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Fifty GOP National Security Experts: 'None Of Us Will Vote For Donald Trump'
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:40 PM Author: harsh aquamarine son of senegal Fifty national security advisers and experts who served in Republican administrations from Richard Nixon to George W. Bush have come out with a new letter expressing dismay, concern and outright fear about Donald Trump's ability to lead the nation and keep the country safe.
The letter, which was first reported by the New York Times, declares their opposition plainly.
"None of us will vote for Donald Trump," it said although it says later that not voting for Trump did not necessarily mean everyone would be supporting Clinton.
The letter goes on to say that Trump "lacks the character, values and experience to be president," that he "weakens U.S. moral authority," "appears to lack the basic knowledge about and belief in the U.S. Constitution, U.S. laws and U.S. institutions including religious tolerance, freedom of the press, and an independent judiciary."
Trump, the letter accuses has "alarmed" American allies with his "erratic behavior."
In the last month, Trump has indicated he was moving away from the U.S. NATO alliance, he has continued to soften his posture toward Russia and continued to blast trade deals Republicans have traditionally supported. His attacks against a Gold Star family has only added to concerns that Trump lacks the poise to serve as the country's Commander In Chief.
In their open letter, national security operatives noted that "Mr. Trump has demonstrated repeatedly that he has little understanding of America's vital national interests, its complex diplomatic challenges, its indispensable alliances, and the Democratic values that on which U.S. foreign policy must be based."
The letter included more names than the March open letter decrying Trump, a symptom of Trump's continued bluster and peculiar backtracking on foreign policy principles that most leaders in this country have taken for granted for decades.
The letter went on to blast Trump's "temperament." The letter noted that a president must be able to both surround himself and listen to key advisers. There was doubt Trump could do that.
"Donald Trump is not the answer," the letter read.
The letter was signed by high-profile figures including former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, Former CIA director Michael Hayden and John Negroponte, the former Director of National Intelligence.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/50-national-security-advisers-say-trump-cannot-be-president |
Date: August 8th, 2016 3:42 PM Author: dashing self-centered piazza *signature page reads like a bar mitzvah guest list* (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135887) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:38 PM Author: Offensive orchid kitty gunner (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136293) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:46 PM Author: Bistre sticky state trump supporter (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136377) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 6:55 PM Author: buck-toothed karate (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137420) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 6:55 PM Author: buck-toothed karate (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137421) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 6:55 PM Author: brindle coldplay fan dingle berry Heheh I love teh jews (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137422) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 7:17 PM Author: passionate hideous codepig Lmao (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137548) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:42 PM Author: harsh aquamarine son of senegal http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/08/us/politics/national-security-letter-trump.html (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135888) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:42 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part Clint Eastwood and the duck dynasty gang know better than these jokers ljl TRUMP 2016! (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135890) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:42 PM Author: harsh aquamarine son of senegal lol (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135891) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:43 PM Author: dashing self-centered piazza Same dorks who got us into Iraq and created the migrant crisis (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135894) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:45 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part (Bad things have happened in US history, therefore everybody with any experience in a field must be ignored in favor of the policy proposals of a reality tv star!) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135916) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:47 PM Author: dashing self-centered piazza (thinks everybody with "any experience" in foreign policy signed this letter) *is probably a kike* |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:51 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part We both know that you would use that exact same line for anybody with experience in the field and who opposes Trump.
Hell, you just idiotically proved it when you said these guys (some of whom worked for Nixon) were the ones who got us involved in Iraq and created the refugee crisis LJL at trumpmos. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:53 PM Author: dashing self-centered piazza (is on board with Nixon and Kissinger if it means shitting on Trump) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135981) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:53 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part See? You can't even deny it now because it's too obvious.
I hate to do this, but you're going to need to state your IQ at this juncture. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:58 PM Author: dashing self-centered piazza holy shit a bunch of neocons signed a letter opposing Trump
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:48 PM Author: Bistre sticky state trump supporter (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136407) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:57 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part What have I been "proven wrong" about?
Speaking of delusional, aren't you the guy who said Trump would win the black vote? |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:14 PM Author: Bistre sticky state trump supporter (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136694) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:15 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part Walk me through what I've been proven wrong about. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136707) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:13 PM Author: floppy love of her life Cr. He gets pwned and simply ignores it the next day, regurgitating discredited talking points. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136690) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:15 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part Walk me through what I've been proven wrong about.
