  02/28/16
That's fair enough, they're different than you and by defini...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
cr Fish post but you think people could figure out that they...
floppy glassy center fanboi
  02/28/16
Trouble is that there is a huge social bias towards the noti...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
>> Gianna wrote, "I love my son, but I hate being...
cowardly tanning salon
  02/28/16
pretty sure men are the bigger dreamers
Ocher base
  02/28/16
Importing large numbers of socially-conservative Mexicans ma...
lilac histrionic candlestick maker principal's office
  02/28/16
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Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
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Exhilarant karate
  02/28/16
Jessica Valenti: SUNY Albany BA, Rutgers MA,
Alcoholic Fighting Legal Warrant School
  02/28/16
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Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
there is certainly a subset of women who are not suited to b...
cerebral blood rage
  02/28/16
While this is an accurate statement, the article goes well b...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
"It embraces the idea that motherhood is an oppressive ...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
Again, while true for "some" women, the article at...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
There's a lot of social pressure to have children and so I c...
floppy glassy center fanboi
  02/28/16
To be fair, I wouldn't say they are "denigrating mother...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
Did you read the article? While it doesn't spell out that 'o...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
For some people that is the perspective. That is "norm...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
You think it's normal and perfectly legitimate for these wom...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
"You think it's normal and perfectly legitimate for the...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
Well you're limiting the article to sound more reasonable. T...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
Oh I totally agree with your point. But my interpretation o...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
Sounds more like Feminism than liberalism.
obsidian pervert church building
  02/28/16
Libs support anti depressants during pregnancy: http://www....
Heady goal in life antidepressant drug
  02/28/16
Educated white women totally FLIPPED THEIR SHIT when surgeon...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
Except that the most recent studies do actually show that li...
floppy glassy center fanboi
  02/28/16
There are also studies, however, that show even light alcoho...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
Why take the risk when there is no risk?
floppy glassy center fanboi
  02/28/16
(educated white woman rootless cosmopolitan) *swirling delic...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
lol
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
I don't support taking any unnecessary drugs during pregnanc...
floppy glassy center fanboi
  02/28/16
Twist: every baby in an american educated white woman womb a...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
went to mass today and met the mom of a couple of guys I tra...
Supple fortuitous meteor university
  02/28/16
how is mrs. scalia?
Vivacious site
  02/28/16
if i were so lucky.
Supple fortuitous meteor university
  02/28/16
I know a girl like this. She openly says her kids ruined her...
Passionate Ape Set
  02/28/16
This is really what needs to be more public. Some people sh...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
xoxo studs: "Women mentally ill for not wanting kid...
Mentally Impaired Carmine Jap
  02/28/16
Let me fix that for you: xoxo studs: "Women menta...
Razzle-dazzle Legend
  02/28/16
By the way, I absolutely believe that men should be able to ...
Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt
  02/28/16
I think the point is that once a woman has kids, it's pretty...
Passionate Ape Set
  02/28/16
"On November 21, 2008, the last day that the safe haven...
Bronze Vibrant Parlor
  02/28/16


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Date: February 28th, 2016 11:50 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Motherhood feels like a prison sentence. I can't wait until I am paroled when my son turns 18 and hopefully goes far away to college."

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/09/not-wanting-kids-is-entirely-normal/262367/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935515)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:17 PM
Author: Alcoholic Fighting Legal Warrant School

By Jessica Valenti

SUNY Albany BA, Rutgers MA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937865)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:55 PM
Author: garnet coldplay fan

I hope this bitch get cancer in both tits and that it spreads to her bones and she dies in agony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938821)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

(healthy bro)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938854)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 11:52 AM
Author: white hairraiser meetinghouse

jfc. never mind putting Mexicans/Muslims in their place. women are the biggest problem society faces today. they are out. of. fucking. control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935528)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:16 PM
Author: Boyish Chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935678)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 11:53 AM
Author: plum know-it-all area immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935538)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 11:56 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Your father raised your sisters solo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935547)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 11:57 AM
Author: plum know-it-all area immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935552)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:01 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Arrogant Famous Landscape Painting

