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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:39 PM Author: Bearded rigpig Seriously:
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:25 AM Author: sable international law enforcement agency Melissa Sanchez is a reporter at ProPublica. She joined ProPublica in 2017 and is focused on immigrants and low-wage workers. Her work here examining Chicago’s punitive ticketing and debt collection system helped prompt major reforms, including changes to state law and an end to driver’s license suspensions over ticket debt. She previously worked for The Chicago Reporter, Catalyst Chicago, el Nuevo Herald in Miami and the Yakima (Wash.) Herald-Republic, and has received numerous local and national awards for her reporting. She lives in Chicago with her husband, their two young children and two cats. She is the daughter of immigrants from Mexico and El Salvador, and she speaks Spanish.
Melissa Sanchez es una reportera de ProPublica. Se unió al equipo en 2017 y se enfoca en historias sobre inmigrantes y trabajadores de bajos ingresos. Sus reportajes examinando el sistema de multas de tránsito en Chicago impulsó grandes reformas, incluyendo nuevas leyes estatales que eliminaron la norma que suspendía las licencias de conducir por deudas de tráfico. Previamente Melissa trabajó para The Chicago Reporter, Catalyst Chicago, el Nuevo Herald en Miami y el Yakima Herald-Republic en el estado de Washington. Ha recibido varios premios locales y nacionales por sus reportajes. Vive en Chicago con su esposo, dos hijos pequeños y dos gatas malcriadas. Es hija de inmigrantes de México y de El Salvador y habla español. |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:36 AM Author: sable international law enforcement agency Emily Hopkins
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:41 PM Author: curious henna den Not reading everything, but do they even entertain the idea that perhaps they commit infractions at higher rates? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766659) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:42 PM Author: Chocolate main people knife they are forced to speed and run red lights because they are escaping racist police officers and klansmen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766662) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:42 PM Author: curious henna den no doubt, I’ve heard that’s MAGA country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766667) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:43 PM Author: Chocolate main people knife I go outside wearing my red cap and blacks cross to the other side of the street as I walk by. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766677) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:59 PM Author: cerise razzle-dazzle rehab boltzmann (Jussie Smollett) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766791) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:02 AM Author: Embarrassed to the bone school cafeteria (faggot Empire nigger) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769389) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:20 AM Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769411) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 3:01 PM Author: aphrodisiac cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43772589) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:15 AM Author: bateful mahogany athletic conference trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796393) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:44 PM Author: Bearded rigpig "The irony is that some of the factors that contribute to ticketing disparities, such as wider streets and lack of sidewalks in low-income communities of color, also make those neighborhoods more dangerous for pedestrians, cyclists and even motorists. According to a 2017 city report, Black Chicagoans are killed in traffic crashes at twice the rate of white residents."
They blame wider streets or something. |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: curious henna den lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766697) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:15 PM Author: territorial ticket booth blood rage Funny that what they said actually is a justification for why being a shitty driver in a black neighborhood is more dangerous, and not a cause of driving like shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766886) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:33 PM Author: Twisted garnet halford whorehouse that's not irony (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767579) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:48 PM Author: Thriller offensive mad cow disease locale oh come on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767632) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:16 AM Author: bateful mahogany athletic conference trust fund new racist dogwhistle unlocked: Narrow streets save lives! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796395) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:09 AM Author: milky elastic band If the streets were narrower they'd be complaining that the narrow streets are causing black traffic accidents and fatalities at an increased rate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796856) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:54 PM Author: submissive cream gaming laptop Holy shit this is parody. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865629) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:44 PM Author: dead fortuitous meteor First AI, now traffic cameras. I think technology in general might be racist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766684) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: cerise razzle-dazzle rehab boltzmann XO Ted was right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766797) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:45 PM Author: Startled glittery gunner such a sinister system designed to keep black bodies down! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766692) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: startling chapel juggernaut Here are the key facts:
- Both red-light and speed cameras are distributed roughly evenly among the city’s Black, Latino and white neighborhoods.
- A ProPublica analysis of millions of citations found that households in majority Black and Hispanic ZIP codes received tickets at around twice the rate of those in white areas between 2015 and 2019.