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:23 PM Author: floppy love of her life You refuse to admit Hillary's extreme immigration proposals are tantamount to a modern day open borders policy. Specifically, her proposals to:
1. End all deportations of illegals, unless they have committed a violent crime (in which case the preventable damage has been done) and
2. Grant amnesty to illegals currently here within the first 100 days of her presidency.
Your only "retort" is to disingenuously sneer, "we still have borders, durr!!"
When you certainly are smart enough to know the impact of her proposals. It's open season for any illegal living anywhere else in the world to travel here, paying a smuggler's tax, and begin drawing on our social services and lowering the cost of labor (wages for Americans). With absolutely no consequences to coming here illegally, the floodgates will open.
She saw that "open borders" is a dirty word due to what's happening in Europe so she decided to formulate policies that achieve the same ends, but leave our current border in place so someone like you can just point to that in a failed attempt to dismiss the entire point. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:26 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part I agree it incentives people to try to get in. It is not "open borders" or "modern day open borders" or any other conservative buzz word you want to throw at it that implies HRC will "open" the border.
But yes, it will absolutely create an incentive for people to enter America, for the reasons you cited.
You're still dishonestly characterizing it though. You might as well be Trump!
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:28 PM Author: Mint odious queen of the night How is that dishonestly characterizing what he said? Holy shit dude you need to read your post, it's a mess. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136799) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:29 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part "Open borders" is a dishonest characterization of HRC's policy on immigration.
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:32 PM Author: Mint odious queen of the night I have a policy that involved holding you down against your will and fucking you in the ass, and called it something other than rape.
Good thing you weren't raped. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:28 PM Author: floppy love of her life Since it will necessarily end in the same outcome (illegals flooding the country), this is not a dishonest characterization.
Dishonest is when Hillary is confronted with her unilateral deleting of her illegal private email server and responds: "wipe it, you mean with a cloth??" |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:31 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part (A) It will result in vastly different levels of immigration, so, no, it's not the same outcome. But even if this were true, you'd still be dishonestly characterizing it. For example, let's say Man A stabs somebody to death and Man B negligently hits somebody with their car. Both resulted in death. You would say it's fair to say Man B stabbed somebody to death because the ultimate outcome (a dead person) is the same? Lol. No. Stop lying, just describe the policy and why you have a problem with it and quit using buzz words that have been fed to you by Breitbart or Rush Limbaugh or whatever.
(B) Yes, HRC is very dishonest.
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:36 PM Author: floppy love of her life Using negligence is a horrible analogy, since HRC knows full well what she is doing.
A much better analogy is that Man A intentionally runs over someone with his car, while Man B decides to speed down the highway with a blindfold on, eventually striking someone and killing him.
I say that both men committed murder. You are the genius squawking about Man B's blindfold and how I'm being so "dishonest" when I describe what happened. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 6:40 PM Author: floppy love of her life Guess I won't be getting a response, and you'll be back at it tomorrow, pretending this conversation never happened.
You should just be honest and say you acknowledge Hillary's immigration proposals amount to a modern day open borders policy, but because you think Trump is literally Hitler you are With Her anyway. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 6:43 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part You think HRC wants open borders? So are you predicting that she'll end all law enforcement on our borders when she takes office?
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Date: August 8th, 2016 6:46 PM Author: floppy love of her life Nice response to the analogy.
I already explained what she wants, and what the consequences will be of her proposals.
Point to the blindfold all you want, doesn't change where the car is headed with her as the driver. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:42 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen when you fundamentally think that illegally entering by itself is not a crime which is Hillary's position it is fair to characterize it as open borders. yes we have border patrol but anybody getting caught is going to say he wants asylum and then is going to be released after being registered in our immigration system. and thats pretty much it for 99% of them who dont commit violent crime in US
how is this not open borders? you are essentially saying that if you get in you can stay and the act of illegal entry itself is not a crime
Border Patrol catch and release plus legalization/amnesty is 90% open borders. throw in sanctuary cities and you are pretty much set as an illegal alien in the US
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:44 PM Author: floppy love of her life He knows, he's just extremely disingenuous. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136966) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:29 PM Author: Laughsome Henna Travel Guidebook (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136811) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:43 PM Author: Multi-colored greedy native How has he attacked the independence of the judiciary? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135898) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:47 PM Author: Yellow cheese-eating persian sound barrier by insinuating that the Mexican judge would be bias in his civil suit. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135936) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:50 PM Author: jet rebellious legend rigpig Well, he's ruling on a case involving a Trump business while being a member of an ethnic bar org that called for a boycott of them. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135955) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:55 PM Author: floppy love of her life Except that Trump was too stupid to raise this point. He harped on the judge's ethnicity while others had to point out La Raza and the like.
