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Ex-roommate saga: how to send him the demand letter?
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:24 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested I put together a spreadsheet and - giving him some breaks - he owes me $7,520. I plan to sue him in Small Claims and have gathered evidence proving the total number (sublease plus various Facebook messages where he acknowledged how much he owes). But I have to do this first:
'Send a formal demand letter to the person you have a dispute with (also known as the “defendant” after you sue them). This means you should write a letter to the person, state how much money they owe you and why, and send it to them in writing, ideally priority mail with tracking. This is important even if you’ve already talked to them and they’ve refused to pay you the money, because when you go to court, you will tell the judge that you tried to ask for what you are owed and resolve it outside the court.'
I've prepared an adapted version of a letter generated by https://www.courts.ca.gov/11145.htm but I don't have his current address. I do know his workplace (it's 3 blocks away from my apartment). Should I deliver it in person? Is email OK? Do I have to hire someone to find his new address? |
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Date: February 6th, 2022 10:50 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle Nowag Headpube you aren’t getting shit
have fun staying cucked |
Date: February 5th, 2022 7:33 PM Author: arousing library u should just earn the money back on seekingarrangment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914450) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:35 PM Author: Misanthropic candlestick maker She quoted me a $400 rate when I visit in two weeks. Should I go for it, hoss? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914461) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:37 PM Author: arousing library 100% although she should be charging way more for short term stuff that's basically escorting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914470) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:40 PM Author: Misanthropic candlestick maker I'm sure she's giving me a poaster discount. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914493) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:50 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested lmfao arkan's gonna go crazy about this subthread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914546) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:51 PM Author: Misanthropic candlestick maker Just imagine the threads after we meet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914549) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:46 PM Author: electric clear legal warrant arkan = fml? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43939925) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:34 PM Author: Trip Hairy Legs School tell him you'll suck him off and call it even (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914454) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:40 PM Author: Domesticated Crackhouse Water Buffalo I don't know whether there's a case, rule, or statute that requires a particular form of delivery.
If not, I'd use a reasonable method (or methods) calculated to provide actual notice.
You could text images of the letter, DM him, send email, whatever. Do all of them if you want. |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:46 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Thanks!
I've sent him FB and IG messages (no formal demands with the total, but like, "pls pay me") that are still on unread. :/ Last he read my messages or replied to anything was Nov 22. I'll try sending screencaps (letter and spreadsheet) on those platforms, but I'm not optimistic about him opening them.
I'll also email. |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:52 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Actually, zoomer bf says he can send the images on insta. He doesn't know the guy at all. Would that work, just having a stranger send them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914556) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:58 PM Author: Big rigpig church building why don't you just send certified mail? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914606) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:01 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested I don't have his current address. I have his workplace unless he's gotten fired in the past 2mo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914631) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:07 PM Author: Big rigpig church building surely you know someone you can get his address from
imo serving someone at work is a super bitchy move unless you have absolutely no other option |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:09 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Nah, our only mutual friend is our other roommate and he doesn't have his address.
I guess I have a guy on insta who's good friends with him but idk if he'd sell him out lol
Idc about bitchy now I want my $7K |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:18 PM Author: Big rigpig church building it's personally embarrassing to get served at work. which is the primary reason people do it. i think it's a low blow move. but like i said, if there's no other option it is what it is.
if i were you i'd message the dude on insta and say "i need to serve X with a demand for the rent he owes me. do you have his current address? my only other option is to serve him at work, but i don't want to embarrass him" |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:20 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested JUST sent the guy: "hey [friend]! do you have [asshole]'s current address? i have some important mail for him and he hasn't answered my texts since november. i was hoping to just mail it to him" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914737) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:23 PM Author: boyish menage mood lol this is like an iq test (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914756) |
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Date: February 6th, 2022 12:56 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested So I didn't get the chance to reply to this earlier. But basically: I'm tired of giving him more and more chances and trying to stay friends, especially with all the drama he introduced that was unrelated to the money. He was the most egomaniacal person I've ever met and he used the shit out of me. OH YEAH another thing is that he helped himself to my weed when I was out of the house... basically just a selfish dick all around.
