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I suspect most American slave owners treated slaves well

And I further suspect that the narrative pushed in schools t...
Fear-inspiring Trump Supporter Yarmulke
  08/29/24
Jews actually controlled the slave trade. They owned the boa...
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Dun hominid
  08/30/24
any names of some of these historical figures, or are they l...
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Once I'm done with my morning shit, I'll find the evidence f...
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Long shit!
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Prudent Betty
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Elihu Yale et al
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Isle of Man public school teachers need to include this in t...
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I guess if you ignore the fact that they were, ya know, ensl...
Spruce Supple Laser Beams Parlour
  08/29/24
That’s such a lib answer
Soul-stirring Abode
  08/30/24
It's a semantic argument.
Contagious yapping base codepig
  08/30/24
slave owners should be thought of as shitty not because of h...
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Arousing prole
  08/29/24
A great bargain for you, my friend!
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It was also too goddamn hot for whites to work in that clima...
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It was certainly in a slave owner's interest not to damage h...
Histrionic Frisky Lay Pozpig
  08/29/24
The Rednick Manifesto is a must-read.
drunken church building private investor
  08/29/24
my ancestors' slaves stuck around after the war, we were goo...
lilac persian
  08/30/24
The government interviewed a bunch of ex slaves in the early...
Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth
  08/30/24
u generally treat ur property well, esp when u paid a lot fo...
Jet mexican
  08/30/24
Slavery basically sounds like a lib utopia. free housing, f...
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Dun hominid
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holy furk
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cr except libs don't want "maximum productivity"
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yes they do. why do you think they pushed the idea that all ...
galvanic walnut forum karate
  08/30/24
it much harder to amke somoene willing to do that rather tha...
Elite Depressive National Security Agency
  08/30/24
The ruling class did that to uproot the people and accustom ...
Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth
  08/30/24
Why do they care about ceaseless change?
galvanic walnut forum karate
  08/30/24
Why do communists want to erase the family and rewrite human...
Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth
  08/30/24
Alternatively, it makes the ruling class more rich
galvanic walnut forum karate
  08/30/24
That's a tertiary side effect The goal is to secure their...
Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth
  08/30/24
Marx said the pussy would be free. Abolition of the family w...
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+ systematized pounding out of white women by black men with...
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Libs would let them own the cotton they picked. They wouldn'...
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Libs would have some complex system whereby the slaves "...
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Yeah, but it's NOT OK unless the slave masters are Jews.
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Yeah seems pretty obvious
Amber Judgmental Gaping
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There are plenty of written accounts and photographs of slav...
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Wow. Yeah. If I know anything about women, it's that they de...
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Except getting pregnant by massa would often get you shipped...
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That’s just selection bias. The most gauche and brutal...
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They were escaping to Indian tribes. The Indians knew what w...
Contagious yapping base codepig
  08/30/24
Bunch of Indian tribes owned slaves bro. https://www.aljazee...
carnelian swashbuckling coffee pot
  08/30/24
Minority of cases is still too many
Iridescent gay wizard
  08/30/24
are not we all slaves today with only a different master?
harsh double fault
  08/30/24
same master. kike finance
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There were multiple historical periods IIRC with respect to ...
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Wasn't there an issue with us needing to generate our own do...
Contagious yapping base codepig
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the more pertinent observation is that black slaves in ameri...
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Farmers treat their machinery like it is made out of gold. A...
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The machinery isn't lazy
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Date: August 29th, 2024 11:48 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Trump Supporter Yarmulke

And I further suspect that the narrative pushed in schools that blacks were dehumanized and abused by their masters was likely true in a vast minority of cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026352)



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Date: August 29th, 2024 11:54 PM
Author: Arousing prole

Jews actually controlled the slave trade. They owned the boats, ran the auctions, and pocketed the profits. Odd how that's never mentioned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026368)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 8:57 AM
Author: Dun hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026998)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Laughsome heaven factory reset button

any names of some of these historical figures, or are they largely scrubbed from the history books?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027230)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 10:11 AM
Author: Arousing prole

Once I'm done with my morning shit, I'll find the evidence for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027239)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 6:15 PM
Author: rough-skinned stead

Long shit!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029386)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:02 PM
Author: Confused corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029991)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:25 PM
Author: Arousing prole

https://i.imgur.com/MDlt5CF.jpeg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030050)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:12 PM
Author: Contagious yapping base codepig

Prudent Betty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030428)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: Zombie-like razzle range

Elihu Yale et al

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030018)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 6:29 PM
Author: Contagious yapping base codepig

Isle of Man public school teachers need to include this in their history lessons to kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029441)



