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Do I need an attorney for a misdemeanor DUI?
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:13 AM Author: Bateful Persian Or should I just roll with a public defender? No injuries caused, no other vehicles damaged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43667964) |
Date: December 24th, 2021 9:14 AM Author: Titillating Navy Mood Philosopher-king how and when did you cop the intoxicated driving charge? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43667965) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:18 AM Author: Bateful Persian Yesterday at 2 am. Lost control of my vehicle on a slick road. Ran into a tree. I was fairly close to home and was like fuck this so I started walking the backstreets to get home so I wouldn't get picked up. Cops saw me walking, stopped me and arrested me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43667974) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:21 AM Author: stimulating amethyst location turdskin Did you consent to a breath test like an idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43667988) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:23 AM Author: Mustard Whorehouse doesn't really matter anymore they will get a blood test and then they will get you for blood pressure medication or whatever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43668002) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:26 AM Author: stimulating amethyst location turdskin A breath test above the limit is way worse than a blood test below the limit because of the time delay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43668016) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:25 AM Author: Bateful Persian Yes, but not in the field. Once back to the lockup I called an attorney before doing so and he advised me to blow. Refusal in MN is an auto suspension of your license for one year. Maybe it was dumb, but I did talk to a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43668011) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:27 AM Author: stimulating amethyst location turdskin Can’t you just agree to a blood test instead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43668022) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:28 AM Author: Bateful Persian Have no clue about any of this stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43668031) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:39 AM Author: Hateful pea-brained state azn Why would you ask for a blood test instead of a breathalyzer, which can be attacked in numerous ways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673218) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 7:16 PM Author: odious stage This. In a situation like yours where no injuries occurred you’re better off blowing. XO really thinks you can just refuse and get off? Lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670692) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:40 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Yes, he can blow and get off.
You can attack a blow a dozen different ways.
IF you got blood with a high .BAC, then you are FUCKT |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 12:07 PM Author: pale awkward trailer park gunner Did you miss the part where you lose your license for 1 yr if you refuse to blow
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Date: December 27th, 2021 10:31 AM Author: Sooty black woman ESL? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43682277) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 7:13 PM Author: motley theater stage skinny woman Man u sound dumb as fuck. Couldn't u evade them under some fence until they disappeared? U may also get charged with leaving scene of an accident at a later date. They often take time to bring that vharge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670686) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 7:17 PM Author: Galvanic hissy fit And risk catching an evasion charge? Some cops live for the chase (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670694) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 7:22 PM Author: motley theater stage skinny woman If they're going to charge him with leaving the scene it doesnt matter if they find him next morning at his home or as they did while he was walking. No way they would find him if he hid behind someone's house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670709) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 4:58 PM Author: self-centered vibrant rehab boistinker Once I had a cop light me up about 200 yards behind me. I took the first right, bailed out of my car, then hightailed it across a football field and hid behind the equipment shed. Didn’t go back to recover my car for two days. This was in Ennis, Montana in August 1995. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43684826) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:41 AM Author: Bateful Persian lmao dude I was ducking and dodging through alleys and behind houses. It was cold as fuck or I probably would have just slept outside. As it turns out they were watching my house so I would have been fucked either way if I got home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673231) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:35 PM Author: Glassy idea he suggested hospital Fucking cops, man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673715) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:43 PM Author: Galvanic hissy fit So they ran your registration, got your address and set up shop waiting for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673777) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 3:43 PM Author: Bateful Persian Yep. They were combing the neighborhood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674388) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:39 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Your state might suspend your DL within 30 days if you don't request an administrative hearing.
PD is not going to represent you at that hearing. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 3:48 PM Author: Bateful Persian It's already suspended for 90 days, after a week grace period (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674407) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 3:00 PM Author: rough-skinned gas station genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674168) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 9:14 AM Author: Dead Bawdyhouse PD for the best plea
Private if you want a trial |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:41 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler PD if you want the best plea on the DAY OF TRIAL, because they won't have time to investigate your case or file dispopsitive motions until then.