I'm just so fucking done with him and have so much (justified IME) resentment built up that I WANT this experience to be as difficult as possible for him. The stuff I've been poasting about distraining his electronics is KINDA flame but something I really fantasize about. And in the same way, I would fucking LOVE to humiliate him at work. 😤😤 |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:54 PM Author: titillating set Send certified mail demand to wherever you'll serve the lawsuit at (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914570) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 7:54 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Planning to serve him at work. So mail it there?
edit: Technically I don't know for sure whether he still works there... |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:00 PM Author: Big rigpig church building get cslg to do this pro bono for the memes. please.
certified mail is the go to route if actual service is not required. most small claims courts have some information packet for pro se litigants that will include everything you need. |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:06 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested lol I asked him in a thread if he could help me but he never replied :(
But yeah see above, I don't have ex-roommate's address, just his workplace (as of Nov). |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:08 PM Author: Big rigpig church building call or email him! didn't he go see you live once or something? i thought you knew each other irl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914677) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:10 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested He wasn't able to make the show. I guess I could email but I'd rather handle it myself for now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914692) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:14 PM Author: Big rigpig church building it would just be hilarious to cslg send him an over the top demand letter with his firm letterhead. this isn't anything you can't handle for yourself. it would mostly just be funny and for bort content. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914708) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:19 PM Author: Useless abnormal goal in life What would he even say though? You reneged on oral contracts, judge let me garnish your 20k job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914731) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:22 PM Author: Big rigpig church building it's a demand letter and small claims court. the law barely applies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914751) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:24 PM Author: Useless abnormal goal in life If he's really that poor, do you think they'll actually demand payment? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914758) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:27 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested He got a fairly high-paying bartender job RIGHT before he moved out. Hopefully the court will come up with some plan of garnishing his wages? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914774) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:29 PM Author: Useless abnormal goal in life I'm not a lawyer but this might be the bottleneck, how you actually get money back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914790) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:33 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Well, I think the most likely outcome is that once he gets sued, he'll find a way to come up with the money (probably his parents).
But also, in my last thread I found out I could literally sell his belongings, if nothing else: https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5022418&forum_id=2#43894316
I would fucking LOVE to distrain his Xbox out of spite ahhhhhhhhhh |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:37 PM Author: Big rigpig church building getting the money is always the hardest part in shitlaw, i've heard. most people are judgment proof and not worth the effort. tbtp is going to get a piece of paper saying dude owes her $7k. actually getting it is hard.
i don't think most courts will automatically garnish his wages with the judgment. i think you have to take the judgment somewhere else and get the garnishment if he doesn't pay. this is an area i've only looked at minimally so idk, and every jx is going to have their own shit so i have no idea what it's like in cali. but, yeah, actually getting paid is going to be the hardest part. getting the judgment will be simple. |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:37 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested I'm like 98% sure his parents have $$$ thankfully (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914852) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:44 PM Author: Big rigpig church building great odds he doesn't show up to court and you get a default judgment. and great odds he ignores your attempts to collect. and great odds if you do garnish his wages he'll just go to a different bar, perhaps working under the table. if you do garnish what will they take, like $20 a pay period?
tons of people go into collection even if they have family that can pay for it. most of them are content to be closet deadbeats rather than reveal shit to family. depends on the person and you're the only one that knows him, though. |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:10 PM Author: Domesticated Crackhouse Water Buffalo Record the judgment (or whatever the state's process is) so that it attaches to future real estate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915066) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:08 PM Author: Domesticated Crackhouse Water Buffalo I love collecting judgments. Grind those fuckers down with garnishments and debtor's exams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915056) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:12 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested ... u in cali? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915074) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 11:01 PM Author: Domesticated Crackhouse Water Buffalo Nope. Arizona. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915727) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:14 PM Author: Useless abnormal goal in life Subscribed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914710) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:16 PM Author: Pea-brained vivacious sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914714) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:37 PM Author: wonderful garrison This is going to be 180. You're unlikely to recover anything, so I fully support making this as painful as possible on him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914850) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:38 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested I'm pretty sure his parents have money - they own multiple properties and live in Palm Springs - so hopefully he'll go crying to them now that there's an actual threat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914858) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:41 PM Author: wonderful garrison that would actually be a great outcome.
