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Girl I fucked last night used a female condom. it was disgusting

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Floppy black temple
  08/22/20
how old was she? weight?
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  08/22/20
33 weighed bout 150
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gross
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dood its a lost cause at that age/weight.
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how much prison time did u get
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lol why would anyone use these instead of a regular condom
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Date: August 22nd, 2020 7:41 PM
Author: Floppy black temple

she shoved this bizarre shopping bg like thing up her pussy and lubbed it up. it was like I was fucking some ziplock bag shoved in-between sofa seats

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 7:41 PM
Author: flirting henna hairy legs abode

how old was she? weight?

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:21 PM
Author: Floppy black temple

33 weighed bout 150

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:21 PM
Author: flirting henna hairy legs abode

gross

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:22 PM
Author: Floppy black temple

I kept thinking how much of a WHORE she must be to 1 have female condoms 2 know how to use them and 3 even want to use it

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:25 PM
Author: flirting henna hairy legs abode

dood its a lost cause at that age/weight.

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Date: September 24th, 2020 10:32 AM
Author: charismatic deranged address yarmulke

Lol

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Date: December 12th, 2020 5:51 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2020 7:42 PM
Author: adventurous laser beams brunch

was her name elaine benes

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 7:42 PM
Author: dashing soggy organic girlfriend

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 9:48 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2020 7:45 PM
Author: concupiscible beta stage

Did you cum in the male?

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:21 PM
Author: Floppy black temple

usually I fake cum so I don't have to keep plugging away at the ugly Hogs I fuck but this time I had to produce

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:24 PM
Author: Elite regret

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:33 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2020 9:45 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2020 9:53 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2020 7:47 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2020 7:51 PM
Author: confused plaza

Did she wash it for reuse afterward

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:26 PM
Author: Heady Azure Principal's Office Clown

Just threw up from reading op. Not joking

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:33 PM
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Date: December 12th, 2020 5:51 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2020 9:21 PM
Author: boyish corn cake

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 9:26 PM
Author: aromatic cream area stock car

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 9:41 PM
Author: Contagious Market

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 9:45 PM
Author: shaky deer antler tattoo

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 10:04 PM
Author: Contagious Market

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 9:51 PM
Author: Sexy national fanboi

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Date: August 22nd, 2020 11:09 PM
Author: Floppy black temple

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Date: August 23rd, 2020 12:08 AM
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Date: August 23rd, 2020 12:14 AM
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Date: August 23rd, 2020 12:16 AM
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Date: August 23rd, 2020 12:15 PM
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Date: August 24th, 2020 10:57 AM
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Date: August 23rd, 2020 12:15 AM
Author: Multi-colored Obsidian Mad-dog Skullcap

It was a shit test and you failed.

Extramarital sex is degenerate anyway. Repent and be saved and enjoy the fruits of conjugal bliss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40796688)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 8:47 AM
Author: Beady-eyed sweet tailpipe meetinghouse

Did she follow the CDC guidelines?

https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/Female-condom-use.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40797156)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 10:30 AM
Author: Floppy black temple

pretty much it was theemost unattractive thing I ever seen. also she knew exactly how to use it so she def has done it before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40797380)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 10:31 AM
Author: razzle purple menage main people

lol why would anyone use these instead of a regular condom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40797384)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 12:12 PM
Author: Elite regret

*Female condoms can also be used for anal sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40797927)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 4:30 AM
Author: Umber Swashbuckling Party Of The First Part Pisswyrm

*Peterman furiously scribbling notes*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40801603)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:43 PM
Author: Beady-eyed sweet tailpipe meetinghouse

this seems dangerous. even in clownworld i am surprised the cdc recommends this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40803377)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 10:56 AM
Author: High-end electric dingle berry cuckold

"ziplock bag shoved in-between sofa seats"... I mean, if it was a fine calfskin leather sofa...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40797472)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 11:24 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone painfully honest theater stage new version

Some shitmod please nuke this thread, it’s just too horrifying in 2020 what with everyone being forced to wear nasty diapers on their faces, app hypergamy destroying the family unit, unnatural genital self-mutilation being celebrated and subsidized, god I just can’t take it I’m going to vomit until I choke on it to death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40797621)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 4:25 AM
Author: Umber Swashbuckling Party Of The First Part Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40801594)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 10:35 AM
Author: adventurous laser beams brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40802091)



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Date: March 29th, 2022 1:57 PM
Author: violent boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#44240174)



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Date: August 23rd, 2020 6:30 PM
Author: Floppy black temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40799412)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:39 PM
Author: ruby internet-worthy sanctuary son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40803361)



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Date: August 24th, 2020 2:41 PM
Author: Bespoke hairraiser whorehouse

Repulsive. Reads like IGWC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40803367)



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Date: August 31st, 2020 10:51 PM
Author: Floppy black temple

she invited me over tonight think im going to go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40849083)



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Date: September 22nd, 2020 11:56 AM
Author: ebony ticket booth turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40966035)



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Date: September 23rd, 2020 10:46 PM
Author: cyan shrine sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40976181)



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Date: September 24th, 2020 10:17 AM
Author: Elite regret

OP is a modern day Canzoniere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#40978098)



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Date: December 12th, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: hyperventilating space kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#41535783)



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Date: December 12th, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: shaky deer antler tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#41535784)



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Date: December 12th, 2020 5:49 PM
Author: diverse rough-skinned university juggernaut

im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#41535793)



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Date: March 29th, 2022 2:03 PM
Author: Sooty soul-stirring library tank

update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#44240202)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 9:34 AM
Author: Provocative pink ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#45545992)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:14 PM
Author: Spruce indecent feces sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#45546593)



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Date: November 26th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: yapping mauve idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#45546600)



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Date: November 10th, 2023 6:51 PM
Author: hyperventilating space kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#47042790)



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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:16 PM
Author: Sepia Bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#47384670)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 1:40 PM
Author: Insanely creepy thriller gas station sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#47766656)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: Sick forum

Couch fucking bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4608687&forum_id=2#47893334)