Glad there was a happy ending . Ur a strong kid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935581)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:21 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Your dad is a good man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935708)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:34 PM
Author: Naked sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935809)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:40 PM
Author: low-t transparent senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935848)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:04 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

He is, but how many of us would have it in us to do the same?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936023)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:08 PM
Author: plum know-it-all area immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936048)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:09 PM
Author: dark lettuce

what does your mom do now? did she ever talk to you about why she left?

what's your relationship with your mom like now? how about between her and your sisters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936052)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Why? Who doesn't ask that question?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936069)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 10:19 PM
Author: Brindle toaster

Humans, you worthless kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29940595)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 10:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Yet most people don't actually do this when put in that position. Explain the delta.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29940885)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 11:59 AM
Author: disrespectful party of the first part theater

Has she known the embrace of an Asian man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935564)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:01 PM
Author: plum know-it-all area immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935578)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:18 PM
Author: Vivacious site

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937870)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:03 PM
Author: Seedy appetizing national

cr

Never understood women who divorce after, say, age 40. Do they really think they are going to find love again? At their age?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935595)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:40 PM
Author: Maroon odious puppy

I know many beautiful women over 40 that can have kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935850)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:48 PM
Author: Seedy appetizing national

(Juliabbooooooooom)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935906)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:04 PM
Author: big gas station dysfunction

Most of them do find men.

Who do you think average joe 50 year-old divorces are dating? 25 year-olds?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936021)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:38 PM
Author: Seedy appetizing national

Yes (xo po

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936270)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 4:32 PM
Author: wonderful ticket booth water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937526)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:17 PM
Author: Vivacious site

This is beautiful brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937869)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:06 PM
Author: Irradiated macaca hospital

It's almost like they think killing babies is okay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935605)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:22 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

The article literally pushes for greater education about abortion as a solution to this widespread oppression of women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935714)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:18 PM
Author: Vivacious site

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937875)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:13 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Why do a bunch of XOers push for social incentives that would make us look like the failed parts of the world?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936084)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:18 PM
Author: Vivacious site

Why do you think abortion is so wonderful instead of perhaps teaching people not to fuck like rabbits until they're married

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937877)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:22 PM
Author: floppy glassy center fanboi

Great except teaching people to try and ignore their most urgent instincts for years on end has always been a comprehensive failure.

Teaching "abstinence" just increases the number of unwanted babies born and results in higher rates of abortion.

If you want low abortion rates then teach sex ed and provide kids with easy access to contraception.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937907)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:31 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

This.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938586)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:49 PM
Author: big gas station dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938764)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:50 PM
Author: Vivacious site

where did i say to "teach abstinence" retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938780)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:53 PM
Author: floppy glassy center fanboi

So you propose teaching them to fuck at a less frequent level than rabbits until married?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938801)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:54 PM
Author: Vivacious site

or perhaps utilize contraception you silly tard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938812)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:55 PM
Author: floppy glassy center fanboi

So you meant teach them not to fuck like rabbits unless they are rabbits who wear condoms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938828)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:58 PM
Author: Vivacious site

can we not fight? i hate it when we fight.

also now i want to go see that rabbit video again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938861)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:05 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

That would be nice, but even that isn't 100%. So you still need abortion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938948)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:31 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Because the "abstinence only" notion is hilariously retarded and ignores human nature. That wasn't even convincing to me when I was dating as a 15 year old, let alone approximately 20 years later when I've seen that it is even more naive than I originally suspected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938583)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:51 PM
Author: Vivacious site

youre a broken person. good luck with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938785)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:06 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Explain. This seems pretty basic to me. Or were you one of the people that actually didn't get laid as a teen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938962)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:16 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935673)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:24 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935728)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:24 PM
Author: elite useless brakes

by indulging these people we've created a monster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935729)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:33 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