- According to a 2017 city report, Black Chicagoans are killed in traffic crashes at twice the rate of white residents. |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:56 PM Author: Lascivious wild tanning salon fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766767) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:22 PM Author: dull duck-like menage macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766909) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:32 PM Author: kink-friendly step-uncle's house legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766934) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:50 PM Author: Bearded rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767023) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:21 AM Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Potus Is it possible that worse drivers are more likely to die in auto accidents than safer drivers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769415) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:17 AM Author: bateful mahogany athletic conference trust fund Actuallly, white people (who are very racist) are more likely to drive bigger trucks and vans (because they're bad for the environment) and therefore suffer less physical harm when plowing into minorities who are packed into subcompacts like clowns (this is because of racism as well) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796396) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: marvelous crackhouse lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766701) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: apoplectic range LOL at writing some 5,000 word long-piece article and this is your smoking gun:
Between 2015 and 2019, some 3.1 million camera tickets went to Chicago residents. The highest share, or about 38%, of those tickets went to motorists from majority-Black ZIP codes. By comparison, those ZIP codes account for 27% of households.
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:50 PM Author: flatulent base lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766736) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:08 PM Author: 180 buff lay A racism was performed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766853) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:47 PM Author: iridescent mad-dog skullcap church building The UIC researchers also found that red-light cameras in areas where there were high rates of violent crime issued more tickets. “Perhaps people drive differently in those areas,” Tilahun said. “They might rush through intersections because they feel unsafe.”
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:55 PM Author: boyish smoky spot Mental illness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766761) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:29 PM Author: floppy double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767567) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:03 PM Author: Bonkers parlour Nothing safer than blowing a red light at 38 MPH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766815) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:22 AM Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Potus Actual LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769417) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:44 PM Author: High-end Spectacular Station Old Irish Cottage Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767620) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 5:34 PM Author: Bearded rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43779565) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:50 PM Author: jade cruise ship private investor So blacks are more violent?
Libs want it both ways as usual
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:48 PM Author: Razzmatazz National “ The coronavirus pandemic widened the ticketing disparities. Black and Latino workers have been far less likely than others to have jobs that allow them to work remotely, forcing them into their vehicles more often.”
Why is this the sort of disparity that matters for determining whether a law enforcement strategy should be maintained? |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:49 PM Author: dead fortuitous meteor You're asking racist questions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766728) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:35 PM Author: grizzly contagious orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43778209) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:50 PM Author: apoplectic range It's also bullshit!
I'm white and WFH and have gotten $$$ in parking tickets because I don't want to leave my home to feed the parking meter and end up getting Covid from someone. Where is my article??? |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:06 AM Author: Embarrassed to the bone school cafeteria You park your car at a parking meter when you're at home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769394) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:49 PM Author: mentally impaired vengeful center wrinkle tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766731) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:52 PM Author: umber corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766744) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:55 PM Author: mint church i'll go with this if that's what it takes to get rid of these cameras (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766762) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: silver mischievous stead ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766779) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: marvelous crackhouse (brown body) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766783) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 7:53 PM Author: silver mischievous stead ceo (carless loser) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767999) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: cerise razzle-dazzle rehab boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766803) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:56 PM Author: boyish smoky spot Comical (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766769) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 3:57 PM Author: boyish smoky spot The actual reason? Blacks and Hispanics have lower IQs on average than whites or Asians, which results in dumber, more impulsive decision making like choosing to speed. It has nothing to do with racism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766774) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:37 PM Author: floppy double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767595) |
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Date: January 12th, 2022 2:58 AM Author: Olive Heady Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43769472) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: overrated self-absorbed stag film party of the first part and more murders are occurring in those black areas too, that road design must really fuck with people's brains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766801) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:06 PM Author: effete scarlet reading party WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE SCIENCE-MINDED LIBS, COME ITT NOW MOTHERFUCKER SO I CAN CURB STOMP YOUR FAGGOT FACE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766838) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:51 PM Author: big mother set Science-minded lib here. Don’t curb stomp me bc you guys are right about this one. Libs sometimes advocate silly positions, but so do shitcons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865619) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:10 PM Author: Free-loading Mediation The UIC researchers also found that red-light cameras in areas where there were high rates of violent crime issued more tickets. “Perhaps people drive differently in those areas,” Tilahun said. “They might rush through intersections because they feel unsafe.”