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Date: August 29th, 2024 11:49 PM
Author: hairraiser gold gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026353)



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Date: August 29th, 2024 11:51 PM
Author: Spruce Supple Laser Beams Parlour

I guess if you ignore the fact that they were, ya know, enslaved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026363)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 12:11 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Abode

That’s such a lib answer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026441)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:20 PM
Author: Contagious yapping base codepig

It's a semantic argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030449)



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Date: August 29th, 2024 11:52 PM
Author: Lemon plaza

slave owners should be thought of as shitty not because of how they treated their slaves but because they believed (quite retardedly and greedily) jewish merchants when they showed up with a bunch of africans and told them theyd work really hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026366)



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Date: August 29th, 2024 11:54 PM
Author: Arousing prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026371)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 12:10 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Therapy Rehab

A great bargain for you, my friend!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026438)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:55 AM
Author: stirring boiling water cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027214)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:21 PM
Author: Contagious yapping base codepig

It was also too goddamn hot for whites to work in that climate. They all complained about it. That made them more susceptible to the sales pitch that "these folks are used to it, no problem."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030450)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:40 PM
Author: Light hateful trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030473)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:43 PM
Author: floppy library pocket flask

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030475)



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Date: August 29th, 2024 11:53 PM
Author: Histrionic Frisky Lay Pozpig

It was certainly in a slave owner's interest not to damage his property, which he paid a lot of money for. They were provided free room and board, and got Sundays off. Nevertheless, the work was likely not easy when they had to do it, but most agricultural workers are not working 12+ hour days like lawyers are, and physical discipline was utilized when slaves were lazy or sabotaging things. I think a good comparison is probably Americans held in North Korean prison camps. Check out Kenneth Bae's account: "In the interview, Bae sat in a room next to a door and a radiator. He calmly described his current prison life as eight hours of farm labor – which he had never done before – with a break in the middle of the day and lunch. He was also filmed clearing the fields, wearing black gloves and a hat as a guard stood watch nearby." https://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/03/world/asia/kenneth-bae-korea-interview/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026367)



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Date: August 29th, 2024 11:58 PM
Author: drunken church building private investor

The Rednick Manifesto is a must-read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026388)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 12:12 AM
Author: lilac persian

my ancestors' slaves stuck around after the war, we were good people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026442)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:14 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth

The government interviewed a bunch of ex slaves in the early 1900s and a lot of them said they missed it. Now if you try to read those interviews there’s a big disclaimer on the website.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=24FThxQYCXI&t=1270s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026841)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:20 AM
Author: Jet mexican

u generally treat ur property well, esp when u paid a lot for it which is what each nigga was since they werent cheap i think

and on top of that if u treat them well they will work and not cause as many nigga probs

and some birdshits even pounded the pussies of their nigga slaves, which shld be viewed as being NICE to them, if u were mean to a woman wld u really want to furk her slimpit esp a NIGGA GORILLA look ape bitch?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026844)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:22 AM
Author: galvanic walnut forum karate

Slavery basically sounds like a lib utopia. free housing, free healthcare, free education, guaranteed employment, plenty of community green spaces for kids to play, income equality, housing equality, community policing, deemphasizing the nuclear family in favor of community and maximum productivity. All things libs want to this day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48026846)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 8:59 AM
Author: Dun hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027001)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:55 AM
Author: Jet mexican

holy furk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027210)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Therapy Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027236)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 10:16 AM
Author: Arousing prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027249)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 10:38 AM
Author: passionate stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027356)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 2:16 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth

cr except libs don't want "maximum productivity"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028230)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 2:58 PM
Author: galvanic walnut forum karate

yes they do. why do you think they pushed the idea that all college grads need to move 1000s of miles away from their homes to hellscape cities in order to truly be "successful". no different than a slave being sold away from his family to go to a more prosperous plantation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028510)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 2:59 PM
Author: Elite Depressive National Security Agency

it much harder to amke somoene willing to do that rather than forcefuly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028513)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth

The ruling class did that to uproot the people and accustom them to ceaseless change

If you introduce change to a settled community with strong social bonds rooted in family, history, tradition and active participation in civic life, then you get a lot of resistance

Now we are pliable to arbitrary change, no matter how absurd, and have no solidarity or ability to collectively resist social engineering

The "productivity" angle is post hoc rationalization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028530)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 4:43 PM
Author: galvanic walnut forum karate

Why do they care about ceaseless change?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028942)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 4:47 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth

Why do communists want to erase the family and rewrite human nature through state coercion and environmental determinism?