This pattern of Trump saying seemingly unhinged things and then smarter people come in to explain why he's right is starting to get tiresome. I don't know why this guy can't say these things himself. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:01 PM Author: jet rebellious legend rigpig No, he did mention the judge's bar association. Of course this isn't going to be covered. There was a narrative to keep up. And the whole reason this judge joined this organization and got endorsed by this organization was, in fact, his heritage. It's an ethnic professional association - advancing that group is their whole raison d'etre.
It's the same thing like with Columba Bush influencing Jeb on immigration. It was indeed because she's Mexican.
We're being told we can't talk about all this stuff going on. Wrong. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:08 PM Author: floppy love of her life I'm referring to his repeated interviews. Seemed like he exclusively pointed to the guy's Mexican heritage and ended at that. I'm aware that after several days, he released a statement that vaguely referenced the judge's "professional associations."
But can you link Trump himself actually making this point, not some statement which his advisors probably wrote for him? |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:17 PM Author: jet rebellious legend rigpig http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/03/donald-trump-judge-curiel-hillary-clinton/85363920/ (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136164) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:23 PM Author: floppy love of her life Ok, didn't even realize this. And I already really distrust the media. Such an uphill battle against such a deceptive, influential force. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136190) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:24 PM Author: jet rebellious legend rigpig I agree totally (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136200) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:50 PM Author: floppy love of her life His general premise turned out to be spot on (see RBG).
But his reasons were wrong. Instead of bias rooted in ethnicity it turned out to be rooted in ideological disagreements. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:22 PM Author: ruddy boistinker Be bias? You mean biased (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136185) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:43 PM Author: Deranged Tank Locus Letters like this from Never Trumpers does hurt Trump's odds, but honestly I'm glad to see it come out. The split between GOP nationalists and GOP globalist cucks has been decades coming, and it's important for this to happen in the hopes of forming a true nationalist party down the road (if Trump fails). (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135900) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:48 PM Author: dashing self-centered piazza (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31135938) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:00 PM Author: floppy love of her life True but I don't see how this can happen if Trump loses, because you better believe the globalists in both parties will move swiftly to grant amnesty and/or voting rights to illegals, effectively preventing a viable nationalist party from ever gaining traction.
We really need a guy who advocates many of Trump's proposals, but who isn't so thin-skinned and unhinged. Also, ideally this person would be thoughtful. It is great to be authentic, but more and more Trump strikes me as acting impulsively 100% of the time and incapable of deep thought. Hopefully he can combat this perception in the coming months. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:01 PM Author: dashing self-centered piazza Whites will eventually push for a separate country or some kind of secession IMO (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136044) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:35 PM Author: Rusted dog poop (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136275) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:55 PM Author: my dog can log into xo more often than I can (America First) What do we want? FOREIGN WARS! When do we want them? FOR ALL TIME! |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:42 PM Author: exciting lime trailer park community account (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136329) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:53 PM Author: Vibrant angry range sex offender (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137029) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 6:31 PM Author: smoky senate (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137272) |
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Date: August 9th, 2016 10:28 AM Author: iridescent roommate athletic conference (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31142285) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 3:58 PM Author: sinister really tough guy philosopher-king Is this a list of hasbeens who want their fifteen minutes of fame? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136024) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:16 PM Author: razzle sooty hunting ground twinkling uncleanness just out of curiosity, how many of these "experts" supported the IRAQ disaster? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136152) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:42 PM Author: exciting lime trailer park community account (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136332) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:54 PM Author: Vibrant angry range sex offender i would wager on ALL OF THEM. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137034) |
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Date: August 9th, 2016 10:28 AM Author: iridescent roommate athletic conference (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31142286) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:23 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen DRUMPF he is DONE hehe (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136189) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:27 PM Author: Cerebral sick church building they are scared of losing their jobs, it's that simple (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136216) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:33 PM Author: gaped tripping stage “He is unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood,” the letter says. “He does not encourage conflicting views. He lacks self-control and acts impetuously. He cannot tolerate personal criticism.