Private if you want a chill as fuck, former ProsBro who knows the Judge and Elected Prosecutor that will negotiate the charge to a non-moving violation. |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 2:54 PM Author: diverse karate This is profoundly wrong and stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43683905) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 6:51 PM Author: Bateful Persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670601) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 6:53 PM Author: House-broken laughsome corn cake Don’t ever settle for a public pretender. You need a real paid attorney. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670607) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 6:55 PM Author: Jet alpha cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670612) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:36 AM Author: useless kink-friendly volcanic crater jap meh i did these as a PD and i gave great service and my relationship with the prosbro and the judge was better than ANY private lawyer was going to have. ymmv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673200) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:42 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler "my relationship with the prosbro and the judge was better than ANY private lawyer was going to have"
Unless you golf with the Elected ProsBro and actually practiced with the Judge before s/he took the bench, then I doubt your relationship was better than any private lawyer in your jurisdiction. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:48 PM Author: Mustard Whorehouse be nice to luis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673800) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 6:08 PM Author: useless kink-friendly volcanic crater jap depends. in a big jrx where DUIs are done in bigger courts, yes. in my jrx, they're done in muni court by guys who are shitlawyers in other jrx. think more like country time law. different types of birds. iirc, you're in a big city so it's a really different animal. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:50 AM Author: Passionate startled roommate base ? Pd here. He’d be lucky to have me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673278) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:47 PM Author: Misunderstood House Wrinkle 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673798) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 6:54 PM Author: Jet alpha Don’t be an idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670609) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 6:56 PM Author: Passionate startled roommate base What were the test results? Did you do the field sobriety tests? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670616) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:39 AM Author: Bateful Persian they didn't find me behind the wheel but picked me up as I was walking home so no field sobriety test (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673225) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 7:15 PM Author: Zippy Ratface i got handed a DUI as an occasional public defender down in texas...this chick was on xanax...pleaded her out to probation...I was never taught how to do this stuff by law school! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670689) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 7:02 PM Author: bearded brethren Did you bang (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43685433) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 9:54 PM Author: Zippy Ratface wtf you talking bout, willis? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43686394) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 7:18 PM Author: startling mexican I love when lawyers say with a straight face, "and after the wreck, my client was so shaken up with the wreck he had a few drinks to calm his nerves". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670699) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 7:32 PM Author: umber contagious reading party Isn’t the cutoff for a public defender like well below the poverty line?
LOL at how far this bort has fallen. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:39 AM Author: useless kink-friendly volcanic crater jap they never check this. you fill out a form and it gets "filed" meaning it goes in a manila folder and disappears into a shelf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673223) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:44 AM Author: Passionate startled roommate base In many courts they don’t even have you fill out a form and judge just asks if you’d like a pd appointed to you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673244) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:47 AM Author: useless kink-friendly volcanic crater jap cr. i was going to say this. there were a couple of times i met guys on line in municipal court and just threw them on top of my docket and they skated right through like indigent clients. lmao. no one gave a fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673264) |
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Date: December 24th, 2021 7:35 PM Author: Misanthropic coiffed ticket booth Of you can afford a lawyer, wouldn't you not be eligible for a PD? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43670769) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:30 AM Author: Bateful Persian Just talked to a dude who sounded like mob boss and he said that because they did not find me behind the wheel I have an affirmative defense and can likely beat this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673166) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:35 AM Author: Mustard Whorehouse oh they all say that until you pay them $3500
then they'll be like
"what we need to do is plead guilty" |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:38 AM Author: Bateful Persian lmao i get that. Just wondering if the cops not arresting me at the scene but instead 20 minutes later will in any way make it possible to beat this thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673214) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:12 PM Author: motley theater stage skinny woman I'd be more worried that they add on leaving scene of accident charge. They can also get your cellphone records which proves u were in that car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673596) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:43 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler That's kinda generous for a DUI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673781) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:44 PM Author: Mustard Whorehouse what do you mean? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673784) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:11 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler I routinely charge $5,000. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673930) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 6:08 PM Author: useless kink-friendly volcanic crater jap first time dui? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43675053) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 4:26 PM Author: diverse karate you have always seemed like a terrible lawyer. I remember when you were begging XO for job help at one point.