Tikkun Olam

It’s a satanic religious directive that conveniently dovetails with the political objective of eliminating rival groups or otherwise rendering them powerless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028968)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:13 PM
Author: galvanic walnut forum karate

Alternatively, it makes the ruling class more rich

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030013)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:30 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy ticket booth

That's a tertiary side effect

The goal is to secure their power in perpetuity by rendering white people unable to challenge them ever again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030071)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:21 PM
Author: Contagious yapping base codepig

Marx said the pussy would be free. Abolition of the family was necessary in order to facilitate "community of women." I'm not sure what modern justifications have been put forth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030032)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 2:33 PM
Author: talented death wish station

+ systematized pounding out of white women by black men with large penises

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028358)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:09 PM
Author: concupiscible thirsty site quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029620)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:15 PM
Author: Contagious yapping base codepig

Libs would let them own the cotton they picked. They wouldn't be able to sell it for money but they would be free to weave clothes and make canvas tents and consume oil from the seeds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029640)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: internet-worthy shrine

Libs would have some complex system whereby the slaves "owned" the cotton in name only, but in reality they paid taxes on it and had to keep the rest in a convoluted structure that gave no actual ownership rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029718)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:25 PM
Author: ebony painfully honest field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029679)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:32 PM
Author: internet-worthy shrine

Yeah, but it's NOT OK unless the slave masters are Jews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029712)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:57 PM
Author: Light hateful trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030491)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:56 AM
Author: Amber Judgmental Gaping

Yeah seems pretty obvious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48027217)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: Peach Senate Toilet Seat

There are plenty of written accounts and photographs of slavery that seem brutal. There’s also the fact that the light brown blacks common in the US now are the mixed race result of the master slave rapes which were common at the time. A better line of defense is that life was often brutal for people living in that era. The level of suffering was slightly higher for slaves compared to their peers though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028420)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 2:52 PM
Author: Amber Judgmental Gaping

Wow. Yeah. If I know anything about women, it's that they definitely wouldn't voluntarily sexually submit to the most dominant man in their immediate sociosexual vicinity

Women are NOT like that. These women were cruelly Raped, against their will.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028484)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 4:45 PM
Author: Peach Senate Toilet Seat

Except getting pregnant by massa would often get you shipped out by his wife or worse. And what woman wants tiny pink massa dick instead of BBC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028959)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 6:20 PM
Author: Spectacular den

motherfucker you think some birdshit was more titillating than a bunch of strapping jet black congo niggers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029408)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 6:27 PM
Author: hairraiser gold gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029433)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:09 PM
Author: concupiscible thirsty site quadroon

That’s just selection bias. The most gauche and brutal cases are going to be the ones that attract the most attention. Kind of like today, most marriages are perfectly happy, but reading lib media you’d think every marriage was either polyamorous or abusive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029616)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:29 PM
Author: Contagious yapping base codepig

They were escaping to Indian tribes. The Indians knew what was up. There was even a 16th century slave who got famous as an ambassador to Indians. They would kill whitey on sight by that time but if they saw a black dood they were like whatever.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estevanico

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029698)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:56 PM
Author: carnelian swashbuckling coffee pot

Bunch of Indian tribes owned slaves bro. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/12/27/how-native-americans-adopted-slavery-from-white-settlers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030488)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 3:00 PM
Author: Iridescent gay wizard

Minority of cases is still too many

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48028514)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 7:16 PM
Author: harsh double fault

are not we all slaves today with only a different master?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029646)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 8:55 PM
Author: shaky flesh ratface

same master. kike finance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029984)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:01 PM
Author: dashing sex offender

There were multiple historical periods IIRC with respect to life as a slave in the U.S. Towards the end, life was quite harsh for slaves since southern plantation owners were heavily in debt and resorted to further exploiting slave labor to juice whatever additional margins they could secure to have cash flow to meet interest payments.

One of the reasons the UK lowkey supported the south was that, in addition to keep America divided, they had a vested stake in British banks/merchants getting their money back from southern American cotton growers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48029988)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:13 PM
Author: Contagious yapping base codepig

Wasn't there an issue with us needing to generate our own domestic supply of slaves because Europeans weren't bringing over any new ones after a certain point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030433)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 9:29 PM
Author: vivacious grizzly idiot idea he suggested

the more pertinent observation is that black slaves in america lived way better than blacks in africa, on average, at the time of their slavery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5585665&forum_id=2#48030065)



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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:11 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac address

Farmers treat their machinery like it is made out of gold. All their money is tied up in it and that's how they make their money.

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Date: August 30th, 2024 11:19 PM
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