(Unborn beautiful baby)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935803)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:34 PM
Author: plum know-it-all area immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935815)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:39 PM
Author: Mint impertinent native jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935843)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936016)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:23 PM
Author: elite useless brakes

selfishness is toxic for 95% of people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937918)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:35 PM
Author: Exhilarant karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938623)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:38 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

But everyone is selfish and always has been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938649)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:07 PM
Author: elite useless brakes

no shit dumbass, but should we encourage or discourage this tendency? seems to me in MAYBE 5% of cases is anyone ultimately "better off" with a person giving themselves over to whatever their ego wants so it's grotesque that's what society currently recommends everyone do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938974)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:10 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Pretending to be selfless when you're not helps absolutely no one. It just leads to people acting like assholes and finding justifications for their assholish behavior ("oh, I beat them to DISCIPLINE them and not because I fucking hate being a parent and detest my kids, I'm actually a GOOD person!").

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939002)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:31 PM
Author: elite useless brakes

I understand you are going to take any "anti-selfishness" stance kinda personally but you are warped to the point of delusion if you think it's generally bad for people to aspire to "goodness"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939190)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:34 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

I think aspiring to being a good person is great. I just think there's a huge difference between honestly doing that and just making nonsense claims like "I'm a completely selfless person!" and then doing what you want anyway. I've seen that happen a bunch of times IRL with various family members and that is how you get "Eat, Pray, Love" scenarios.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939218)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 12:54 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29935946)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:01 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

I don't get why these articles are bad. Many people aren't cut out for kids and acting like kids are always a good thing causes significantly more harm than good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936003)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:02 PM
Author: plum know-it-all area immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936009)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:07 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Are we running out of people or something? Explain why society would be better if everyone just lived to spit out a bunch of kids. These "traditional" attitudes are still prevalent in places like South America, the middle east and Africa and it doesn't seem to be working out too well for them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936040)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:09 PM
Author: plum know-it-all area immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936054)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Well, religious Jews breed like crazy and live like shit, while secular Jews don't. Your conclusion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936066)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:53 PM
Author: cowardly tanning salon

I can understand why some people would not want kids, and I don't think those people should have kids, but I also think those people are weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936363)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 4:33 PM
Author: wonderful ticket booth water buffalo

So?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937533)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:35 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

That's fair enough, they're different than you and by definition people different than you come off as strange. Nevertheless, while "strange" they aren't unique, and it is important for those people to understand that their preferences aren't mistakes and that others have felt that way. And if they ignore their preferences they are likely to regret it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938626)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:16 PM
Author: floppy glassy center fanboi

cr Fish post but you think people could figure out that they are not cut out to have kids long before having a bunch of teenagers in the house.

If people really aren't suited to having children then don't have them, its not like there is any shortage of people in the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937862)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:34 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Trouble is that there is a huge social bias towards the notion that you ought to have children. I'm in this position now myself and the pressure is really immense. People use all the arguments like "it is different when it is your kids" and "you'll love it for sure!" For people that know that they probably shouldn't do this, having some articles reminding them that they really do have a choice and that it isn't for everyone is a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938612)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:32 PM
Author: cowardly tanning salon

>> Gianna wrote, "I love my son, but I hate being a mother. It has been a thankless, monotonous, exhausting, irritating and oppressive job. Motherhood feels like a prison sentence. I can't wait until I am paroled when my son turns 18 and hopefully goes far away to college." <<

tl;dr I want the benefits of something without putting in the work that it requires.

This is a common sentiment among women (and some men too). They love their kids, but they don't wanna put in the work to raise them. They want to be attractive, but they don't want to keep their bodies trim or put in the general effort required to look good. They want creative, high-paying jobs, but they think they're entitled to them just because they have a certain degree. Etc, etc.