if you do determine that he works where you think he works, may i suggest that you use the sheriff to serve him with court papers (assuming that's permitted). that will make a bigger splash than some stoner kid working for a process server. |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:49 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Thank you! Honestly I'm not stressing about serving him once I've filed; pretty sure I can have someone (sheriff or zoomer bf) do it at his workplace. I'm just worried about this first step of demanding the money before I take it to court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914913) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:38 PM Author: multi-colored toaster Unless you are in Minnesota or Louisiana, you can actually send it to your own address, since he is an ex-roommate and it is his last known address. You can then simultaneously send him a demand letter via Instagram. If he doesn’t show up at small claims court, you can demonstrate that you attempted to provide him with a physical copy of the demand letter and you will get a default judgement in your favor. He can still appeal, but by then it’s your money to lose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914855) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:41 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Oh shit that's fucking awesome. I'm in CA. It does feel a little cheap, though, and I already know he didn't set up a forwarding address so I don't know if I can claim I made a good-faith effort...? So maybe I can do that AND insta AND mail it to his employer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43914871) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:52 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested OK so I actually have a question about the letter itself. I just realized the thing the site generated doesn't quite make sense: https://imgur.com/a/N5FvoQK
First I say we can come up with a payment plan and to contact me by Feb 21; then I say I expect the money by Feb 21. Should I make the second date later, second number smaller, or re-word that part somehow? |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 8:59 PM Author: Big rigpig church building just delete the sentence starting with "i am agreeable to..."
again, not a calimo, but i sincerely doubt that specifying you would accept a payment plan is requirement in a demand letter. |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:03 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Thanks! So I'll just say that he needs to pay me all of the money at once and we'll go to court if he doesn't. Is he allowed to say like, "that's unrealistic"? I mean technically he's had months and months to pay me so it's not that sudden. I could make it Feb 28 instead of Feb 21... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915019) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:40 PM Author: Big rigpig church building no, it's not unrealistic or illegal to demand past due money you are owed. afaik no jx requires a debtee to offer a payment plan or anything like that. sounds like cali requires you to make a demand before proceeding with litigation. that doesn't require you to settle for anything beyond FULL PAYMENT RIGHT NOW like you're owed. you can choose to settle for less or do a payment plan, but i doubt you're legally required to.
hate to keep making this disclaimer but i feel compelled to: not a calimo and i know next to nothing about shitlaw. |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:49 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Thank!! I sent the letter electronically, gonna mail to his workplace and my address on Monday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915326) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:00 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested How about:
"Based on the foregoing, I expect payment in the amount of $7,520.00 made payable to me, [address] no later than February 21, 2022. [...] If the full sum of payment is not received by that date, I expect to have agreed to a payment plan (in writing) resulting in the debt fully paid by May 31, 2022. If you decide to ignore this demand for payment, I will further pursue all of its legal remedies without further notice to you. This letter serves as evidence that I have attempted to resolve this matter informally. " |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:03 PM Author: boyish menage mood you need to include a date for agreement of the payment plan if you want to include that, otherwise youre delaying everything until may 31 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915021) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:05 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Got it. Yeah, I don't want him to be able to keep stretching this out. Thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915039) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:04 PM Author: Big rigpig church building you're overthinking this. most small claims demand letters are written in crayon and say: "darnell owe me $325 dollar" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915028) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:05 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested LOL fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915040) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:08 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested edit: nvm I think this is good enough. Overthinking blah blah blah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915055) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:32 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested OK so right now I'm going to email him the letter and send an image of it on instagram and over text (though he didn't have a mobile plan when he moved out so who knows if he does now).
Then, on Monday, I'm going to mail hard copies of the letter to my address (last known address) and to his workplace via priority, certified mail.
The letter demands the payment in full by Feb 28, 2022.
Thank you guys! |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 9:49 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested DONE with the electronic stuff. Now we wait... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915331) |
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Date: February 5th, 2022 11:15 PM Author: aqua narrow-minded cuck messiness 180 plz keep us updated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43915868) |
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Date: February 6th, 2022 12:32 AM Author: nofapping scarlet ratface just send her 20 btc you simp nowag kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43916225) |
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Date: February 6th, 2022 10:40 AM Author: aqua narrow-minded cuck messiness no thx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43917300) |
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Date: February 6th, 2022 3:30 PM Author: glittery maize factory reset button state Good luck getting any rent money in LA of all places lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43918766) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:37 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested OK so he wrote back saying he could pay me $2K tomorrow. Since he acknowledged receipt of the email, can I skip the step of mailing him the letter?