literally what the media said about W |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:34 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part Even Trump supporters have to recognize this is accurate though, right? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136262) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:37 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen choice is not between Trump and TR
its between Trump and Hillary. Hillary did not listen to state dept experts on maintaining a private server , showed terrible judgement on libya when she pushed even a hesitant obama to back the rebels etc
funny how her absolutely terrible record on judgement, values is never discussed by these idiots. Trump is shit but Hillary is much worse and is on a 20 year crusade for MY PRESIDENCY |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:40 PM Author: abusive dysfunction Trump doesn't even have a basic working knowledge of foreign policy. There is no way you can dispute this. Do you really want someone that gets their information exclusively from cable news calling the shots? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136309) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:43 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen his foreign policy instincts are much better than idiot hillary who wants to go to fight over Ukraine
explain why Ukraine with his history/location is of any interest to US and why our state dept meddled in its internal affairs?
explain how Hillary is better on foreign policy when she is a Saudi ass licker and Saudis are responsible for driving radical islam up the worlds ass
On Islam and Russia Trump is more right (not perfect) than Hillary. Hillary is the same old neocon shit wrapped up in a non existent cold war.
and we havent got to Libya
give me a fckng break
forget Trump for one second and think of me as an undecided, uneducated voter. Now sell me Hillary |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:45 PM Author: abusive dysfunction Sorry, foreign policy instincts require an actual knowledge of foreign affairs. He hasn't shown any real instincts because he's completely inconsistent in what he says. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136367) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:50 PM Author: Bistre sticky state trump supporter (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136428) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:52 PM Author: abusive dysfunction I'm not going to engage in the arguments that people come up with to justify the retarded shit that comes out of Trump's mouth. This happens every time trump saying something. Everyone rushes to explain what he *really meant*.
Let me know when Trump makes an actual cogent argument defending his policy positions. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:54 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen do you speak english. i said forget Trump and am not asking you to disprove Trump's statements
I said sell me Hillary as a candidate based on her accomplishments, foreign policy acumen etc since YOU said she was good in that arena. i am only asking you to explain your own statement. assume Trump never even entered the race
I will wait. So I am interested in Hillary. convince me to vote for her and focus on the foreign policy
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:56 PM Author: abusive dysfunction did I say she was good? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136502) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:59 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen explain what this implies about Hillary vs Trump then? at the minimum one can interpret it as you saying that Hillary is better in foreign policy. So sell us that argument
Trump doesn't even have a basic working knowledge of foreign policy. There is no way you can dispute this. Do you really want someone that gets their information exclusively from cable news calling the shots?
(Fifty GOP National Security Experts: 'None Of Us Will Vote For Donald Trump')
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:00 PM Author: abusive dysfunction She was SoS so I'm guessing that she at least has a decent grasp on world affairs. This puts her miles ahead of Trump. Not a hard argument to make. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136555) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:04 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen lol
what if she was a shittty terrible SoS? next you are going to say that because GWB was president he must have a decent grasp of foreign affairs
good job libtard. now go ahead and call me a prole racist loser as that is the next step in libtard logic |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:06 PM Author: abusive dysfunction So you'd rather go for the guy that has NO knowledge? That's your fucking solution? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136631) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:11 PM Author: translucent irate selfie alpha tbf, no knowledge > poor knowledge (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136675) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:06 PM Author: alcoholic at-the-ready stage i'd rather have an idiot with good ideas than a knowledgeable person with bad ones (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136639) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:08 PM Author: abusive dysfunction they only sound like good ideas once people on here filter Trump's ramblings into coherent thoughts. There is no proof that he even actually believes any of the arguments people on here make for him. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136658) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:50 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen sell me Hillary. forget Trump exists. Imagine GOP candidate is Bob Dole (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136431) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:53 PM Author: abusive dysfunction why should I pretend Trump doesn't exist? A vote for Hillary is simultaneously a vote not for trump. You can't divorce the two. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136461) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:57 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen OK then tell me why Hillary is better on foreign policy as compared to Trump since you want to compare and contrast. you have only made ad hominem attacks on Trump (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136515) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:58 PM Author: abusive dysfunction Hillary has an actual working knowledge of foreign policy. That alone makes her better. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136529) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:02 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen link?