The reality is, anything in life that is really worth having takes hard work and effort to get it. You can't just separate the benefits from the effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936230)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 4:31 PM
Author: Ocher base

pretty sure men are the bigger dreamers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937514)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 1:39 PM
Author: lilac histrionic candlestick maker principal's office

Importing large numbers of socially-conservative Mexicans may actually be preferable if this is the direction white women are going

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29936272)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 4:23 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937430)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:36 PM
Author: Exhilarant karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938637)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:22 PM
Author: Alcoholic Fighting Legal Warrant School

Jessica Valenti: SUNY Albany BA, Rutgers MA,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29937906)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:28 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938554)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 5:33 PM
Author: cerebral blood rage

there is certainly a subset of women who are not suited to be mothers - it's a gift to their unborn children when they are able to self-identify as such and abstain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938034)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:28 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

While this is an accurate statement, the article goes well beyond the simple fact that some women make shitty mothers.

It embraces the idea that motherhood is an oppressive prison, an institution in which women lose 'themselves' in every sense, and are forced into routine and subservient labor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938553)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:32 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

"It embraces the idea that motherhood is an oppressive prison...and are forced into routine and subservient labor."

For some women it is. That's how you get these "Eat, Pray, Love" types who end up fucking over their families. I'd rather these women avoid marriage and kids rather than fuck over their husbands after the fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938592)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:37 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Again, while true for "some" women, the article attempts to explain this phenomenon as the norm and a healthy viewpoint that should be as accepted as the viewpoint that motherhood is amazing and rewarding.

In fact, it is not a healthy viewpoint and the "some" women make up a small percentage of the population women. These women are sick and likely suffer some kind of mental illness. Is absolutely not normal to dump your 11yo daughter at a firehouse in Nebraska. It just isn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938641)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:36 PM
Author: floppy glassy center fanboi

There's a lot of social pressure to have children and so I can understand women who genuinely don't have any maternal instincts trying to strike back by denigrating motherhood. I don't agree with them of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938634)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:37 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

To be fair, I wouldn't say they are "denigrating motherhood" - they're not really saying that only dumb women like being mothers or anything like that. They're just saying that *to them* it seems horrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938646)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:39 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Did you read the article? While it doesn't spell out that 'only dumb' women enjoy being mothers and unconditionally love their children, that is certainly the undertone throughout the piece.

"Please accept that for wealthy white educated women, motherhood is a prison sentence. It is NORMAL to feel this way, ACCEPT this"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938659)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:51 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

For some people that is the perspective. That is "normal" insofar as it is a perfectly legitimate way to look at things and it isn't something to be "fixed" or "pushed past." They should just accept that and not have kids.

To understand why that is a reasonable response, you basically have to go through dealing with family pressure to have kids, where people act like not wanting kids means you are completely Charles Manson style insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938793)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:55 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

You think it's normal and perfectly legitimate for these women to hate their children, feel imprisoned, and/or dump them in a firehouse in Nebraska @ age 11?

That's like saying 'well for a mass murderer, murder is the norm. That's HIS reality and at least for him that's acceptable behavior. You have to go through his awful childhood to understand HIS perspective'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938820)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:08 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

"You think it's normal and perfectly legitimate for these women to hate their children, feel imprisoned, and/or dump them in a firehouse in Nebraska @ age 11?"

I'm more saying that it is perfectly normal to not want to be a parent and not enjoy the typical activities that comprise parenting. Therefore, these people should not have children, not that they should dump them at a public building in Nebraska or just be total dicks to their children (I've never seen the former, but the latter is a significant percentage of parents).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938983)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:11 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Well you're limiting the article to sound more reasonable. The article goes into detail regarding the women that already became parents, feel awful because they hate their kids, and goes on to say this is okay, they need to be understood.

My point, more than anything, is that once you're already a mother it's sick and not okay hate your life, your children, and wish them gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939012)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:14 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

Oh I totally agree with your point. But my interpretation of the article focusing on these women is to inform women that all not women are destined to be good mothers, so you should seriously ask yourself if you're in that category. The Nebraska case was given as an example.