https://i.imgur.com/oxJIwMk.jpg
How would you guys proceed? I'm thinking of proposing a payment plan of $2500/mo (after he sends me the $2K) and having him sign something agreeing to it. And then we can go to court if he doesn't follow through. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:39 PM Author: arousing library take the $2k and call it good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924091) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:41 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested nah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924105) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:45 PM Author: nofapping scarlet ratface lol cr the friendliness here is an acknowledgement that he's fucked (the delay in response probably came from confirming), not some plea for genuine friendship (he's a scumbag who ripped you off and disrespected you all along the way) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924143) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:57 PM Author: aqua narrow-minded cuck messiness cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43925393) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:43 PM Author: emerald home boltzmann I'd take the $2k and then send a demand letter to his home address by certified mail and then sue him for the balance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924121) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:52 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested I'm thinking of saying like, "sure send me the $2K and then we can talk about what to do with the balance"
I would say it seems cheap to turn right back around and sue him, but he even said in his messages that he understands if I need to take him to court. He definitely has a history of pretending to be cooperative and apologetic as a manipulation tactic and then turning around and not following through with shit. For once I might actually call his bluff. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:54 PM Author: nofapping scarlet ratface all for you getting what's owed, but also it's totally appropriate that you have to deal with scumbags like this lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924205) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:15 PM Author: emerald home boltzmann get as much of your money back as you can now, and don't agree to waive or release anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924373) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:46 PM Author: Big rigpig church building i'd get him on the payment plan and try to avoid court if possible. take the $2k and make sure he keeps paying. if he stops paying or communicating with you then send a new demand letter and proceed to court. i would assume him acknowledging this and then actually paying you would be sufficient for a judge to find that you sent a demand letter. and sending a new one if you wind up having to go to court later would seal the deal.
doubt this dude is going to be able to afford $2.5k a month considering he's only managed to save $2k for you since nov. ask what he can afford and take it if it's reasonable. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:00 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Makes sense as an overall strat but I don't know about taking it slow. It'll stretch out forever. He'll miss a payment and come to me begging for more time and he'll guilt me until I cave. And he'll do it again and again. I really think his parents have the money and that he can do the $2.5K if he NEEDS to.
"considering he's only managed to save $2k for you since nov"
He's only BOTHERED to save $2K for me. When he lived with me he was ordering Postmates for every meal while failing to follow through on our plan of $200 per paycheck. He was never actually trying. Maybe he is now, and I know $2500 is a lot even if he does prioritize paying me, but like, that's his problem. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:30 PM Author: Big rigpig church building you're in the debt collection business now bruv. and even they don't take people to court if the person is paying their debts. every debt collector is frustrated to see their debtors frivolous spending instead of making paying off their debt a priority.
the threat of taking him to court is the best leverage you have right now. if you actually take him there and get a judgment he might just be like "fuck it, let her try and collect it". if i were you i'd take what i can get and try to keep him happy and paying. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:22 PM Author: House-broken Mind-boggling Theater This is cr but she should get him to commit to payment plan with firm dates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924429) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:31 PM Author: Big rigpig church building absolutely, the payment plan should def had firm dates and some sort of signed commitment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924494) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:14 PM Author: boyish menage mood take the 2k, get him to acknowledge the 5.5K balance and agree a payment plan in writing, with a hard date for the full balance to be paid. keep it out of court if you can, but the documentation will help if you need to escalate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924362) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:15 PM Author: emerald home boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924378) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:21 PM Author: provocative spot Get the 2k first, then make the payment plan a formal contract. Include 10% interest if he fails to pay any payment. Mention its governed by CA law. Just put in an attorneys fee clause for the fun of it so if you need to you can hire an attorney and have him pay the fees.