$5K is what the “phone book guy” top dog specialist charges in most JDXs. LOL at some blown out low-level prosecutor who pivoted to the horrible clown world of shitlaw family law demanding the same fee. |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 7:59 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler I guess this is the point where I'm supposed to engage in a jaunt into a subthread wasteland where I refute your accusing and try to defend my internet-reputation?
Ok, here goes:
No, u. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:35 AM Author: vigorous painfully honest ladyboy fortuitous meteor Just hire TSINAH and don’t pay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673191) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:38 AM Author: Ruddy Excitant Native He won't show so it all evens out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673211) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:42 AM Author: khaki menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673239) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:46 AM Author: vigorous painfully honest ladyboy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673262) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:48 AM Author: Brindle Forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673270) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:48 AM Author: wine mentally impaired hall private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673271) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:21 PM Author: Cheese-eating sticky stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673646) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 1:31 AM Author: adventurous scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43676705) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:37 AM Author: Hateful pea-brained state azn lmao, you have to financially qualify for a PD
TBF, you're not the first literal pauper to poast here and face criminal charges |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 6:44 PM Author: Bateful Persian see above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43675207) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:41 AM Author: useless kink-friendly volcanic crater jap jrx? in some, if this is a first time you have no reason not to try it because a plea and a bench trial get the same sentencing because statutory no trial penalty at sentencing.
in that case, get a private lawyer. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:43 AM Author: Bateful Persian minneapolis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673242) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:45 AM Author: useless kink-friendly volcanic crater jap you lawl, right? check to see if MN has this rule. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673251) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:45 AM Author: Bateful Persian not lolyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673257) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:55 AM Author: useless kink-friendly volcanic crater jap talk to a dwi specialist and see what he says. 3500 sounds about right. i would do first timers at about this rate because in my jrx im trying a first timer no matter what. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673309) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 11:57 AM Author: Bateful Persian most are saying 2500 to 3500. The guy who specializes in criminal defense and says that he will 100% take this to trial with a good chance to win is asking for 6500 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673326) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:14 PM Author: motley theater stage skinny woman If u take it to trial and lose dont u get a harsher punishment? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673601) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 1:26 PM Author: Cheese-eating sticky stead I'm not a crimmo (I'm not even a lawyer), so I'm hardly an expert in this area. But my understanding is that it depends. In many cases that is true, but not always. I have a friend who just got a second DUI and her attorney advised her to take it to trial even though the odds are against her. He said that you can often get leniency if you take a plea before your first DUI. But for a second DUI, the sentence you'll get if you lose at trial will be about the same as any plea deal they would offer you, so you may as well take it to trial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673677) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:50 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Nobody is getting jail time on a 1st time DUI.
Your county Sheriff needs every single bed for the violent felons. He doesn't have time for some bullshit DUI taking up space for 30-60 days.
Even if you did get jail time (lol), the Sheriff would give you 2 for 1 or even 4 for 1 reduction just to get you the fuck out. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: Cheese-eating sticky stead In my state, a second DUI gives a minimum of two weeks in jail. The DA is not allowed to offer a deal for less than that, and the judge is not allowed to lower the sentence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674484) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 8:01 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Exactly, you will get sentenced to 14 days. However, once the Sheriff takes custody of you he is free to give you 2 or even 4 for 1 good time credit.