The fact is that you have a ton of women that claim to want to be mothers purely due to societal pressure and then absolutely suck at it. We don't want to encourage that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939034)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:36 PM
Author: obsidian pervert church building

Sounds more like Feminism than liberalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938635)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:43 PM
Author: Heady goal in life antidepressant drug

Libs support anti depressants during pregnancy:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/12/antidepressants_in_pregnancy_probably_do_not_cause_autism.html

They support DRINKING during pregnancy:

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/19/drinking_while_pregnant_if_teen_mom_star_maci_bookout_had_a_beer_its_none_of_our_business/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938693)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:47 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Educated white women totally FLIPPED THEIR SHIT when surgeon general recommended they abstain from drinking ANY alcohol during pregnancy.

Dat Glass o Wine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938744)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:52 PM
Author: floppy glassy center fanboi

Except that the most recent studies do actually show that light alcohol consumption has no effect on the fetus.

However, because its assumed that there are legions of prole drunkard women out there just waiting for the OK to booze it up while pregnant the authorities err on the side of recommending no drinking at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938799)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:57 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

There are also studies, however, that show even light alcohol consumption could affect the baby.

WHY TAKE THE RISK? Just don't do it, wait for the baby to be born. jfc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938851)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:59 PM
Author: floppy glassy center fanboi

Why take the risk when there is no risk?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938880)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:02 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

(educated white woman rootless cosmopolitan) *swirling delicious glass of red gently*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938922)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:55 PM
Author: Vivacious site

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938824)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:54 PM
Author: floppy glassy center fanboi

I don't support taking any unnecessary drugs during pregnancy. But if someone has serious depression and if left untreated they might be a danger to themselves or babby then if they can be treated with no risk of harm then why not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938811)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:06 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Twist: every baby in an american educated white woman womb already in grave danger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938969)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:49 PM
Author: Supple fortuitous meteor university

went to mass today and met the mom of a couple of guys I train with. in total they are 11 brothers, mom and dad. and she was serene and warm in a way I haven't seen ever.

that is all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938767)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 6:55 PM
Author: Vivacious site

how is mrs. scalia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938819)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:06 PM
Author: Supple fortuitous meteor university

if i were so lucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938963)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:09 PM
Author: Passionate Ape Set

I know a girl like this. She openly says her kids ruined her life. Longs to just be able to go out and shit. She was a big party girl before. She definitely shouldn't have had kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29938996)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:11 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

This is really what needs to be more public. Some people shouldn't have kids. Yes, we talk about the drug addicted prostitute, but we should also talk about the "party girl" that has zero maternal instinct as well as other people who would be shitty parents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939010)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:12 PM
Author: Mentally Impaired Carmine Jap

xoxo studs:

"Women mentally ill for not wanting kids!"

"It's perfectly reasonable for a dude to be a deadbeat dad! He shouldn't have to support some brat he doesn't like!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939020)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:15 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Legend

Let me fix that for you:

xoxo studs:

"Women mentally ill for not wanting their own kids!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939047)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:15 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cerise ratface newt

By the way, I absolutely believe that men should be able to "financially abort" their kids at the time of birth (though, not later - unless it turns out not to be their kids). But I also think it is perfectly reasonable for women not to want to have kids either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939050)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:19 PM
Author: Passionate Ape Set

I think the point is that once a woman has kids, it's pretty shitty to openly talk about not wanting them and wanting them to go off to school and shit. At that point you have your kids. Love them and be a good parent. I agree that there's nothing wrong with not wanting kids in the first place, at least IMO. Some people just aren't cut out for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939092)



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Date: February 28th, 2016 7:45 PM
Author: Bronze Vibrant Parlor

"On November 21, 2008, the last day that the safe haven law was in effect for children of all ages, a mother from Yolo County, California, drove over 1,200 miles to the Kimball County Hospital in Nebraska where she left her 14-year-old son."

YOLO county . . . 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3145942&forum_id=2#29939324)