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:12 PM Author: iridescent mad-dog skullcap church building perfectly plausible in my view.
https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?5621-Red-light-No-problem
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskLEO/comments/2rzsdz/are_there_any_neighborhoods_youll_forgive_someone/ |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:53 PM Author: floppy double fault LJL at that AskLEO subreddit. JFC people are dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767660) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:07 AM Author: Bearded rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796379) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:15 PM Author: Trip at-the-ready patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766883) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:22 PM Author: red theater stage I've taken the surface streets from Midway to the northern part of the city. I was definitely the only person stopping at red lights when I was driving through West Garfield Park. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767521) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: territorial ticket booth blood rage Has anyone here ever driven through a black neighborhood? It’s fucking chaos. People driving the wrong way down the street. Pedestrians have no regard for cars. Cars have no regard for street lights. It’s like Cairo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43766898) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:27 PM Author: Fragrant National Security Agency It’s unbelievable how shitty the driving is and how little people care about basic safety in the street. I saw this chick arguing with her bf once and she ran out into the street in front of a speeding car. Her body went flying into the street after the impact but she was completely unharmed. She immediately started barking at the guy again as if nothing happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767553) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:47 PM Author: Trip at-the-ready patrolman 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767626) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:54 PM Author: floppy double fault 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767671) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 11:38 AM Author: territorial ticket booth blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43777027) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 8:30 PM Author: primrose motley market scourge upon the earth No, 95% of whites never have and can’t even fathom what you are referring to. You might as well be describing the bottom of the sea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43768155) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 8:43 PM Author: Pale Field Background Story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43768219) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:37 PM Author: grizzly contagious orchestra pit i've watched plenty of Charliebo vids on yootoob. I've seen places where 50+ people are out partying on a side street. they really take their time getting out of the way of a moving vehicle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43778230) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:49 PM Author: Thriller offensive mad cow disease locale Wet streets cause rain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767633) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 7:56 PM Author: Talented Pearly Temple Sound Barrier racist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43768014) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:55 PM Author: floppy double fault They have such little value for human life that they should be considered a different species. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767676) |
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Date: January 11th, 2022 6:58 PM Author: multi-colored mustard therapy *shoots you in torso after you give me money from the cash register* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43767688) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:45 PM Author: grizzly contagious orchestra pit *the gun went off by itself, officer* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43778299) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: Pale Field Background Story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43779075) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:18 PM Author: Bearded rigpig I've been getting angrier the more I think about this story.
Urbanists/ban car types have made it their life's goal to demonize car owners. They blame them for every city's ills, for climate change, accuse them of being selfish assholes.
But when confronted with a group of people who really are the worst (people who consistently speed and run red lights) they have to perform logical gymnastics to do defend them because they happen to be from a specific race. Outrageous. |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 2:33 PM Author: boyish smoky spot blacks have no agency and any ills they experience in life are due to systemic racism and oppression by whites hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43778191) |
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Date: January 13th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: Pale Field Background Story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43779069) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 1:09 AM Author: Startled glittery gunner racist robots from the future are the real enemy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796381) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:38 AM Author: sable international law enforcement agency Someone should text these whores this thread
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Date: January 17th, 2022 7:38 AM Author: Olive Heady Death Wish Even objective reality is racist. Weird! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43796879) |
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Date: January 17th, 2022 8:53 AM Author: Khaki area tank Liberal arts education (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43797042) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 8:47 PM Author: odious azure weed whacker resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865245) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:31 PM Author: odious azure weed whacker resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865500) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:38 PM Author: jade cruise ship private investor Journalists are truly the #EnemyOfThePeople and increasingly a threat to democracy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865536) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:45 PM Author: jade cruise ship private investor https://mobile.twitter.com/common_sensedoc/status/1484694854710042628
M.deVere Williams MD @common_sensedoc This is an easy one, Chicago. Change your policies. NOW. Even if you didn’t intend a race-specific outcome, that’s what happened. So stop. Now. Redesign the system so it’s equitable or dismantle it. Now. |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:46 PM Author: jade cruise ship private investor Thought this was flame until I saw his twitter bio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865595) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:56 PM Author: big mother set Easy fix: send a citation to 18% of white households. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865643) |
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Date: January 28th, 2022 9:58 PM Author: submissive cream gaming laptop The misuse of the word equitable has been quite a feat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43865649) |
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Date: February 4th, 2022 12:51 PM Author: Bearded rigpig https://twitter.com/JoeGiacalone/status/1489589286752108553 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5005195&forum_id=2#43905894) |