How else do you think the local jail keeps from being overcrowded with all of those "tough on crime Judges" on the bench? |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 10:43 PM Author: Cheese-eating sticky stead I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that the state has a formula for good time credit and the local sheriff or warden is not allowed to deviate from the formula. And the formula only gives you 1-2 days per month, so it doesn't help with a 14-day sentence. I'm not an expert on DUI law, but everyone I have talked to has told me that for a second DUI in my state, the only way to avoid 14 days minimum in jail is to either go to inpatient rehab or wear an alcohol-detecting ankle monitor for six months or something like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43686688) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:08 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Please link to this statue that prohibits a Sheriff from dictating how long he must hold someone in their county jail.
You might be referring to a statute that calcuates how much good time credit the Department of Corrections can give someone.
However, typically the DOC controls the State prisons. DOC doesn't control the county jails, the Sheriff does. |
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Date: December 28th, 2021 11:38 AM Author: Cheese-eating sticky stead What is your IQ and LSAT score? How the fuck can I prove a negative? If you are trying to tell me that a sheriff can overrule a judge and unilaterally reduce sentence, I want to see the statute that says a sheriff has that power. For the record, my state is North Carolina. Based on my reading of the Structured Sentencing Act, even judges have very little discretion about the length of sentences in most cases, and they can only be reduced based on the formula outlined in the statute, not at a sheriff's discretion. And the statute says that DUI's do not follow the general guidelines. In particular, a second DUI has a mandatory 14-day jail sentence that cannot be reduced by a prosecutor or a judge or anyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43688710) |
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Date: December 28th, 2021 12:06 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler So in your angry screed you are acknowleding that you:
a) Don't practice DUI law; b) Barely practice any criminal law; & c) barely read the Structured Sentencing Act because it clearly said:
"The State’s structured sentencing laws went into effect on October 1, 1994, and apply to all misdemeanor offenses committed on or after that date (except for “driving while impaired,” “driving while impaired in a commercial vehicle,” and “failure to comply with control conditions by persons with communicable diseases”)
So you really have no idea what powers a county Sheriff has in regard to controlling their jail.
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Date: December 27th, 2021 10:05 AM Author: lascivious bat shit crazy sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43682156) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:12 PM Author: Heady halford meetinghouse Nah, PD is good enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673941) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:13 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler (Guy who thinks taking a plea to probation is good enough) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673945) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:16 PM Author: Bateful Persian Estimate my chances of beating the charges at trial. They did not find me behind the wheel and only arrested me like 20 minutes later. I'm sure my attorney will tell me to say I drank from a hip flask out of fear and relief after crashing my truck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673962) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:18 PM Author: Galvanic hissy fit Seems like trying this will just piss off the judge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673970) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:24 PM Author: Bateful Persian Still gotta prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43673992) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:51 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler This shit isn't going anywhere near a Court room.
Unless this is a rural as fuck jurisdiction, the Judge is too busy with REAL CRIMES to blow a jury on a 1st time DUI. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:59 PM Author: Passionate startled roommate base We have specific misdemeanor judges who do the misdemeanor trials. Duis go to trial all the time here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674165) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 3:02 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Sure, 2nd or 3rd DUI's, or DUI's with injuries & blood.
This rinky-dink shit where there are NO EYE-WITNESSES to him being behind the wheel and no admission to drinking prior to the wreck, is not going to trial.
That's before you realize that every criminal court in the county has a YUUUUUGE backlog of cases due to Covid. Your misdemeanor Judges only have a small number of available jury trial weeks. |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 3:05 PM Author: Passionate startled roommate base No, I’m talking first time duis exactly like the one op is describing. I have one like this in January. We’ve got a huge backlog thanks to covid but it just means clients are waiting longer for their trials than usual (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674183) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 8:05 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Judges want to clear their dockets ASA-fucking-P. They know they only have a dozen or so weeks for criminal jury trials.
They don't want to blow a jury trial on some low level non-injury, 1st lifetime DUI from late-2021 when they have SERIOUS DUI's from 2019 still waiting to be tried.
The assigned Prosecutor is gonna cut a deal to get rid of this case so they can focus on their more legit DUI's. |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 4:30 PM Author: diverse karate You think a county/muni judge can actively prevent a Defendant from exercising right to trial?