how has she utilized that "Working knowledge". which is more important? a big picture idea of America's interests/threats or "working knowledge". how does she fare there
all i hear is "hehe Hillary is better and Drumpf is an idiot cable news watcher hehe"
i mean unlike Trump Hillary has a long track record in public service and was literally SoS so you can explain this in detail right. if this is the best you can do you are revealing more than you want to |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:05 PM Author: abusive dysfunction Do you want me to list out every single decision she made as SoS? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136610) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:12 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen no
imagine you have to give a 30 sec/1 min speech selling Hillary's track record, ability and her big picture view of American foreign policy to an uneducated voter
how will you sell Hillary? you seem to imply she is better than Trump. how? in what way? pick a specific topic you want (libya, middle east, russia, china whatever).
let's see if you can do this
for somebody who is supposed to be easily better than Trump its funny that you have so much trouble laying out the case for Hillary. if Trump is such an idiot shouldnt this be a simple task amigo? |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:15 PM Author: abusive dysfunction My entire support for Hillary based on the fact that I believe Trump would be a disaster for America. I'll take 4 more years of status quo over a person that has no self-control and proven unwillingness to listen to anyone around him. I'll take someone with an actual knowledge of foreign affairs over literally no interest or desire to learn (trumpmos admit this ITT).
It's pretty much that simple. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:23 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen you keep saying the same shit over and over.
You can make an argument that Trump's ideas are wrong but not that he lacks ideas. in fact he has lot of bold controversial ideas - role of NATO, ukraine, relationship with russia, on syria etc. so you saying he has no knowledge is bullshit. its just that you dont like his knowledge or what he wants to do. so stop with this idiotic argument
"Actual knowledge of foreign affairs" - wtf does this even mean dumbass? do you think Obama had actual knowledge of foreign affairs when he a fuckng Illinois state senator until Jan 2005? so he became an expert on foreign affairs in just 2.5 years when he announced his candidacy? you realize trump probably traveled and dealt with foreign governments and met more world leaders than Obama until 2006 right?
Hilalry tried the exact same argument against Obama in 2008. that he was an inexperienced guy who lacked foreign policy credentials. lol @ u faggots just parroting whatever media vomits all over you - DRUMPF is an idiot, DRUMPF has no knowledge hehe
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:25 PM Author: abusive dysfunction https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/03/21/a-transcript-of-donald-trumps-meeting-with-the-washington-post-editorial-board/
Read the transcript and try and tell me that Trump knows what the fuck he's talking about. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:31 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen i have read that transcript. this is the one where he compliments some black editorial board member on her looks right? what r u bitching about (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136824) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:32 PM Author: abusive dysfunction I'm bitching about the retarded and indefensible things he says re: foreign policy in that interview (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136840) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:37 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen quote whatever bothers you. i think his interviews with NYT are much better on showing what he actually thinks (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136902) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:43 PM Author: exciting lime trailer park community account true that he has little knowledge of foreign affairs, but i'd take that over someone with plenty of knowledge and deranged ambitions. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136352) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:46 PM Author: abusive dysfunction So we should vote for him because he's so far in over his head that he has no real ambitions (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136380) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:47 PM Author: gaped tripping stage this is actually cr (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136394) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 6:29 PM Author: Coral abode No, it really isn't. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137252) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:57 PM Author: exciting lime trailer park community account more that he doesn't really care all that much. i'm certain he could grasp the nuances of worldly politics, but has comparatively little interest in them versus domestic matters.
playing nice with russia and focusing on the homefront seems sensible. boo-hoo if some neo-con faggots don't get to live out their tom clancy fantasies. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:59 PM Author: abusive dysfunction Just do be POTUS and have no knowledge or interest in world politics (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136544) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:03 PM Author: exciting lime trailer park community account it's not ideal, but better than the alternative. thanks two-party sysTTTem! (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136595) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:03 PM Author: Mint odious queen of the night As opposed to going to funerals for friends who got killed in some sandy butthole desert in the middle east, yea, that sounds pretty good. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136584) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:42 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part I would rather choose somebody at random from the phone book and make them POTUS than have somebody like Trump in office. At least some people have enough humility to recognize there limitations and act accordingly. But not Trump. He "knows more than the generals" and doesn't need any additional information - he's got it all figured out himself and will act based on his gut.
A man like this (arrogant, ignorant, thin-skinned, impulsive, and lacking in self control) cannot become POTUS.