Once you have the signed contract if he stops paying you can just take him to small claims, will be easier. You probably also put in the contract that you have a lien on his wages but that is more complicated, you'd have to have some sort of judgment by the court or something. Not sure.. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:27 PM Author: Aquamarine institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924470) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:32 PM Author: Big rigpig church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924501) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:24 PM Author: Useless abnormal goal in life 180 advice for xo 2022 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43924854) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:09 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Thank! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43925089) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:50 PM Author: Domesticated Crackhouse Water Buffalo TT's idea of converting a fuzzier rent claim into a solid breach-of-settlement claim is a good one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43925344) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 2:57 AM Author: Mauve Fiercely-loyal Juggernaut KIKE KIKE KIKE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43935371) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 2:41 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Apparently he didn't have time to cash his checks today and will get the $2K to me on Thursday
Jfc |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 9:33 AM Author: Big rigpig church building lmfao welcome to the world of collecting unsecured debt. debt buyers pay between 5% to 15% for unsecured debt. meaning, if you tried to sell this debt to a debt collector, they would value it about $750. you're finding out why. it's going to be very hard to get blood from a stone.
have fun! |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 9:38 AM Author: emerald home boltzmann lol he will never pay you. Welcome to the world of deadbeats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43935950) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 9:52 AM Author: Trip Hairy Legs School No worries, I'm sure you'll get your money Thursday! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43936023) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 9:55 AM Author: emerald home boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43936053) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 10:51 AM Author: Big rigpig church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43936447) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 1:50 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43937529) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 6:38 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested https://imgur.com/a/f8lxjHf
"Sorry can't get you your 2 grand when I promised I would, but come to my party!" SMDH |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 6:59 PM Author: Trip Hairy Legs School You voted for this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43939654) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 6:59 PM Author: nofapping scarlet ratface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43939658) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:10 PM Author: wonderful garrison you should move in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43939719) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:13 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested rofl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43939730) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:20 PM Author: Big rigpig church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43939761) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:21 PM Author: Big rigpig church building lmfao how are you even planning on responding to this?
this is the type of mentality that so many deadbeats have. "oh you'll get your money i gotchu just a little tight right now. btw just copped a PS5 you wanna hop on and play some shit sometime?"
like, i don't even think they realize how infuriating their behavior is sometimes. |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:23 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested I have literally no idea how to respond!! I think I'll just "♥️" the message and see what happens Thursday.
I can also ask for the address closer to then, even if I don't plan on going, so I'll know where to serve him... |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:42 PM Author: Big rigpig church building isn't this the same weak bullshit that allowed him to not pay you rent for like 11 months and leave you with the bill? you just sent him a formal demand letter about how you're talking him to court. he was like "haha oh wow ok i'll pay". then says "oops actually i'm a little short, but how about you come to this party i'm totally spending money on?".
good idea about getting his address but after that need to keep hammering him about SOLID DATES and remind him YOU WILL FILE IF HE DOESN'T MEET THE DEADLINE. he's just going to walk all over you again and your first instinct about "♥️" leads me to believe you're going to buy his deadbeat bullshit and not have the backbone to collect. |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:44 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Nah I'm definitely gonna follow through and collect. I just don't know how to interact with him while in debt purgatory.
I'll remind him tonight and tomorrow morning to get me the $2,000. |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:31 PM Author: Big rigpig church building "yeah i can probably swing buy, what's your address?"
"cool! it's 123 deadbeat lane."
"great! maybe i'll see you there. btw, can you have me a firm date when i can get the 2k?"
"yeah how about 2/14?"
"ok, awesome! and i don't want to make this ugly or anything, but if it's delayed again i'm filing on 2/15. after you get me the $2k we can work out a payment plan for the remainder. hope to see you at your party, i bet it'll be a blast! ❤️❤️❤️" |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:33 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested oOoOo ty!! lol at 123 Deadbeat Lane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43940217) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:36 PM Author: Big rigpig church building good luck.
you've gotta staddle the line between being friendly enough he doesn't just say fuck it but stern enough that he keeps paying. he fucked you for 11 months and probably thinks he can do it again. i think it's appropriate for specific ultimatums. like, "hey i don't want to be a bitch but considering how long this has gone on i can't just keep extending and hounding you for this. after we set the deadlines if you don't pay i don't have any choice but to file because i can't keep hounding you. but if you do we can still be super cool best friends! see you at your party (maybe) ❤️❤️❤️" |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 4:23 AM Author: Domesticated Crackhouse Water Buffalo Some Calimo lolyer needs to buy the claim at a discount and take the bum down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43949312) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:10 PM Author: multi-colored toaster Tell him you’ll consider coming and ask for his home address. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43940070) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:13 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Yeah I wanna get the address before he disappears again. How can I ask that and sound natural? What if I send:
"that sounds awesome, hope i can make it! what's your new address? and don't forget to deposit & send the $2000 tomorrow!" |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:34 PM Author: multi-colored toaster You’re asking someone way too autistic to answer this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43940227) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 7:35 PM Author: arousing library seekingarrangement would be a better ROI than pursuing this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43939856) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:14 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested I'd have to meet like 19 guys!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43940104) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:15 PM Author: nofapping scarlet ratface isnt that a normal month for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43940113) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:58 PM Author: arousing library i don't see the downside here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43940412) |
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Date: February 9th, 2022 8:59 PM Author: nofapping scarlet ratface give it a rest you filthy kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43940415) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 12:10 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Yoooo guys I got my money!