Jesus Christ, I pity anyone who hires this dipshit. |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 8:02 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Is that what you read, because that's not even close to what I typed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43685734) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:48 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler ProsBro has to prove that your original CRASH was due to being intoxicated.
Do they have a confession from you that you were drinking PRIOR to the crash? If not, then they can't prove that your crashed because you were drunk or because of a deer/dog in the street, or maybe you're just a shitty driver.
Sober people crash all the time.
Did they draw blood? If so, what was the BAC? |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 3:47 PM Author: Bateful Persian No blood draw but I did blow as refusing is an immediate 1 year suspension of license and harsher penalties than the lowest level dwi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674402) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 10:16 AM Author: khaki menage why do you have to blow if they didn't find you driving? are random people on the street obligated to blow if asked? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43677449) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 10:02 AM Author: Bateful Persian lawyer told me too, but yeah I probably should have refused (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43682145) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 8:02 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler What did you blow?
Did you give any kind of statement? |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 2:52 PM Author: Titillating Navy Mood Philosopher-king what is your day job? you need to think about whether you should or need to disclose this to your job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674117) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 6:45 PM Author: Bateful Persian I don't but I am going to tell my boss because not being able to drive is going to be a problem at first (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43675211) |
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Date: December 29th, 2021 3:03 PM Author: Bateful Persian Talked to my boss yesterday about being a dumbfuck. Fun Convo! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43695283) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 4:16 PM Author: Flickering codepig If you were not in or near the car, you might walk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43674531) |
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Date: December 25th, 2021 6:45 PM Author: Bateful Persian i'm pumped bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43675209) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 1:08 AM Author: motley theater stage skinny woman What about him being charged with leaving the scene of an accident? Isnt that a felony? Cops usually take several months to bring that charge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43676684) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 1:12 AM Author: Galvanic hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43676685) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 1:15 AM Author: motley theater stage skinny woman As far as I know injury or damage to any property over a certain $. So if u damaged some city highway sign it might qualify. If no damage and just misdemeanor it's still as bad as a dwi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43676689) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 12:20 PM Author: Bateful Persian Hitting a tree does not constitute an accident (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43678185) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 1:27 AM Author: Sienna trip tanning salon boy it's a real fucking bummer that some "teen" stole your car and wrapped it around a tree leading you to wander out on foot from your house to try to find it on a night when you had been peacefully drinking at home nearby. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43676700) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 1:34 AM Author: Galvanic hissy fit Seems dependent on what he admitted to cops (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43676713) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 1:32 AM Author: Domesticated spruce multi-billionaire It sounds like the prosecution has a slam dunk case that you drove while drunk. The crashed car and everything else is just a distraction. What is your jury trial defense to their case? They caught me walking near my wrecked car 20 minutes later does not seem like a compelling defense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43676708) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 1:35 AM Author: Galvanic hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43676714) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 11:54 AM Author: motley theater stage skinny woman Yep, theyll get your cell phone data (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43678013) |
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Date: December 26th, 2021 12:04 PM Author: cordovan cruel-hearted school cafeteria mother provided youre not this biatch, you should be alright https://archive.ph/rb0Ln |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 2:56 PM Author: charismatic famous landscape painting who the fuck is this mama san (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43683925) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 10:27 AM Author: fluffy institution regret It depends on what the case facts are, and what kind of outcome you're looking for. Are there any facts/weird Minnesota laws and cases that are favorable to you getting out of it? This could be 4A search issues, the admissibility or credibility of the evidence, etc.