There's a reason North Korea and Russia support Trump. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:44 PM Author: Cerebral sick church building It's just a public persona. He's trying to win an election. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136355) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:45 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part So what should we judge him on if not his actions and statements? His history of success in reality television? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136364) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:47 PM Author: Cerebral sick church building You can judge him on whatever you want, I'm just saying that you can't make any intelligent assessment of how he would perform as president based on how he presents himself to the teeming masses during election season. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136393) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:58 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part So what should I judge him on? His policy papers? His decades of public service? Serious question - you're saying I can't judge him based on how he campaigns so.....? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136526) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:02 PM Author: Cerebral sick church building I said you could judge him however you like (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136576) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:03 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part Are you a trumpmo? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136582) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:09 PM Author: Cerebral sick church building I don't really align myself with politicians, and I have a consummately pessimistic outlook on US politics. That being said, I don't think a Trump presidency would be the end of the world. In any case, I live in a deep blue state and won't be voting. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136659) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:13 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part Fair enough. At least you aren't one of the Trumpmos who supports him but says he can't be judged based on his actions, his statements, etc. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136685) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:48 PM Author: floppy love of her life This is what I always thought but recent actions have me thinking this is actually how he really is. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136408) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:59 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part Hitler in his bunker: "Guys, starting to feel like we might not win this thing." (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136543) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:44 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen you should DITHQUALIFY him (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136357) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:46 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part I thought after Trump dithqualified HRC the trumptards would stop with this one. Too bad. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136372) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:50 PM Author: ebony nighttime liquid oxygen good try. I think your faggot president and his press secretary DITHQUALIFIED him way back in december. do you have selective memory? and all the libs went crazy about how Trump was DISTHQUALIFIED. the whole meme came from that
so i guess Trump is DITHQUALIFIED?
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:58 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal Temple Party Of The First Part I guess so. And Trump DITHQUALIFIED HRC.
So who is running now that both candidates are DITHQUALIFIED? |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:15 PM Author: Mint odious queen of the night It's funny - I feel the same way about HRC. Corrupt, all the bad things about leftist SJW's combined with a neocon foreign policy, TTP supporting, tax raising, pro-wall street, SJW coddling - all the bad policies, then on top of it, have to deal with Clinton scandals for 4 to 8 years. On top of that, the murderer's row of foreigners and others who have given her enormous sums of money and what they can expect for their investment.
I would rather just have no president then HRC, literally going 4 years without a identifiable leader of the country would be preferable.
Arguments aside, it's funny that two people could have such differing opinions. |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 7:11 PM Author: soul-stirring house-broken stain maybe because they know Hillary is likely to start a war w them? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31137513) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:54 PM Author: Arrogant immigrant market I hope the MY PRESIDENCY thing catches on here. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136474) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:05 PM Author: Mint odious queen of the night I like it. I'm going to throw it out there IRL. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136614) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:34 PM Author: heady spruce death wish station ? link? I don't recall anyone saying any of these except for the one about conflicting views (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136266) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:48 PM Author: gaped tripping stage get BP to do a nexus search, they're all there (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136409) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:38 PM Author: Fragrant green box office this is great news...for trump (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136299) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 4:49 PM Author: white laser beams I recognize one name. Tom Ridge. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136413) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:14 PM Author: translucent irate selfie alpha He's on your side now. Have fun. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136700) |
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Date: August 9th, 2016 10:28 AM Author: iridescent roommate athletic conference (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31142290) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:27 PM Author: chrome gay wizard These same (((experts))) led us into Iraq and had no qualms about supporting George W. Bush. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136791) |
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Date: August 8th, 2016 5:30 PM Author: Diverse Federal Shrine LOL, just a bunch of Jews hell-bent on Greater Israel. Fuck them all. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3315593&forum_id=2#31136817) |
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Date: June 12th, 2019 10:34 PM Author: pink internal respiration cruise ship What is the thought process behind Never Trump Republicans who know how DC works going public against Trump when the alternative is Hillary?
They surely realize that if Trump wins, they'll be totally irrelevant despite their party being in power. And if Trump loses, none of them will be appointed to anything given how many Dems are waiting to fill those plum positions.
The only explanation that comes to mind is that they're all swamp creatures who want to make sure they'll still be invited to fancy cocktail parties, dinners, roundtables, and other social opportunities in DC. Coming out against Trump was the best way to hedge, fully realizing that their days of true influence are behind them. |
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Date: June 13th, 2019 12:59 AM Author: floppy love of her life Is that really the only explanation that comes to mind?
You didn't happen to notice how the signatories were vastly disproportionately members of a (((certain))) religion? Might that offer an alternative explanation? |
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