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Haha just kidding. This morning he asked if he could swing by today to pick up his mail, and I wrote back: "yay! please deposit the checks first since you have time. i am still WFH, should be home all day"
Left on unread. |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 1:22 AM Author: Aquamarine institution “Give me your new address and I will forward them!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43949054) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 1:25 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested kk I sent basically that. Thanks! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43949063) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 1:35 AM Author: Aquamarine institution If he doesn’t give it to you, you know for sure he is avoiding being served. So you have to crank it up a notch, write a letter of demand that meets the CA small claims requirements, and serve the letter on him formally in a way that meets the CA service requirements. I don’t know the CA specifics for those things, but it may involve you giving it to him in person when he comes for his mail: “Hey Bob, great to see you, here’s another letter for you, BAM you’ve been served”. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43949098) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 1:38 AM Author: Aquamarine institution Nope, in CA it can’t be you, because it can’t be a party to the action https://www.courts.ca.gov/selfhelp-serving.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en It can be a friend though |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 2:45 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Yeah, I sent him this over the weekend: https://i.imgur.com/HFB3Z12.png
He wrote back on Monday saying that he could get me $2,000 the next day. I was like, "OK and then we'll talk about the remaining balance afterward." He's been making excuses and still hasn't sent it.
But at the VERY least, the letter ensures that I can sue him if I haven't gotten it by the 28th. |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 3:02 AM Author: nofapping scarlet ratface you 100% deserve this treatment and it makes me lmao
the classic degenerate fuckface runaround |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 1:40 AM Author: nofapping scarlet ratface The world really is fair in some funny ways. You once betrayed a landlord, and now some retarded gay degenerate is running circles around you with like ten grand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43949105) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 4:05 PM Author: judgmental charismatic chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43952054) |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 5:27 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested "Hey yea go ahead and forward those to me if you can. My addy is [address]. Hey I know I’ve owed you money for a little while now but I was wondering if it’d be cool to give me a little more time? I was wondering if you can extend it to sometime in March or April like originally in a previous message. Long story short, [last employer] checks bounced and I’ve been trying to borrow money from friends and so far nothing. I can give you what I have right now but my bday is like right around the corner and I wanted something to work with. What do you think? Can I maybe buy more time with $500?"
well at least i got an address... |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 6:40 PM Author: wonderful garrison Lol. I love these people. They're all the same. Little rats scrambling just to try and make it til tomorrow so they can do it all again.
Not that I condone violence, but there's something to the concept of people having to think twice about being scum because they fear the possibility of getting the shit kicked out of them. |
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Date: February 11th, 2022 7:14 PM Author: aqua narrow-minded cuck messiness don't bend, don't appear agreeable. every time he senses weakness, he's going to try to postpone the inevitable.
it's business from here on out. fuck this guy's birthday. |
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Date: February 14th, 2022 3:43 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested 2/14/22: no movement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43966793) |
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Date: February 14th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: Useless abnormal goal in life Preview: 3/14: no movement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43966889) |
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Date: February 14th, 2022 4:02 PM Author: alcoholic mexican antidepressant drug spoiler alert! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43966923) |
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Date: February 14th, 2022 4:03 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Nah, by then I'll at least have served him. My demand letter says he has til the 28th before I sue.
Your general point is still valid ofc. There will be no movement of cash |
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Date: February 14th, 2022 4:05 PM Author: Useless abnormal goal in life Good luck man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5025004&forum_id=2#43966947) |
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Date: February 14th, 2022 4:06 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy clown idea he suggested Thank
Can't wait to sell his Xbox |