However, in my jx, the financial hit from a first-time misdemeanor DUI is probably just about $3500 if you go with the PD and work with them in doing pre-plea mitigation (community service and alcohol treatment). If you don't NEED a completely 100% spotless driving/criminal record, and are more interested in getting out of this with the minimum hassle to yourself, I would seriously weigh the costs/benefits of this route. |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 4:31 PM Author: carnelian principal's office can't you get c&f pwnd for a DUI? getting a dui would be career ending for me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43684707) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 6:01 PM Author: Crimson Concupiscible Old Irish Cottage Pit I really don’t think it’s career ending (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43685108) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 6:02 PM Author: carnelian principal's office isn't it mandatory to self-report an arrest to the medical board? and then they put you in some substance abuse program and restrict your license? maybe the first DUI is a slap on the wrist but i'm not looking to find out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43685110) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 8:16 PM Author: Crimson Concupiscible Old Irish Cottage Pit You obviously have to report it but I really don’t think it would take away your license (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43685815) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 9:23 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Most State Bars DGAF unless you've been convicted of a felony. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43686196) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 4:43 PM Author: diverse karate Good post, actually helpful unlike 95% of this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43684767) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 4:42 PM Author: diverse karate Push for some kind of pretrial diversion where you go to alcohol classes and install one of those BAC test machines in your car. In a couple of years they can amend the charge to reckless driving or whatever ‘wet and reckless’ statute exists around there. You won’t have to do the classes and have the breath test thing installed the whole time.
You do not have a strong defense based on fleeing the scene. This is not exotic and prosecutors are adept at overcoming stupid shit like this. Anyone talking about how this is an obvious trial is blowing smoke at you. At best you have a pseudo-corpus motion that can probably be defeated but the mere possibility for litigation will often cause the prosecutor to offer a very favorable deal. Find a lawyer who seems to understand this and will discuss alternatives to a straight guilty plea or trial. Any good PD should be familiar with all this.
Do some research on what I mentioned and kick some tires with local DUI specialists. Meet with the PD and discuss your options and realistic chances of a ‘third way’ deal. Don’t be a confrontational asshole about this either — if you are nice to your ‘indigent’ counsel and help them help you, you are likely to get better treatment and more attention than from retained counsel.
Remember, crim law bros are in business and just want to resolve your case as quickly as they can. LOL at believing that hiring a guy means he’s necessarily going to get a better result. Many of these people are TSINAH-style charlatans who do not know how to try cases or litigate pretrial, and they will say anything to sign you up. All they need to do to keep your money is take your calls, show up to hearings, and make one phone call to the State asking if they’ll dismiss (the answer is no!). If they do a shitty job and screw you, you basically have zero recourse. |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 5:56 PM Author: carnelian principal's office goddamn. maybe i should stop drinking & driving (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43685073) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 6:54 PM Author: Passionate startled roommate base You should. Huge hassle to deal with the consequences (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43685398) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 6:56 PM Author: Passionate startled roommate base They actually do pretrial diversion for duis in your area? That never happens in Ca. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43685410) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 8:08 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler In my jurisdiction they've started doing "DUI Court"
If you successfully complete it, then you'll get a reduction on your charge, plus a nice certificate. |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:18 PM Author: Lime elite orchestra pit DUI criminality has grown highly political in CA over the years. CA is different than most other states in many respects but DUI stands out. Most jurisdictions have multiple outlets to prevent first-time DUI straight convictions (although they can still frequently count the case as a prior for future charging purposes if a statue considers that). In most Oregon jurisdictions, if there are no aggravating circumstances, they will divert the case to an outright dismissal if the Defendant completes some generic requirements. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43686886) |
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Date: December 27th, 2021 11:24 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Across the country, courts are moving towards "Accountability Courts" to deal with drug and DUI crimes instead of simply wasting jail space and locking people up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43686911) |
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Date: December 28th, 2021 12:56 AM Author: orange impertinent spot Orange County California has a diversion program called DUI Court. I guess that's where Idris practices. OC juries are probably tougher on DUIs than any other CA county so maybe that's why. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43687307) |
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Date: December 28th, 2021 9:46 AM Author: charismatic famous landscape painting idris is a fucking nigger coon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43688152) |
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Date: December 28th, 2021 12:02 PM Author: Soul-stirring maniacal deer antler Proud graduate of Abraham Lincoln Online (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992614&forum_id=2#43688841) |